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Neo
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Are you proud of the fact that Trump and his billionaires are in control of the free world?
blackbelt1961
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Neo
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He put an end to Government lobbyists?? He drained the swamp of Democratic and Republican lobbyists and filled it with the worst kind of lobbyists, his family and the major rich lobbyists! The nepotism and the conflict of interests that he's put in control of the most powerful nation in history is damn right scary. Thank God we're not alone with just them in the world.
GeoFee
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Hi..
I will add a short paragraph following this one. The paragraph is taken from a larger text written more than thirty years ago. My position on this has never diminished. It becomes clearer and clearer as I put off the clutter taken on through the ages.
"Our bodies are made up of very many different atomic structures. These are combined in chemical formulations of great complexity. The process of life requires a constant exchange of oxygen molecules. Water molecules comprise the great bulk of our physical reality. Cells combine and recombine to make up a variety of organs. There is the heart, the lungs, the brain, and the skin. All these parts, along with many others, contribute some distinct function which makes the whole viable. In our social organization we have bakers, butchers, and builders. Each one contributes personal efforts towards the greatest possible good of all. There is no possibility of autonomy in the universe of our experience. Everything is vitally and permanently related to everything else. This is one of the first things we must realize if we are to move towards a better future. Egocentrism, ethnocentrism and anthropocentrism will result in disaster."
Again by resort to metaphor, to provoke and promote the building of walls will bring harm. To provoke and promote the building of bridges is remedial. One means for building secure bridges over troubled water or terrain is to choose words as carefully as a bridge builder would choose stones and mortar. Noticing and eliminating words that accuse and divide will permit the clear expression of our personal insight specific to the common good.
I appreciate that different world experiences will generate different cosmologies. This difference is circumstantial and not determinative. Our common human being at the core of our particular human being ought to be in clear sight going forward. Each of us has opportunity to manifest the distinctive character of our ancestral roots in service to our common human being.
A parched human being met along the way will not ask concerning our beliefs when receiving the cup of refreshment we extend. As we cultivate the practice of patience, peace, kindness, empathy, generosity and tolerance our common human being will be supported and encouraged. This cultivation requires identification and eradication of all that hinders so that all that helps may flourish. This eradication must begin at home, at the heart of our own particular being. From there it will spread in the way light shines in darkness.
Takes a measure of courage to step out of the shadow and into the light; to stand for what is true in the face of what is error. To claim possession of truth stands close to the heart of all error.
George
I will add a short paragraph following this one. The paragraph is taken from a larger text written more than thirty years ago. My position on this has never diminished. It becomes clearer and clearer as I put off the clutter taken on through the ages.
"Our bodies are made up of very many different atomic structures. These are combined in chemical formulations of great complexity. The process of life requires a constant exchange of oxygen molecules. Water molecules comprise the great bulk of our physical reality. Cells combine and recombine to make up a variety of organs. There is the heart, the lungs, the brain, and the skin. All these parts, along with many others, contribute some distinct function which makes the whole viable. In our social organization we have bakers, butchers, and builders. Each one contributes personal efforts towards the greatest possible good of all. There is no possibility of autonomy in the universe of our experience. Everything is vitally and permanently related to everything else. This is one of the first things we must realize if we are to move towards a better future. Egocentrism, ethnocentrism and anthropocentrism will result in disaster."
Again by resort to metaphor, to provoke and promote the building of walls will bring harm. To provoke and promote the building of bridges is remedial. One means for building secure bridges over troubled water or terrain is to choose words as carefully as a bridge builder would choose stones and mortar. Noticing and eliminating words that accuse and divide will permit the clear expression of our personal insight specific to the common good.
I appreciate that different world experiences will generate different cosmologies. This difference is circumstantial and not determinative. Our common human being at the core of our particular human being ought to be in clear sight going forward. Each of us has opportunity to manifest the distinctive character of our ancestral roots in service to our common human being.
A parched human being met along the way will not ask concerning our beliefs when receiving the cup of refreshment we extend. As we cultivate the practice of patience, peace, kindness, empathy, generosity and tolerance our common human being will be supported and encouraged. This cultivation requires identification and eradication of all that hinders so that all that helps may flourish. This eradication must begin at home, at the heart of our own particular being. From there it will spread in the way light shines in darkness.
Takes a measure of courage to step out of the shadow and into the light; to stand for what is true in the face of what is error. To claim possession of truth stands close to the heart of all error.
George
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blackbelt1961
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he sure did, every cabinet minister had to sign that they cannot lobby up to 5 yrs after leaving office, but of course , Democratic CNN the fake news network will never report on it,
House Speaker Newt Gingrich also speaks on the manipulation of main stream media ( 70%+ or - ) who are all far left, are not news but propagandists , so the White House Press room is going to be adding for the First time skype feeds so all news scorces can report and the American people can see a clearly view of what is truly going on in there country
yes Trump did that too
Neo
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You and Trump really need to get the concept of what "fake news" really is. It's not criticism and it's not objectivity. As for the Skype feeds, haven't almost all the press releases in the past already been recorded? What's the difference? Except for maybe now no embarrassing question can be there from the press that might make him look bad or weak. I don't deny that many press agents already have an agenda when they cover the President, but that comes with the job. It's a job of being responsible and making the hard choices. It's not a popularity contest like he's treating it right now.
Preventing a cabinet minister so that they can't lobby up to 5 years after leaving office may be technically called an end to Government lobbyists because most (all?) of those cabinet posts he assigned are not currently from the Government. But is this really "draining the swamp" or is he just messing with words? Look who he's put into that swamp and tell me they are not lobbyists: http://time.com/donald-trump-drain-swamp/ This is the real point regarding the scary nature of Trump and his government. You're dancing around it like some Trump spokesman or woman.
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Neo
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So I want to ask again, are you proud of the fact that Trump and his billionaires are in control of the free world?
chansen
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is the intersection of Christianity and conservative politics, right here. This is how easy it is to convince some Christians that down is up, right is left, wrong is right. This is the sort of thing that is going to ultimately kill Christianity if Christians can't reel in this crazy.
You have a problem. You have to admit you have a problem and tackle it head on. You can't continue to pretend it doesn't exist. It's right in front of you.
GeoFee
I am who I am becoming...
Hi chansen,
Your notice of the predicament is appreciated. Some noticed the predicament of German politics under the auspices of tyrannical leadership. Those who noticed called those who failed to notice to account. That call to account was rarely respected and too often rejected with violence. Some of us have noticed the rise of contemporary totalitarian structures for a fair while. As one who notices I have left a fairly clear trail of my insight and my commitment specific to Church and State. My key commentary on this has been consistent... the collusion of religion and politics in the service of power spells disaster. Welcome Mr. Trump.
George
Neo
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Can you explain exactly what you love about this Unsafe?blackbelt1961 ---your quote ---hahahahaha, so did the main stream media, now there eating crow
have to love this statement -----
Is it the way Blackbelt totally avoided the way neither me or Chansen believes that Trump will do anything about health care, education and freedom for everyone? A deference, btw, that reminded me so much of how Kellyanne Conway would answer a question, (can't wait for the alternative facts, -{wink}-).
Or was it just the fact that the pundits and the press totally missed the pulse of the people last year? It seems this is brought up a lot whenever someone challenges the Trump administration.
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Can I ask you the same kind of question that I asked Blackbelt: are you concerned that the 1% is now in political control of the most powerful nation in the world? I mean, after all, what could go wrong with giving a bunch of unprepared bankers and very rich oil tycoons the keys to the word?
chansen
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But you won't take it on. You'll talk in circles and be critical of me if I'm confrontational.
It's almost depressing.
blackbelt1961
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blackbelt1961
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hahah love this one, CNN you are fake news
blackbelt1961
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chansen
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The rational are fearful of the irrational when the irrational have power. The media are not fearful because they are being called "fake" - they are fearful because outing a lying, bigoted man only seems to make him stronger with sufficient numbers of the electorate to give him real power. Nobody seems to know how to handle this situation. On paper, Donald Trump has been decimated. But he won. His inauguration was a laugh and his insistence it wasn't is even funnier. But he won. He is an arrogant yet thin skinned dufus. But he still won.
The poem reads, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses..." Trump collected the fearful, the bigoted, and the uber religious. And will now block refugees fromwar torn majority-Muslim nations. But not the Christians.
How Christian.
The poem reads, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses..." Trump collected the fearful, the bigoted, and the uber religious. And will now block refugees fromwar torn majority-Muslim nations. But not the Christians.
How Christian.
revsdd
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Sorry to disagree - but in what possible way did he do that. That's simply believing Trump's rhetoric, which is based on the assumption (which Trump - as an authoritarian - seems dangerously to share himself) that the President can do everything on his own. He can't. He needs approval from Congress for most of what he wants to do (if only because Congress votes to pay for it) and it's still Congress who passes legislation. That's 100 senators and 435 members of the House who are still there to be lobbied because their votes are essential to getting anything done. I suspect that historically - for this very reason - lobbying has always been directed mostly toward Congress and not the White House. Lobbying the White House is meaningless becaue it's Congress you have to have on board. Obama's eight years demonstrated that.