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I loved The Night Stalker series.

X-Files was definitely in the same vein with the exception that Mulder and Scully were far more competent than was Kolchak, never mind that the stories ended the same way general disbelief of those in position of authority.

I thought that Sunday's Pilot for the miniseries was fairly week and some of the dialogue was contrived. Really not liking the character of Tad O'Malley and find him to be a very weak device for a reunion of Scully and Mulder. He is a character who probably should meet some kind of grisly end and the sooner the better.

Apart from that Monday night's episode was very much the X-files I remember though there seems to be a real effort to play lighter moments against darker moments mood wise. I found the daydream moments that Scully and Mulder have of life with William to be fairly profound I hope we get some resolution on that plot line. A happily ever after moment perhaps? X-files did have a few of them.

Also, need more Cancer man (yes I am aware that they changed the reference to Cigarette Smoking man but that just never worked for me). Several evil seconds of him each episode ramps up the danger level.

Interestingly enough, the Sunday night episode kind of lost me - even though I'm an X-Files fan - but my wife liked it - even though she's not. Monday night's episode I thought was better.
 
As a weird person who doesn't have a tv that receives the regular programming I find conversations about programmes a bit bemusing. I often wonder what it is that makes people devote so much time and so many words to something that isn't real. Am I really the only person (other than my partner) who prefers to talk about things and situations that actually exist? I like to have time to pursue hobbies that lead to pleasure and\or satisfaction. On the rare occasions that I get sucked into a watching a tv show at someone else's house it seems so pointless. Most of the things I have watched appear to be written to appeal to those with little intelligence and every few minutes one is bombarded by adverts for items I neither want nor need.
 
@KayTheCurler

We do say we reject the imaginary ... do you wonder why the legend in the story persists? Only for a baptism of the real into the far ode?

Some author as a Singer can make this really AUM-Y! O eM ... that outside host ...
 
As a weird person who doesn't have a tv that receives the regular programming I find conversations about programmes a bit bemusing.

Your post is starting out by sounding a bit condescending.

KayTheCurler said:
I often wonder what it is that makes people devote so much time and so many words to something that isn't real.

Give me a break. In the overall scheme of things I don't think that anything that's been written here suggests that anyone who has written is spending an inordinate amount of either time or all that many words on something that isn't real. Some of us have TV shows we like. Sometimes we talk about them. It's not as if they're the guiding force in our lives.

KayTheCurler said:
Am I really the only person (other than my partner) who prefers to talk about things and situations that actually exist? I like to have time to pursue hobbies that lead to pleasure and\or satisfaction.

Because none of us who have posted in this thread have ever discussed anything other than TV shows or movies on Wonder Cafe? The fact that some people watch some TV shows and periodically like to talk about them does not in any way indicate that they don't enjoy talking about things and situations that actually exist. Nor does it mean that they don't have time to pursue hobbies that lead to pleasure and/or satisfaction.

KayTheCurler said:
On the rare occasions that I get sucked into a watching a tv show at someone else's house it seems so pointless. Most of the things I have watched appear to be written to appeal to those with little intelligence and every few minutes one is bombarded by adverts for items I neither want nor need.


Then the easy solution, rather than using so much time and so many words to comment on something that you think others spend too much time and too many words on, is to live your life as you see fit and let the rest of us do the same without needing to comment, using words that could be taken to suggest that those who watch TV and don't otherwise live like you must have "little intelligence"

So I and a few others like The X-Files. Shoot us.
 
Is TV a virtue ... or just a time machine as true calm passion ... something not busting out of a rationale behaviour pattern?

Could this allow agogiven peace/piece of mind ... adequately distributed ... albeit fractal-like ... wee bits?
 
TV allows one to watch things from scattered places and times ... like You Are There ... a sort of image of a time machine? Funny thing did you know HG Wells came out with that about the same time as that idiot tube was first demonstrated in an eclectic neon flash ...?

It can be educational if you can filter out the marketing crap ... some intelligence may be required on the depths of human behaviour when trying to out do the other.

As Len Cohen sang ... love is more that being out drawn ... or who saw the first light ... it is something that leaves one with Shiva's ... although the cryptic form may alter ... to hide the truth ...
 
As a weird person who doesn't have a tv that receives the regular programming I find conversations about programmes a bit bemusing. I often wonder what it is that makes people devote so much time and so many words to something that isn't real. Am I really the only person (other than my partner) who prefers to talk about things and situations that actually exist? I like to have time to pursue hobbies that lead to pleasure and\or satisfaction. On the rare occasions that I get sucked into a watching a tv show at someone else's house it seems so pointless. Most of the things I have watched appear to be written to appeal to those with little intelligence and every few minutes one is bombarded by adverts for items I neither want nor need.

i LOVE that, being on the outside, looking in...we're a bunch of domesticated primates, screeching & hooting & grooming etc each other...we're really quite amusing :3 Or like high heels, those are BIZARRE! Or defining people by their job...

Oh, I've got a cousin who doesn't read fiction or even watch fiction movies because that's not his bag

I also had a classmate who didn't grok fiction in writing; he was an accountant trying to branch out in experience & he was in the same writing program as I and it was confusing him

( I remember my first experience with a college-level Lit course, where we had to come up with reasons why the characters were acting that way and I learned that that was a kind of a social norm -- even tho I didn't know the term at the time -- of that Literature class -- because I was confused and thought 'but, they act that way because the writer wrote them that way' :3)

Just think of when people write or talk aboot the tv shows they like or don't like to be the same as them talking aboot what books they like or don't like, art, music, people, etc etc etc -- similar to how in the Room for All thread, people can dole out virtual movements, virtual martinis, virtual food etc? In the case of the x-files, for me, it is trying to recapture the feelings & circumstances I had when I saw it between 1993 & 2002 -- which includes all of the talking aboot it, the fanfic, the incorporating it into role playing (LARPing), the music, where I was living at the time, etc etc etc I find I can get attached to characters in a fictional piece -- I cried at the end of the LOtR like I had said goodbye to a friend.
 
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Are you saying the role of human is wrought in the greater story of pragma Ticks?

Tis a dark etude or read as they say in Briton when doing engineering ... they read engineering sort of an Ephraim in construct ... to many what is read is dark!
 
KayTheCurler said:
Am I really the only person (other than my partner) who prefers to talk about things and situations that actually exist?

Like Tom Tomson's Snow in October?

Television is, like it or not, an art form. In fact it is the crossroads of various different art forms. Visually it can be better or worse than the National Art Gallery's "Voice of Fire." In terms of story telling it can be better or worse than anything which appears on the Front Page of any newspaper.

Easily dismissed as trivial it is possible to miss what reflection of reality it may or may not bring. Enabling the conversation to move past such trivial and banal things like the reality of government conspiracies to the way the loss of a loved one carries forward in our lives shaping and possibly crippling our ability to step lightly.

And then, sometimes life has been so seriously full and real, that watching the world's fastest man throw his arch nemesis through a time portal into the future may offer catharsis.

And it isn't like conversation is an either/or choice where individuals must choose only to talk about the actual or the fictional.
 
As a weird person who doesn't have a tv that receives the regular programming I find conversations about programmes a bit bemusing. I often wonder what it is that makes people devote so much time and so many words to something that isn't real. Am I really the only person (other than my partner) who prefers to talk about things and situations that actually exist? I like to have time to pursue hobbies that lead to pleasure and\or satisfaction. On the rare occasions that I get sucked into a watching a tv show at someone else's house it seems so pointless. Most of the things I have watched appear to be written to appeal to those with little intelligence and every few minutes one is bombarded by adverts for items I neither want nor need.
If you don't like it, just don't watch it. Why go on and on about something that simply isn't your cup of tea?
 
Actually the last new TV we bought was about three years ago. It's a Sony. I like it.

Ours is two years old, a Toshiba. It's okay, but I kind of think, in retrospect, that I probably should have skipped on getting a "smart" TV and bought just a good LED display, then added a Chromecast or other media device (Roku, Patriot, etc.) for access to Youtube, Netflix, Crave, etc. And with the price of the Chromecast running around $50, I may yet buy one and just forego my TV's half-assed built-in apps.
 
I often wonder what it is that makes people devote so much time and so many words to something that isn't real. Am I really the only person (other than my partner) who prefers to talk about things and situations that actually exist?

So ... no fiction of any kind enters your life? No movies, no novels or short stories, no plays, operas, or musicals? I mean, I know you're going at TV here, but this argument could be used against any kind of fictional media (and has). The notion that there is something superior about talking about the "real" when so much of the best fiction is actually doing just that, though not necessarily in a direct way, just makes me shake my head. We have an imagination and whether it is God-given or the product of evolution, we should be able to enjoy the fruits of having one.

As John suggests, it is not an either/or proposition. We can be real and enjoy fiction at the same time. Yes, there are people who get so caught up in their fictions that one would suggest they need to "get a life" (e.g. the guys who rant and rave and even make threats when they don't like a casting decision or how a storyline is handled in a movie or TV show) but I don't think they are the norm. Most of us know where the line between reality and fantasy is and can move comfortably around it, enjoying both.
 
Wonder why the dark angels invade mankind's Shadow?

That's Eve angels trying to preach to those that have no use for the blanketed mute message ...

Some insight to satyrs may be prerequisite ... they can be an ass ... or even a donkey carrying your illuminations by times ...

By the light of a free'd (rye) soul you can sometimes see rare physical beauty ... that might be myth, or beyond, the personal reality blocking out the 7 matched virtues ...

The stuff that goes on inside the inverse miracle of the wee mind ... alternate cognizance? Then the truth is possibly pornographic to those that would like to say I know nothing ... or would like for me not to know the truth about a lot of things ...

Such are the nature and un natural about wild desires! Does God (desire) have a dark side or just what we are limited to knowing ... a product of spotty minds ... dot-Eire as the real Boson!
 
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