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Here is the thing for me ------only One Heavenly Father with 3 functions who desires a Relationship not a Religion -----
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And I would say it is both a religion and a relationship.
You may want to read James 1:26-27.
James 1:26–27
Religion holds us all together (much like a marriage) and is another way to do covenant. Can you have a relationship outside of God's covenant?
BetteTheRed
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I don't think you can "do" Jesus without entering into a relationship around this "doing" that involves a faith community. Many years shadowing the AA community has taught me that solo interpretations are almost inevitably rationalized "stinking thinking"...
just a side note....."stinking thinking" always reminds me of Joyce Meyer....who was part of my first serious steps in Christianity......thankfully she was just one step that has since been left behind, but recognized as part of my process to learn more.
BetteTheRed
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I think she's a favourite of my ex-stepmother-in-law's, a favourite friend of mine with whom I travel to Montreal each summer. We have an unofficial practice that we rotate my music CD's or radio stations with a few of her favourite "sermon series on CD". I'm sure I've heard of Joyce under those circumstances. It gives rise to some gently interesting conversations.
Does God ... as interminably scattered ... encompass all things except those that like to isolate the God head and don't share such cognizance and thus remain uncomfortable points about rendering ...
Then Jude put god in a box and called it a temple ... it was stuck on the top end of a mortal uprising ... and thus it stood ... homo sapiens (common wisdom) when interpreted in archetypical manna that's old! But alas just another word to be redacted ... just to support the unknowing and those preferring the abstract! Tis a dark creeping power that can extract your thoughts in the night and unconsciously reorganize 'hem!
Sight unseen ... sum ade light may be extracted parallel as a damp aspiration ...
Then Jude put god in a box and called it a temple ... it was stuck on the top end of a mortal uprising ... and thus it stood ... homo sapiens (common wisdom) when interpreted in archetypical manna that's old! But alas just another word to be redacted ... just to support the unknowing and those preferring the abstract! Tis a dark creeping power that can extract your thoughts in the night and unconsciously reorganize 'hem!
Sight unseen ... sum ade light may be extracted parallel as a damp aspiration ...
unsafe
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Waterfall ---your quote ------And I would say it is both a religion and a relationship.
You may want to read James 1:26-27.
James 1:26–27
Religion holds us all togeth
unsafe says ----I believe your grasping at straws with your statements here -----And I would say it is both a religion and a relationship.and this Statement you make here -----Religion holds us all togeth
First off Christianity which is the Religion you speak of I would say -------was Formed by Man not God -----it first appears in the New Testament AT Antioch ----
Acts 11 -AMP
25 And Barnabas left for Tarsus to search for Saul;
26 and when he found him, he brought him back to Antioch. For an entire year they met [with others] in the church and instructed large numbers; and it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called Christians.
Second -----I challenge you to find me a scripture where Jesus ever said ----Follow my Religion of Christianity because that is the only Religion I follow -----
Third ---Christianity like all Religions have rules and regulations that their Church has to Follow -----So Man Made Religions bind the church into their traditions and their beliefs ------they outcast certain people and divide people ------there is no unity in Christianity in my view -----
Fourth ----God accepts all people who want to have a Relationship with Him ----there is no division or religion in having a relationship with God ---all who Receive His Free gift of having a Relationship with Him have the same benefits ------
So needles to say I strongly disagree with your statements above ------
Your Quote -----You may want to read James 1:26-27.
unsafe says and posted scripture ------you may want to understand what this is saying ------James 1:26–27
This scripture is all about how to Worship God ----it is definitely not saying that Religion holds people together -----where you get that from this scripture --I have no idea
James 1 (ERV)
The True Way to Worship God
26 You might think you are a very religious person. But if your tongue is out of control, you are fooling yourself. Your careless talk makes your offerings to God worthless.
27 The worship that God wants is this: caring for orphans or widows who need help and keeping yourself free from the world’s evil influence. This is the kind of worship that God accepts as pure and good.
unsafe says -----
A Relationship with Christ now gives us Grace to call on to keep us free from error of sin and gives us control of the tongue ------Religion gives us no restraint -----it encourages competition and an out of control tongue -------- My Religion is the right one ---your Religion is Crap and False---your gay and you are not excepted in our Religion ----your a Polygamist and you are not accepted in our Religion ---Etc --Etc
You may want to read James 1:26-27.
James 1:26–27
Religion holds us all togeth
unsafe says ----I believe your grasping at straws with your statements here -----And I would say it is both a religion and a relationship.and this Statement you make here -----Religion holds us all togeth
First off Christianity which is the Religion you speak of I would say -------was Formed by Man not God -----it first appears in the New Testament AT Antioch ----
Acts 11 -AMP
25 And Barnabas left for Tarsus to search for Saul;
26 and when he found him, he brought him back to Antioch. For an entire year they met [with others] in the church and instructed large numbers; and it was in Antioch that the disciples were first called Christians.
Second -----I challenge you to find me a scripture where Jesus ever said ----Follow my Religion of Christianity because that is the only Religion I follow -----
Third ---Christianity like all Religions have rules and regulations that their Church has to Follow -----So Man Made Religions bind the church into their traditions and their beliefs ------they outcast certain people and divide people ------there is no unity in Christianity in my view -----
Fourth ----God accepts all people who want to have a Relationship with Him ----there is no division or religion in having a relationship with God ---all who Receive His Free gift of having a Relationship with Him have the same benefits ------
So needles to say I strongly disagree with your statements above ------
Your Quote -----You may want to read James 1:26-27.
unsafe says and posted scripture ------you may want to understand what this is saying ------James 1:26–27
This scripture is all about how to Worship God ----it is definitely not saying that Religion holds people together -----where you get that from this scripture --I have no idea
James 1 (ERV)
The True Way to Worship God
26 You might think you are a very religious person. But if your tongue is out of control, you are fooling yourself. Your careless talk makes your offerings to God worthless.
27 The worship that God wants is this: caring for orphans or widows who need help and keeping yourself free from the world’s evil influence. This is the kind of worship that God accepts as pure and good.
unsafe says -----
A Relationship with Christ now gives us Grace to call on to keep us free from error of sin and gives us control of the tongue ------Religion gives us no restraint -----it encourages competition and an out of control tongue -------- My Religion is the right one ---your Religion is Crap and False---your gay and you are not excepted in our Religion ----your a Polygamist and you are not accepted in our Religion ---Etc --Etc
We just believe differently that's all. Have a great day.
dreamerman
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Wait, I thought that was unsafe's go to line. I didn't know others could use it.
unsafe
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dreamerman ----your quote -----Wait, I thought that was unsafe's go to line. I didn't know others could use it.
I am very flattered that others would use my line ----it must mean they really took notice and like using my line instead of using a line they thought of themselves -----
I think it is call A
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I am very flattered that others would use my line ----it must mean they really took notice and like using my line instead of using a line they thought of themselves -----
I think it is call A
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When in Rome.......dreamerman ----your quote -----Wait, I thought that was unsafe's go to line. I didn't know others could use it.
I am very flattered that others would use my line ----it must mean they really took notice and like using my line instead of using a line they thought of themselves -----
I think it is call A
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I call it speaking a language that you seem to understand...Waterfall ---your quote -----When in Rome.......
Let me finish it for you ---Do as the Romans Do ----
-Again we call it A
-----we must like what the Romans do enough to do the same -----
Waterfall ---your quote -----When in Rome.......
Let me finish it for you ---Do as the Romans Do ----
-Again we call it A
-----we must like what the Romans do enough to do the same -----
One put down deserves another elimination? So reactive ... natural and passive is so unnatural as in observed thought ...
revsdd
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Some interesting discussion last week. I was very late getting this week's devotional written - very busy week - but I've chosen to follow up a reflection on the "in the beginning" of Genesis 1:1 with the "in the beginning" of John 1:1.
My Faith Thoughts: A Thought For The Week Of January 8, 2018
My Faith Thoughts: A Thought For The Week Of January 8, 2018
IO Sues may be a buried understanding of the word ... as knowing is discouraged by God ... passions can do that to yah ... thus John ... Dunne ... who's had it dude tome ... as novel doings !
Some Roman Senator stated that once one was screwed we'd all be Dunne and thus the tanned hue ... for those of us not suffering whitewashing indoctrination ...
Some Roman Senator stated that once one was screwed we'd all be Dunne and thus the tanned hue ... for those of us not suffering whitewashing indoctrination ...
unsafe
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This is an interesting comparison of John --1John and Genesis -------this is from this sight see all at link below -----
Who is Jesus according to John the Apostle? | CARM.org
John's concept of Jesus begins with the introductions of his gospel (John 1:1-14) and his first epistle (1 John 1:1-10). It is not a mere coincidence that John writes in such parallel to the opening chapters of Genesis. Undoubtedly, John's opinion of Jesus was sufficient to equate him with God's creative work of "in the beginning." Let's look.
Gospel of John ----------1 John -----------------Genesis
John ----------In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the Word was God 2He was in the beginning with God," (1:12).
1 John -------"What was from the beginning, what we have heard what we have seen with our eyes, what we behold and our hands handled concerning the word, . . " (1:1a).
Genesis----"In the beginning. . ." (1:1a)
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John ------"All things came into being by Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being," (1:3)
Genesis -----" . . . God created the heavens and the earth," (1:1b)
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John ---"4In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it . . . " (1:4-5).
1John -----
". . . of life" (1:1b).
" . . .God is light and in Him there is no darkness," (1:5).
" . . . the darkness is passing away, and the true light is already shining," (2:8).
Genesis ------"Then God said, 'Let there be light'; and there was light. And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness," (1:3-4)
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John -----and the word became flesh and dwelt among us. . ." (1:14).
1John ----- "and the life was manifested and we have seen and bear witness and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us . . . " (1:2)
Genesis -----"And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day. . ."(3:8).
The parallels between the gospel of John, 1 John, and Genesis are immediately evident. The terminology is very similar. The themes are almost identical. Obviously, John considers Jesus to be of preeminent importance and uses many figures of speech equated with God. But John does not abandon the thematic comparison between the Word and God after the opening chapters. He continues to show the divine qualities of Jesus throughout his writings.
Who is Jesus according to John the Apostle? | CARM.org
John's concept of Jesus begins with the introductions of his gospel (John 1:1-14) and his first epistle (1 John 1:1-10). It is not a mere coincidence that John writes in such parallel to the opening chapters of Genesis. Undoubtedly, John's opinion of Jesus was sufficient to equate him with God's creative work of "in the beginning." Let's look.
Gospel of John ----------1 John -----------------Genesis
John ----------In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the Word was God 2He was in the beginning with God," (1:12).
1 John -------"What was from the beginning, what we have heard what we have seen with our eyes, what we behold and our hands handled concerning the word, . . " (1:1a).
Genesis----"In the beginning. . ." (1:1a)
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John ------"All things came into being by Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being," (1:3)
Genesis -----" . . . God created the heavens and the earth," (1:1b)
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John ---"4In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it . . . " (1:4-5).
1John -----
". . . of life" (1:1b).
" . . .God is light and in Him there is no darkness," (1:5).
" . . . the darkness is passing away, and the true light is already shining," (2:8).
Genesis ------"Then God said, 'Let there be light'; and there was light. And God saw that the light was good; and God separated the light from the darkness," (1:3-4)
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John -----and the word became flesh and dwelt among us. . ." (1:14).
1John ----- "and the life was manifested and we have seen and bear witness and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us . . . " (1:2)
Genesis -----"And they heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day. . ."(3:8).
The parallels between the gospel of John, 1 John, and Genesis are immediately evident. The terminology is very similar. The themes are almost identical. Obviously, John considers Jesus to be of preeminent importance and uses many figures of speech equated with God. But John does not abandon the thematic comparison between the Word and God after the opening chapters. He continues to show the divine qualities of Jesus throughout his writings.