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Our grocery store only allows one person inside to shop. So kids would have to stay in car or home..... tricky if you are a single parent of young kids. Assume they would make an exception, small town they know everyone. But a ten year old I would leave at home

annoying that customers would be so rude. I expect long waits at stores. Extra cleaning between customers. I suppose stress and anxiety come out from everyone. Or perhaps he is just a jerk and always has been
 
KayTheCurler said:
I was near two young ladies wearing lots of perfume a wile back. I coughed, coughed some more, and yet more. They stepped away from me with pointed looks and a remark about coughing being a sign of Covid. I said it is also a sign that I am standing near people wearing strong perfume. Some days I don't have much willingness to be super tactful.
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Sometimes the truth hurts to those above all others! High airs can numb ... and the rich man is intoxicated ... this has a metaphor in the psyche domain ... difficult to translate and interpret for those stuck on a single line (power hungry; I do as I please without respect) The integral relationship is larger than it appears ... look beyond Dor Ethy!
 
I have a chronic cough from excessive post nasal drainage. I am told by some professionals that there are no chronic conditions ... all is black and white! The condition is connected to endocrines/hormones heart stimulus and pulmonary connects. It is complex and a one pill theory will not suffice. I see the solution as a multiple outage of vast proportion ... this is mental crisis when a blind heart fractures the entire system ...

Medical authoritarianism? I just admit I do not know... but it appears the resolution is beyond physical physicians ... I expect recall and more put down ... leading to being out of sight!

A statement of acceptance of the great unknown? I shall find out and reply to your unconscious entity, an abstract function that carries across space, time in a flash! It is rarely understood decently ... always with fear and anger in the physical domain ... like coupling participles ... particles of communion? Wee bitz ... from the twilight zoa 'n that borders on anima and animus ... Mede? It is a honey of a myth with pleasant whines ...

As amber, men have a version and women have theirs ... when pied together use great care and caution ... errs are koine for wisdom! My cumulative thought function ... complementarianism that can be ruag ... in place ... anywhere ... all by chance of learning potential!
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
I had a nice thing happen tonight. I have been feeling a bit lazy - using scooter, laying about the house...so I went for a walk around the block with my walker. An elderly gentleman, about 80, walked by me in the middle of the road (there are hardly any cars driving down the side roads these days - everybody's parked, and at home). He was walking at a pretty good clip, I automatically slowed down (it's a balance thing) as he passed, to look at the bunch of daffodils in his hand. Maybe he stole them from somebody's yard and he was running away from the scene of the crime, LOL (there are a few stray wild ones around too, though - they are at their peak right now so they're abundant in gardens and a few popping up on the outside edges of fences - those grass patches that don't belong to anyone in particular ). He asked if I was okay. I said, "Yeah, I'm fine. Was just looking at your flowers." He stepped a step closer and leaned over and extended a stem to me (may have been less than 1.5 metres for a second or two but he took the risk) - I thanked him. That was nice. I have a single daffodil on my coffee table now.
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Maybe the daffodils were from his own garden & he was sharing them with random strangers to brighten their day? Nice that you have one to enjoy now, to brighten your space & your days. (and edit to add - a fleeting interaction such as you describe is highly unlikely to be problematic.)

Yesterday, my friend for whom I had been shopping for several weeks when they returned from Florida, went shopping & got OUR groceries too - one person at the store is better than two :) And when she arrived at the door, she also brought me a surprise bouquet of tulips :) So unexpected - and lovely.
 
So friends - this a loooong video (almost an hour) - by a doc (pulmonary specialist fellow) in NYC. It is a recording of a zoom call (so not 'pro video'. Poor guy looks exhausted, but it is clearly important to him to provide good, evidence based info. My attention was brought to it by a doc I worked with for several decades.

Good information - learn the rules & follow them - no real need for panic for most. So make yourself a cup of tea, pick up your knitting, and listen along if you wish.

 
Carolla said:
Maybe the daffodils were from his own garden & he was sharing them with random strangers to brighten their day? Nice that you have one to enjoy now, to brighten your space & your days. (and edit to add - a fleeting interaction such as you describe is highly unlikely to be problematic.)

Yesterday, my friend for whom I had been shopping for several weeks when they returned from Florida, went shopping & got OUR groceries too - one person at the store is better than two :) And when she arrived at the door, she also brought me a surprise bouquet of tulips :) So unexpected - and lovely.
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He was b-lining it toward the main road, and jaywalked across, and it was just getting dark out - I think he was probably heading home. He asked if I was ok, then hesitated, then passed me a flower. It didn't seem like he planned to give them out. Regardless, it was nice of him.

That was good of your friends. :)
 
Carolla said:
So friends - this a loooong video (almost an hour) - by a doc (pulmonary specialist fellow) in NYC. It is a recording of a zoom call (so not 'pro video'. Poor guy looks exhausted, but it is clearly important to him to provide good, evidence based info. My attention was brought to it by a doc I worked with for several decades.

Good information - learn the rules & follow them - no real need for panic for most. So make yourself a cup of tea, pick up your knitting, and listen along if you wish.

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I really liked that pro active non- panic information. Thank you , Carolla
 
The Island Health catchment area, again, has a population of 795,000. There have been 73 cases (up 5 in the past 4 days) and 2 deaths - a person in their 80s, and one in their 90s - who I'm guessing we're somewhat fragile already, and would've been in danger of pneumonia from other causes were covid not around. The restrictions are confusing and frustrating me right now. We wouldn't be doing this near total lockdown for any other illness that 80-90 year olds are in danger from when the average life expectancy is 80 (79.9 to be exact) They won't treat people for other serious illnesses who are close to 90.

Around here the 80-90 year olds are walking around, out shopping daily. It doesn't make sense.
 
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Kimmio Laughterlove said:
The Island Health catchment area, again, has a population of 795,000. There have been 73 cases (up 5 in the past 4 days) and 2 deaths - a person in their 80s, and one in their 90s - who I'm guessing we're somewhat fragile already, and would've been in danger of pneumonia from other causes were covid not around. The restrictions are confusing and frustrating me right now. We wouldn't be doing this near total lockdown for any other illness that 80-90 year olds are in danger from when the average life expectancy is 80. They won't treat people for other serious illnesses who are close to 90.

Around here the 80-90 year olds are walking around, out shopping daily. It doesn't make sense.
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Are all the 73 cases elderly?
 
Waterfall said:
Are all the 73 cases elderly?
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I can't find that information - just that the majority of cases are in long term care and assisted living facilities. 50% of all cases in all of BC have recovered fully. Last numbers I found were 128 hospitalized, and of those just over 60 cases in all of BC are in ICU. The rest are recovering at home (which as you probably know if you've had a bad cold, can drag on for several weeks).
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
The Island Health catchment area, again, has a population of 795,000. There have been 73 cases (up 5 in the past 4 days) and 2 deaths - a person in their 80s, and one in their 90s - who I'm guessing we're somewhat fragile already, and would've been in danger of pneumonia from other causes were covid not around. The restrictions are confusing and frustrating me right now. We wouldn't be doing this near total lockdown for any other illness that 80-90 year olds are in danger from when the average life expectancy is 80 (79.9 to be exact) They won't treat people for other serious illnesses who are close to 90.

Around here the 80-90 year olds are walking around, out shopping daily. It doesn't make sense.
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My 91 year old grandfather was hospitalized and treated for the flu. He has heart damage from it.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
I know, and we should - but the numbers and the restrictions - at least here, are disproportionate.
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It's not the the elderly who need critical care with this. Even if we were to cut off an age, unless we're happy with significantly reducing lifespans, hospitals would still be overwhelmed. A 34 year old died this week - his chronic condition was asthma. Couldn't have been too severe as he was a regular at a hockey rink.
 
ChemGal said:
It's not the the elderly who need critical care with this. Even if we were to cut off an age, unless we're happy with significantly reducing lifespans, hospitals would still be overwhelmed. A 34 year old died this week - his chronic condition was asthma. Couldn't have been too severe as he was a regular at a hockey rink.
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And he should've been treated. I just question the lockdown.
 
ChemGal said:
Again, it's so we can treat people. And not just of COVID-19, but in general. If too many are sick, we can't do much.
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That's always true. Even with treatable illness and illnesses that have vaccines. The problem is the shitty neoliberal system.

Look at the numbers I posted for Island Health and tell me something about this response is not out of whack here. Only 11 people have been hospitalized - 4 ICU, 2 deaths - out of 72 cases - out of 795,000 population. How many have been hospitalized for other types of pneumonia - do we even know?No we don't. Heart attacks? No we don't. Car accidents? No we don't. Brain aneurisms? No we don't. Multiple other causes? No we don't. But we know that 2 people between 80-90 died of covid related pneumonia in the past month or so and we're all in lockdown. I'm following the rules - vigilantly washing hands, wiping down everything, isolating, distancing - but they are not making sense.
 
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