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I am not sure who they are transferring. They spoke about specially outfitting ambulances and helicopters so that doesn’t sound like they are transferring non infected people

logic says keep infections together to decrease spread. Practicality says that the staff working i big centers are burning out and need help. I would , if I was in charge, lol, I would ask for out of district doctors and nurses to come to big centers to work. At government expense put them up in hotels. But get the extra staff in to help. Transfer non Covid patients to “clean “ hospitals for regular surgery and regular hospitalizations
 
Lastpointe said:
I am not sure who they are transferring. They spoke about specially outfitting ambulances and helicopters so that doesn’t sound like they are transferring non infected people

logic says keep infections together to decrease spread. Practicality says that the staff working i big centers are burning out and need help. I would , if I was in charge, lol, I would ask for out of district doctors and nurses to come to big centers to work. At government expense put them up in hotels. But get the extra staff in to help. Transfer non Covid patients to “clean “ hospitals for regular surgery and regular hospitalizations
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Taking nurses and doctors out of other areas leaves those areas at a risk not just for Covid but other emergencies when there are already shortages of doctors and nurses everywhere.
We have 1,457 in hospital with Covid, 400 serious Covid and 244 of those patients are on ventilators in Ontario.....surely to God they can accomadate some of those 400 patients in other hospitals nearby?
There are 384 hospitals in Ontario.
There are 64 Covid patients in Toronto ICUs, includes 21 of those at Toronto general hospital and 11 at Sunnybrook Hospital. 17 in Brampton Civic Hospital and 16 at Mississaga Credit Hospital.
400 beds remain available province wide....so why pull doctors, just move the patients?
 
My concern about moving patients is that they risk spreading the infection around. Health care workers get infected despite PPE. Then they spread it within the community
I understand transferring patients , I did that a lot with NICU patients. The risk here is spreading the virus to communities that are fairly virus free.

my point was that if they are over run in the big city hospitals, they could transfer out non Covid patients to smaller centers. And if staffing is an issue bring staff in
 
Lastpointe said:
My concern about moving patients is that they risk spreading the infection around. Health care workers get infected despite PPE. Then they spread it within the community
I understand transferring patients , I did that a lot with NICU patients. The risk here is spreading the virus to communities that are fairly virus free.

my point was that if they are over run in the big city hospitals, they could transfer out non Covid patients to smaller centers. And if staffing is an issue bring staff in
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Except Covid ICU patients arent allowed visitors, so it doesnt matter where they are.
 
Waterfall said:
There are 384 hospitals in Ontario.
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I'm gonna guess that while this number is correct - it's quite likely that many are smaller hospitals in more rural communities. These hospitals are a whole different thing from what we who are in urban areas are accustomed to. They often don't have in-house labs, diagnostic imaging, rehab services, specialists, ICUs etc. that we urbanites may take for granted.
 
Waterfall said:
Except Covid ICU patients arent allowed visitors, so it doesnt matter where they are.
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It isn’t visitors that are the issue. It is health care workers themselves. AfterLTC patients they are among the most affected

and I would agree with Corolla. Our local hospital has one ventilator. Five maternity beds, two floors. I think about fifty beds. No CT scan. No pulmonary effusion. I doubt they have RTs. it is a non teaching hospital. Meaning no resident doctors, no nursing students, no physical students. Intended for the minor medical needs of the community. Any really ill patients are helicoptered to tertiary centers in cities. It is how our province is set up. Levels of hospitals in different centers to meet different needs
 
Carolla said:
I'm gonna guess that while this number is correct - it's quite likely that many are smaller hospitals in more rural communities. These hospitals are a whole different thing from what we who are in urban areas are accustomed to. They often don't have in-house labs, diagnostic imaging, rehab services, specialists, ICUs etc. that we urbanites may take for granted.
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Not sure if it's true in ON but here in urban areas there are hospitals that I think of as just being a department. Ie. The heart institute is a separate hospital from the U of A but I think of it as just being part of the U of A hospital. Rehab hospitals also lack many services.
 
I live in a town of 40,000....in March the hospital was practically empty while they awaited the "rush".....there was no such thing at that time. Nurses were saying there was not much to do.
They said they were prepared. I can understand the very small towns not being so and not every place being adequate......but many areas have built larger hospitals to service a greater rural area and shut down smaller ones.
 
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The last few days cases have been a bit higher again we were seeing 600s and now 800s 900s. Not sure why seems a little late for New Year's but could be. Or just people delaying testing because they know they weren't following the law? People returning to work after a Christmas break? Too soon for the school effects. Monday there's a bit of an easing of some rules - outdoor gatherings are allowed again which seems reasonable. Some businesses can start up again too tattoos salons etc. Not thrilled about that. Funerals get to go up to 20 which seems like a bad idea for indoors. It's known a group ignored the law about funerals and had an outbreak due to that.
 
I am mad at people who just ignore the law. 40% of cases are in the unknown category for how it was contracted. BS. Either there's many who are just blatantly ignoring the law or they won't fess up about breaking the law so they just lie and say gee no idea how I got it even though they know they were at a party and someone there tested positive or their kid went and played with a some others or something like that. 40% is ridiculous IMO. If I were to get sick now I know it would either be from a medical appointment or from Chemguy going to work - people just shouldn't have a bunch of possibilities of how they get it.
 
ChemGal said:
The last few days cases have been a bit higher again we were seeing 600s and now 800s 900s. Not sure why seems a little late for New Year's but could be. Or just people delaying testing because they know they weren't following the law? People returning to work after a Christmas break? Too soon for the school effects. Monday there's a bit of an easing of some rules - outdoor gatherings are allowed again which seems reasonable. Some businesses can start up again too tattoos salons etc. Not thrilled about that. Funerals get to go up to 20 which seems like a bad idea for indoors. It's known a group ignored the law about funerals and had an outbreak due to that.
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Do you think the new variants of Covid could have something to do with the numbers? Easier and faster transmission.
 
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Waterfall said:
Do you think the new variants of Covid could have something to do with the numbers? Easier and faster transmission.
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Yes although if new variants are responsible for the faster spread the sequencing testing would be picking up on a greater number right now it's a very small amount. I'm not sure what the current turn around time is. There is likely a delay between the sequencing testing and what's circulating. I would be surprised though if that's already the reason for the increase, but that's me not knowing the delay.
 
God we do miss common sense in the demos ... and in the purely elected angels as well ... as angels and demons take over the shadowlands ... imagine spotless polity!
 
Could it be this simple? A cholesterol drug that makes Covid 19 go away in 5 days? Further studies are still taking place but if this is true there would be no need for a vaccine and Covid would be reduced to be as common as a cold.

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