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Some of the big stores are suspending using reusable bags, and not taking bottles and cans. I thought about it tonight when I took out the garbage and recycling and my roommate had put empty pop cans in the garbage.( I took them out and washed my hands. Then I took everything out and washed my hands. Then I came inside and washed my hands, replaced the garbage bags, and washed my hands...and at some point in the next 15 minutes, I washed my hands. And I used paper towel to dry them)... I realized there's a case of empty soda water cans still here from weeks ago. Then I thought "we should be returning these"... then I thought of COVID...and wondered about returns, and the homeless and others who are poor who depend on bottle and can returns. Sure enough, some big stores have stopped taking them. :(
I don't think many stores here take them back (although I recall something about machines), we have depots that pay back the deposit. Chemguy took them in this week. Nice to have them out of the way, but unnecessary. He is often happy to be at home but lately I do kind of feel like he wants to be out just because he's being told he should be at home. For the bottles though, I feel like the risk is more to those working there than to those bringing them in. He was the only customer? client? there at the time. For now, I will let him have his mini excursions - buying things off a buy sell site and other things where physical distance is fairly maintained. He actually has an overnight out of town work trip planned this week. The hotel room I feel a bit uneasy about, but right now he's probably the bigger risk to everyone else there than the other way around looking at the numbers. I think I'll be a little more insistent with him as this worsens which really might not take long.

*sigh* My parents - spending waaay too much time in stores that sell groceries. It's not just 1 or 2 stores in a day when they go and I feel like they are going out most days. My Mom very much wants all her usual products.
 
I don't think many stores here take them back (although I recall something about machines), we have depots that pay back the deposit. Chemguy took them in this week. Nice to have them out of the way, but unnecessary. He is often happy to be at home but lately I do kind of feel like he wants to be out just because he's being told he should be at home. For the bottles though, I feel like the risk is more to those working there than to those bringing them in. He was the only customer? client? there at the time. For now, I will let him have his mini excursions - buying things off a buy sell site and other things where physical distance is fairly maintained. He actually has an overnight out of town work trip planned this week. The hotel room I feel a bit uneasy about, but right now he's probably the bigger risk to everyone else there than the other way around looking at the numbers. I think I'll be a little more insistent with him as this worsens which really might not take long.

*sigh* My parents - spending waaay too much time in stores that sell groceries. It's not just 1 or 2 stores in a day when they go and I feel like they are going out most days. My Mom very much wants all her usual products.
The risk is that the homeless and poor depend on that money. In this neighbourhood, there’s a guy who rides by on a bike with a trailer/ wagon thing attached and collects empties from the blue boxes on recycling night. Up near my parents, not far from here...there’s a person i’ve seen several times driving by and doing the same in their car the night before recycling pick up. And there are many in town who go through the garbage cans for them. It’s not covid that they feel haunted by...it’s poverty. It was pretty sad already.
 
I don't think many stores here take them back (although I recall something about machines), we have depots that pay back the deposit. Chemguy took them in this week. Nice to have them out of the way, but unnecessary. He is often happy to be at home but lately I do kind of feel like he wants to be out just because he's being told he should be at home. For the bottles though, I feel like the risk is more to those working there than to those bringing them in. He was the only customer? client? there at the time. For now, I will let him have his mini excursions - buying things off a buy sell site and other things where physical distance is fairly maintained. He actually has an overnight out of town work trip planned this week. The hotel room I feel a bit uneasy about, but right now he's probably the bigger risk to everyone else there than the other way around looking at the numbers. I think I'll be a little more insistent with him as this worsens which really might not take long.

*sigh* My parents - spending waaay too much time in stores that sell groceries. It's not just 1 or 2 stores in a day when they go and I feel like they are going out most days. My Mom very much wants all her usual products.
My step dad is getting sad. I can hear it in his voice. He’s in his early 80s. I can tell he’s having trouble because he is such a creature of habit. He was a school teacher and he’s very into routine and being able to count on certain things just the way they are. His whole world was just turned upside down. I know him well and he can’t handle the smallest changes without getting out of sorts. I also wonder if he was drinking when I talked to him. He was drinking a bit much a couple years ago...sneaking an extra glass of wine here and there and he actually told me he needed to slow it down. Recently, he got back into his exercise classes he went to with friends. Now, it’s all stopped and he’s sad. He doesn’t have that many years to enjoy as it is, and this is not going to be good for his general health. He said my mom, who’s 10 yrs younger, has been sleeping a lot. My guess is she’s depressed because she was so busy volunteering for the theatre...stage design and costumes - it gave her purpose and a creative outlet (and praise for her talent, she seems to need) and that’s been stopped altogether. She can’t get together to do things with her friends. It’s hard on people and their quality of life. In my opinion, disability, decline in function, is easier to accept than sudden social/ societal decline, loss of real life connection and activities...anything...it can change but we all need something going on that gets us up in the morning. This might be easier for introverts. But if one is not...this might be devastating. I can handle my own company. I like to socialize sometimes, in small groups though. I enjoy sitting inside or outside cafes, chatting with one person at a time. I like to go to church when I go, etc. I like my home group. I like seeing some people at work.
 
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I wonder if you could suggest your parents get involved in on line activities. Certainly costume design and planning can be done at home

perhaps your step father could get involved in on line teaching. Tutoring .......

it can be very hard to be isolated.
re hotels

when we drive back from Florida I brought a jar of bleach. When we got to the room, I used a face cloth and my bleach and cleaned all the hard surfaces. Knobs, faucets, switches......not sure if it needed to be done, the hotel was very clean but it made us feel better

we are through the first week of quarantine after returning from the USA. feeling Good so far
 
I wonder if you could suggest your parents get involved in on line activities. Certainly costume design and planning can be done at home

perhaps your step father could get involved in on line teaching. Tutoring .......

it can be very hard to be isolated.
re hotels

when we drive back from Florida I brought a jar of bleach. When we got to the room, I used a face cloth and my bleach and cleaned all the hard surfaces. Knobs, faucets, switches......not sure if it needed to be done, the hotel was very clean but it made us feel better

we are through the first week of quarantine after returning from the USA. feeling Good so far
Somebody would have to be beside him to teach him how to do something like online tutoring... I'm not even sure how to set that up. I could figure it out but then I'd have to be there right next to him...we can't do that. My mom bought him a tablet a couple of years ago and he just couldn't get into it. He checks and sends email and plays cards on the PC. That's about as far as he's gotten, as far as his interest goes with technology. In the past few years my mom's and his age difference is showing. She uses her tablet...Facebook, Pinterest, she gets audio books from the library. There are creative things to do but she needs to have the actual attention of people and be out there, busy, or she gets depressed. I get down when isolated too long...like when I broke my knee-cap, I was on it too much because I had to get out at a point. I couldn't handle being stuck with them. I paid for it because it took twice as long to heal - I remember the stupid brace slipping and my knee wasn't stabilized properly. So, I learned about being stuck at home...I just like to have something to do that keeps me content. It doesn't have to be special. My mom's more specific. I don't think she could teach my stepdad how to do online tutoring, though, either. Even if she could. She might not have the patience.
 
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German stores ar putting plastic between the cashier and the customers and taping lines on the floor to keep distances in the line up.
 
Services shut down, lone refugee children abandoned.


Worlwide covid19 numbers at the time of this post:

233,527
Currently Infected Patients

222,310 (95%)
in Mild Condition

11,217 (5%)
Serious or Critical

 
We are a plasticising society but still quite pious and rigid ...

Meltdown is necessary for recycle ... face terminals with a positive attitude. It is so depressing to see the prophets of positivity getting so down ... on the common populace!

May require adequate understanding of koine ... the vernacular? Thus equ' Knocks ...
 
I just want to tear my hair out when I hear someone say after ignoring social distancing and other precautions, "Oh well, If I get it, I get it"........

Apparently this is a problem with young adults too, during spring break.....ignoring social distancing and the need to stay away from large crowds. Beaches and bars are full.
Okay Gen Z !
 
Just how can they properly look after people like that?

The technology is out there (I'm messing with one example even as we speak) but not widespread or widely used. It's not a perfect substitute for a personal visit, but it enables doing things like taking a BP or O2 sat from a patient who is remote to you, as well as having a secure one-on-one (or even three-way if a family member is involved) video or voice call from practitioner to patient. So, it is possible to do a surprising amount of care remotely, but this disease hit maybe 5 years too early. By the middle of this decade, I imagine we'll see this more widely used and therefore in place and ready to go when something like this happens.
 
In due time we may not even need people to do health care ... and on the other hand with great efficiency of the market ... there may be no people left to suffer dis ease and tense conditions ... we are all to be relieved of such assignations!
 
The technology is out there (I'm messing with one example even as we speak) but not widespread or widely used

The BP machine my husband uses has the capacity to send data using wifi or bluetooth. I understand there are other devices with this capacity.
 
The BP machine my husband uses has the capacity to send data using wifi or bluetooth. I understand there are other devices with this capacity.

Exactly. So the virtual care app we use interfaces with products like that (we only use the oximeter right now, but have discussed adding BP) and sends the data to their cloud where the clinician can see it. It also has "workflows" that allow a clinician to collect data from a patient via question and answer (How are you feeling? Are your symptoms improving? etc.) and then decide next actions based on the responses and results. That could include calling the patient, notifying another clinician who is part of the team, or requesting that the patient see their doctor (in our case, if it was a doctor, they'd need to give some other direction, I guess).
 
If you saw somebody stumble and fall on the sidewalk 3 meters on front of you - they say they're ok, but they are older and have a bit of trouble standing back up - what would you do?
 
My roommate said she would call 9-1-1. I just asked her this morning after reading that article - I spoke to her. I wondered if that is not a waste of resources when all they need is a hand up. So this whole wasting/ conserving of healthcare and emergency resources argument seems off to me.
 
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