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Mrs.Anteater said:
Because of the ambulance problems, NS has started an alternative transportation which doesn’t have full paramedics staffing for patients who are stable and need drives to LTC facilities or home. They don’t take anybody who is at risk or confused- or the hospital has to send along a nurse. They also offer free transportation to dialysis. Our newish provincial government now has a former nurse for a health minister. That sometimes seems to be beneficial.
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Some bottom up guidance is always an asset that the administration will resist given how administrators are conditioned in the modern passages of time ... some where in there a Wahl perhaps of distant laughter from the farce Ide ... said to be an initiate ... but long gone!

I had a complex friend like that ... imaginary virtue? Could be a long shot given quantum conditions ...

(say nothing that will upset the authorities is the rule; silence, blindness and speak not ... thus rite ... base satyr as carrier)
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
Because of the ambulance problems, NS has started an alternative transportation which doesn’t have full paramedics staffing for patients who are stable and need drives to LTC facilities or home. They don’t take anybody who is at risk or confused- or the hospital has to send along a nurse. They also offer free transportation to dialysis. Our newish provincial government now has a former nurse for a health minister. That sometimes seems to be beneficial.
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Ambulances don't take people home here. Pretty sure the same is true for LTC although I don't have experience with it in AB.

A child with a badly broken leg was taken to a health center this week by a fire truck because an ambulance wasn't coming and by the sounds of it he was showing symptoms of shock.
 
ChemGal said:
Ambulances don't take people home here. Pretty sure the same is true for LTC although I don't have experience with it in AB.
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Here we have "Patient Transportation Services" that do that kind of work. One of the local cab companies used to own a company that did that but I am not sure who own it now. The cab company fell on hard times due to the owner overextending himself by buying things like, well, patient transportation services.

Ambulances staffed by EMTs are reserved for emergencies or transportation of ill/injured patients between hospitals where the patient needs to be monitored. e.g. If a patient needs specialized care that the first hospital doesn't have available.
 
Mendalla said:
Ambulances staffed by EMTs are reserved for emergencies or transportation of ill/injured patients between hospitals where the patient needs to be monitored. e.g. If a patient needs specialized care that the first hospital doesn't have available.
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I'm pretty sure here it's the same. Sometimes people call an ambulance and normally that's not refused, but ambulance rides are pricey so doubt there's that many people calling for a trip to the emergency room. Private insurance does cover it but it's not uncommon to have only 1 for every 2 years for a whole family. They do triage calls too so with a shortage non urgent calls are likely waiting a long time.

My parents' neighbour died of a heart attack this past summer, it took over 30 minutes for one to show up and they are very close to a hall. Off duty cop neighbour showed up to help hearing it on the scanner. So 3 people to do CPR, the wife, my dad and then later on the cop. CPR was appearing successful ie. colour returned so I doubt he was deprioritized just because they assumed nothing could be done. My mom was the one to call, so she had a clear timer from the phone it wasn't just oh it felt like it was more than half an hour.
 
I'm very thrown by Dr. Henry suggesting we handle COVID in the future like the flu or a cold. We handle colds very differently from the flu. Ie. Pretty much nothing for isolation procedures, monitoring with colds. Influenza there is vaccines, flu watch monitoring, antiviral prescription, infection control policies during outbreaks at LTC facilities, school outbreak procedures, etc. The trigger point for a lot of the policies is higher for flu than what it has been from COVID, but still throwing cold into the comparison mix as colds are at the other extreme of the continuum for public health interventions, about as little as possible is done. Strep throat has more public health intervention.
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
This is bad.
Of the patients in NS hospitals, 63% are patients that are double vaccinated.
Don’t they think that patients in hospitals are compromised??
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I wonder about things like consent. Are the noncovid patients being informed? I also find it a bit odd that vaccinated people aren't getting equal levels of care. Mild cases means no hospitalization. People who have had 2 doses still get quite stay at home level of sick.
I think we should also have clear information about long covid risks before doing that. Again the information we have considers those who have symptoms for many months to be a mild case if they were not hospitalized.
 
The silence on paxlovid prescribing criteria to me suggests the federal government really needs to get on things better. Seems like all the provinces are waiting for more information.
 
ChemGal said:
I wonder about things like consent. Are the noncovid patients being informed? I also find it a bit odd that vaccinated people aren't getting equal levels of care. Mild cases means no hospitalization. People who have had 2 doses still get quite stay at home level of sick.
I think we should also have clear information about long covid risks before doing that. Again the information we have considers those who have symptoms for many months to be a mild case if they were not hospitalized.
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I think what they are talking here is mild cases on people who came to the hospital for other reasons. So they are just putting them into rooms with other patients who are not positive but double vaxxed. ( hoping they are not that infectious, I suppose). How they can judge that the mild doesn’t turn into a moderate? And why can’t they put several mild together?
 
Apparently, one can still test positive for weeks after having had Covid. So maybe they are talking here about people who have had Covid and still test positive?
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
I think what they are talking here is mild cases on people who came to the hospital for other reasons. So they are just putting them into rooms with other patients who are not positive but double vaxxed. ( hoping they are not that infectious, I suppose). How they can judge that the mild doesn’t turn into a moderate? And why can’t they put several mild together?
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I mean the expectation that double vaxxed low risk people will have a mild case. It doesn't mean they won't have symptoms that will seriously impact their quality of life for years to come. That's considered mild by multiple governments including BC.
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
Apparently, one can still test positive for weeks after having had Covid. So maybe they are talking here about people who have had Covid and still test positive?
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Doesn't sound like it based on what's being. A rapid test would be an ideal starting place if someone has been positive via PCR for a few days. If someone is pos8on the they are likely quite putting out a fair bit of virus.
 
I saw the headline related to this earlier but it's better than I thought.
www.nytimes.com

Professor Who Called Students ‘Vectors of Disease’ in Video Is Suspended (Published 2022)

Barry Mehler of Ferris State University was put on paid leave after uploading the bizarre welcome video, but some of his peers said his rights of free expression were being curtailed.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

Prof is retiring in 1 yr, thinks teaching in person right now is unsafe, puts out a video and then gets what he wants, not teaching while being paid.
 
It's ridiculous things got to this point for them to act.
ChemGal said:
I'm pretty sure here it's the same. Sometimes people call an ambulance and normally that's not refused, but ambulance rides are pricey so doubt there's that many people calling for a trip to the emergency room. Private insurance does cover it but it's not uncommon to have only 1 for every 2 years for a whole family. They do triage calls too so with a shortage non urgent calls are likely waiting a long time.

My parents' neighbour died of a heart attack this past summer, it took over 30 minutes for one to show up and they are very close to a hall. Off duty cop neighbour showed up to help hearing it on the scanner. So 3 people to do CPR, the wife, my dad and then later on the cop. CPR was appearing successful ie. colour returned so I doubt he was deprioritized just because they assumed nothing could be done. My mom was the one to call, so she had a clear timer from the phone it wasn't just oh it felt like it was more than half an hour.
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Well now the caller won't necessarily get an ambulance.
calgary.ctvnews.ca

EMS capacity in Alberta to be immediately increased, committee to help pave future EMS path

Alberta unveiled a 10-point plan Monday to deal with unprecedented stress on the provincial EMS system.
calgary.ctvnews.ca calgary.ctvnews.ca
 
I certainly wouldn't want to be in the hospital for something that requires admission and get put in a room with a Covid positive person. Getting infected could be very dangerous for me and many others with existing health problems. Some families may consider a legal challenge if they lost a family member through the carelessness of the system.
 
KayTheCurler said:
I certainly wouldn't want to be in the hospital for something that requires admission and get put in a room with a Covid positive person. Getting infected could be very dangerous for me and many others with existing health problems. Some families may consider a legal challenge if they lost a family member through the carelessness of the system.
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Plus there's further implications. Let's pretend Chemguy slips (it's icy out there!) Breaks his leg to the point it needs surgery. He is deemed low risk, placed with a covid+ patient. Comes home and is it really expected that I not get it from him? It's not like he would be able to manage doing things his normal way.I imagine for the so called low risk there would be many in that situation.
 
ChemGal said:
Plus there's further implications. Let's pretend Chemguy slips (it's icy out there!) Breaks his leg to the point it needs surgery. He is deemed low risk, placed with a covid+ patient. Comes home and is it really expected that I not get it from him? It's not like he would be able to manage doing things his normal way.I imagine for the so called low risk there would be many in that situation.
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Lets take it this way ... powerful administration knows better and thus lesser folks don't count ... until chthos rises as covering up for something the administration has yet to observe ... purpose in life? Face it ... understood is commonly humble! Write that down separate from politicians, CEO's and other declared power of BS!

Get it! Well at least a little portion ... and share ... its impressive like Dante's fall ...
 
And now there's something called Omicron variant BA.2. being investigated as it spreads worldwide.
This is a spinoff of the BA.1 Omicron that we're used to, but this one can't be tested using PCR tests, it requires genetic sequencing for identification.
BA.2 lacks the spike mutations so it doesn't have that "signal" for testing.

vancouversun.com

COVID-19: Investigations underway as Omicron variant BA.2 spreads worldwide

B.C. Ministry of Health has not confirmed whether this new Omicron spinoff has appeared in the province
vancouversun.com vancouversun.com
 
Waterfall said:
And now there's something called Omicron variant BA.2. being investigated as it spreads worldwide.
This is a spinoff of the BA.1 Omicron that we're used to, but this one can't be tested using PCR tests, it requires genetic sequencing for identification.
BA.2 lacks the spike mutations so it doesn't have that "signal" for testing.

vancouversun.com

COVID-19: Investigations underway as Omicron variant BA.2 spreads worldwide

B.C. Ministry of Health has not confirmed whether this new Omicron spinoff has appeared in the province
vancouversun.com vancouversun.com
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It can be tested for via PCR tests in terms of getting positives for COVID. The simple way of differentiating between variants is what's lacking - for now. We have seen this with other variants already and this can be adjust based on what is being looked at. AB was actually sequencing all positives for a while, when they were under a certain threshold.
 
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