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BetteTheRed said:
But interestingly enough, I'd bet that most people use their phones to remind themselves where they'd been. First thing I'd do is open my google timeline.
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I was thinking about that the other day. If I had to tell someone where I'd been two weeks ago I'd look at my phone first. I thought that maybe keeping a journal might be a good idea. I'm not sure I'll actually act on that thought.
 
Northwind said:
I think they ask. There is no app in BC. They seem to use old fashioned, time tested methods.
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And that's something I think we can be much better at.
Even here with the app, if there was high usage, I don't think the 15 min timeframe is a good criteria. I would prefer there to be low, med & high likilhood of exposure. Someone runs past me on the stairs? I want that included, at least until we know more.
 
As for the pulmonary vs. cardiac thing @BetteTheRed I thought it was vascular and not cardiac although I can't reference it from what you've seen, just suggestions I've come across. It fits with things like COVID toes too.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
If short term use saves lives, wouldn’t that be better, even if there are side effects for some?
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Imagine if steroids cause stress ... as when stimulated do hormones rise? What happens with long term stress on your neighbour and miasma (surroundings)!

These things come and go until terminal ...
 
ChemGal said:
As for the pulmonary vs. cardiac thing @BetteTheRed I thought it was vascular and not cardiac although I can't reference it from what you've seen, just suggestions I've come across. It fits with things like COVID toes too.
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Yes, sorry, misquote, and vascular makes more sense with the strange strokes, as well.
 
I’ve never used my phone to remind myself where I’ve been.

And there are still some people who do not have smart phones or do not always take them everywhere, even if they have one. Especially seniors. My stepdad has a flip phone still, and he’s probably zipped around everywhere. So the app will be invasive but will still not pick up all contacts. It’s invasive because they only need contact tracing if there’s a case, but I don’t like the idea of govt entities watching everybody’s every move regardless. That’s just stalkerish and Big Brother creepy.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
I’ve never used my phone to remind myself where I’ve been.

And there are still some people who do not have smart phones or do not always take them everywhere, even if they have one. Especially seniors. My stepdad has a flip phone still, and he’s probably zipped around everywhere. So the app will be invasive but will still not pick up all contacts. It’s invasive because they only need contact tracing if there’s a case, but I don’t like the idea of govt entities watching everybody’s every move regardless. That’s just stalkerish and Big Brother creepy.
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They aren't watching everyone's move with the app.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
What they are doing is scaring people into believing this might be how it affects everybody. We have to be careful of media attempts to get people good and scared and under control without questioning.
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It is always interesting to note how @Kimmio Laughterlove can make a judgement call about a news report in a language she doesn’t speak and a source she is not familiar with just from a brief summary of the topic.
 
Mrs.Anteater said:
It is always interesting to note how @Kimmio Laughterlove can make a judgement call about a news report in a language she doesn’t speak and a source she is not familiar with just from a brief summary of the topic.
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I guess that’s on you. You told us about the one person in one article you read. Because of your interpretation and your summary I felt that it sounded like media was gossiping about one case, blowing the perspective out of proportion like they can do.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
I guess that’s on you. You told us about the one person in one article you read. Because of your interpretation and your summary I felt that it sounded like media was gossiping about one case, blowing the perspective out of proportion like they can do.
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And to me it sounded like she was referencing a case study.
 
The app can only watch people who have their phone on them, and blue-tooth enabled, I think. If you don't want any trace of you, leave your phone at home, or disable the blue-tooth?
 
And I forget sometimes, Kimmio, that you use apple products. I don't think there's an apple tracking device by default, like there is if you have google on your android.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
They have the ability to. You mentioned wanting to include the person who runs past you on the stairs. That’s creepy to me. First for covid, then for who knows what.
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Why? It doesn't tell me who. I would just get a notification of a possible exposure - low-risk. It's then my choice what I decide to do with that.

With measles we will say things like where you at blank between times x and y.
With something like the clinic I go to, I'm not concerned about everyone in the building - there are multiple clinics, diagnostics, etc. If there is someone there though for an ultrasound and they have COVID and we cross paths my clinic is likely not notified (nor should it have to be) but if I'm within a few feet of them as they run past me, I think it's reasonable to know that one of the people I was close to briefly has COVID.
 
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