Nova Scotia shootings

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BetteTheRed

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I was extremely happy, excited, uplifted by the new legislation banning assault rifles. I could not really understand negative responses.
 

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Saw a rather disturbing story on CBC, though. Apparently the fake police car the killer used actually had equipment on it that the officer he killed did not. Specifically, the push bar on the front bumper for handling collisions and ramming.


According to the article, use of the push bars is pretty variable among Canadian police forces. The OPP and Royal Newfoundland Constabulary put it on all marked vehicles, but a lot of municipal forces do not use it. The RCMP says some of its N.S. vehicles have them but haven't released figures.
 

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Yep, its all over the news this morning. I still think she didn’t have a chance, because the killer had no reluctance shooting people.
I was wondering, since he had so much RCMP gear, I can’t imagine that he didn’t have a radio to listen into the police conversations. Nobody has made any mention of it.
 

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The RCMP released a bunch of information on the investigation. Among other details, only one of his 4 guns was obtained in Canada and the decals for the fake police car were made on the sly by an employee of the place that made them and the owner didn't know.

I wonder if the "decal" maker will be charged for aiding and abetting a crime? Does it bring up the possibility that he wasn't working alone?

Still wondering about the RCMP officers that shot into an empty Fire Hall.
 

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I wonder if the "decal" maker will be charged for aiding and abetting a crime? Does it bring up the possibility that he wasn't working alone?

Still wondering about the RCMP officers that shot into an empty Fire Hall.
I suspect the employee who made the decals could be in a heap of trouble, though they say both the owner and the employee are cooperating.
 

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I would like to hear more about the officer who shot him. I am amazed how he judged the situation and reacted right, despite the shooter using a car that was not known to the police and having changed into plain clothes.
 

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I would like to hear more about the officer who shot him. I am amazed how he judged the situation and reacted right, despite the shooter using a car that was not known to the police and having changed into plain clothes.
Just imagine how long this could have gone on if not for him.
 
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Update. Some arguments against McLeans conspiracy theory of him having been an informant.
So investigative reporting by MacLeans is a conspiracy theory? You could say, there may be holes in the story, instead. Of course it's going to be disputed by the Mounties. Their word against the reporter's, true or not.

Why would one of our oldest most reputable news magazines put themselves on the line with a totally bogus, unchecked, story? That's really out of character for them.

None of the high level officials in government or police would want to admit they made a huge mistake if they hired an unhinged informant and ignored red flags. The RCMP will want to damage control bad press - and CBC sat on the story so as not to face public funding issues, then did what they were told, perhaps?
 
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When the Washington Post cracked the Watergate story, how many thought it was a conspiracy theory? Conspiracy theories don't come from reputable sources, they come from fringe tabloids and blogs and are made up.
 
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It would've been a lot better if he was under scrutiny for making an exact replica car out of an auctioned police vehicle. Isn't that illegal? It should be. It should at least raise eyebrows that the police would take note of. That and his collection of auctioned police cars. Why was that just left alone? Where'd he get the uniform? Unless he sewed it himself, somebody knew he had it. Plus people knew about the car, and that he owned guns. Those things together should be worrisome.
 
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one of our oldest most reputable news magazines
Honestly, having read McLeans for a while, I would not give them that high mark. The style tends to be quite sensational. I would compare it to “Der Stern” - a German magazine which has similar style and long history and once in a while discovers something of importance but also has had its share of reporters making up things for the sake of sensation. It sources are frequently “ unnamed”, that should raise some red flags.
 
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Honestly, having read McLeans for a while, I would not give them that high mark. The style tends to be quite sensational. I would compare it to “Der Stern” - a German magazine which has similar style and long history and once in a while discovers something of importance but also has had its share of reporters making up things for the sake of sensation. It sources are frequently “ unnamed”, that should raise some red flags.
Fair enough, that's your opinion. They rate consistently high in the fact checking department. Real journalists do not have to reveal their sources and sources ask to be unnamed if it could put their life on the line or attract unwanted attention. It doesn't mean they are making stuff up. Sometimes they interview criminals to get story leads and the only way they can get the story is through a confidential source. Or, they interview other unnamed sources who are decent people whose lives could be ruined if their names were exposed.

RCMP also do not have to reveal their use of informants. My understanding from what I learned recently is they are legally allowed to mislead the public about it, unless they have to testify in court.
 
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I think the money thing is a red herring, personally, and that MacLean's followed it down what was probably a rabbit hole.

He had his own business, and one which we all know, produces/turns over quite a bit of cash (being in convo to replace with something the tooth that was removed Tuesday, I can tell you that good fake teeth are not inexpensive). He kept his money with Brinks because he was a small business, and from what I hear, was frightened into moving it into cash because of Covid-related economic predictions.
 

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The Canadian taxpayer should not have to fund the abomination that the CBC has been for decades.
I disagree quite strongly with this statement. I consider the CBC an oasis of sanity in a sea of profit-driven media confusion. Now, if I were in the U.K., I could enjoy the BBC, which has a similar, although stronger, influence there.
 

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I disagree quite strongly with this statement. I consider the CBC an oasis of sanity in a sea of profit-driven media confusion. Now, if I were in the U.K., I could enjoy the BBC, which has a similar, although stronger, influence there.
I agree. CBC has professional journalists and in spite of what some would say, is pretty balanced, especially as compared to other media outlets.
 
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