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Movie critics typically rate movies by stars. Rotten Tomatoes rates them, yes, by fresh or rotten tomatoes. But we need a 3rd category--hankies. I went to see "Miracles from Heaven" tonight, the true story of a mind boggling healing miracle. I can't recall the woman here who raved about Jennifer Garner's acting as the Mom, but wow, was she great. There was sobbing and nose honking in the theater. I hope no one saw the tears in my eyes! :( I'd rate it as a "4 hanky weeper."
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in the movie called my life:

yesterday a complete stranger (not right away, but after getting to know each other better first) layed hands on me and asked Jesus to heal my stuttering :3

lots of interesting Christian 'g_d' things have been happening lately

now i'm like 'ok, i become a Christian...but which denomination? there are so many, and so many i am at odds with what i grok of their theology..."

SHOPPING!!!
 
Inanna, you know that I'm an academic. But I also have a Pentecostal background and have experienced most of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. One of the wisest sayings ever spoken in my presence is this gem: In life theology is the booby prize; it gives you just enough spirituality to inoculate you against the real thing. The real thing is powerful mystical experience--mind-bending oneness with God, wave after wave of liquid love surging through your being, useful paranormally imparted knowledge, and, of course, healings and other miracles. Typically, the people who experience and impart such gifts are limited in the profundity of their theological, philosophical reflection. But only the rich experiential dimension of the Christian life is truly compelling.

So I'd seek a church or fellowship that revels in God presence, not God ideation. And that leads me to a second crucial principle: second hand spirituality is a pathetic substitute for the real thing. But the real thing will normally only be found in unsophisticated circles of people who live for ,mystical experiences and whose social engagement flows out of the joy and energy of those experiences.

Smith Wigglesworth was probably the most gifted Christian faith healer who ever lived. Yet he was by trade a plumber, a very crude and blunt man who actually punched women in the stomach to heal their stomach cancer. The offended women stalked away in a huff, only to return a few days later, asking for forgiveness and testifying the healing power of that faith-based punch! There are well documented cases of Wigglesworth even rasing the dead! Yet the Bible is the only book this uneducated man ever read. But I'll take his charisma and spiritual power over correct thinking spiritual intellectuals any time. Friends have witnessed his charisma, but unfortunately he died well before I was born.
 
Inanna, you know that I'm an academic. But I also have a Pentecostal background and have experienced most of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. One of the wisest sayings ever spoken in my presence is this gem: In life theology is the booby prize; it gives you just enough spirituality to inoculate you against the real thing. The real thing is powerful mystical experience--mind-bending oneness with God, wave after wave of liquid love surging through your being, useful paranormally imparted knowledge, and, of course, healings and other miracles. Typically, the people who experience and impart such gifts are limited in the profundity of their theological, philosophical reflection. But only the rich experiential dimension of the Christian life is truly compelling.

So I'd seek a church or fellowship that revels in God presence, not God ideation. And that leads me to a second crucial principle: second hand spirituality is a pathetic substitute for the real thing. But the real thing will normally only be found in unsophisticated circles of people who live for ,mystical experiences and whose social engagement flows out of the joy and energy of those experiences.

Smith Wigglesworth was probably the most gifted Christian faith healer who ever lived. Yet he was by trade a plumber, a very crude and blunt man who actually punched women in the stomach to heal their stomach cancer. The offended women stalked away in a huff, only to return a few days later, asking for forgiveness and testifying the healing power of that faith-based punch! There are well documented cases of Wigglesworth even rasing the dead! Yet the Bible is the only book this uneducated man ever read. But I'll take his charisma and spiritual power over correct thinking spiritual intellectuals any time. Friends have witnessed his charisma, but unfortunately he died well before I was born.

Punch & Julian? Tis a Roman faith spread through Latinism ... D'rump hates it as an import ... can create quite a Ðango ... endanglement in the danse in Paris ... thus it hangs ...
 
Inanna, you know that I'm an academic. But I also have a Pentecostal background and have experienced most of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. One of the wisest sayings ever spoken in my presence is this gem: In life theology is the booby prize; it gives you just enough spirituality to inoculate you against the real thing. The real thing is powerful mystical experience--mind-bending oneness with God, wave after wave of liquid love surging through your being, useful paranormally imparted knowledge, and, of course, healings and other miracles. Typically, the people who experience and impart such gifts are limited in the profundity of their theological, philosophical reflection. But only the rich experiential dimension of the Christian life is truly compelling.

So I'd seek a church or fellowship that revels in God presence, not God ideation. And that leads me to a second crucial principle: second hand spirituality is a pathetic substitute for the real thing. But the real thing will normally only be found in unsophisticated circles of people who live for ,mystical experiences and whose social engagement flows out of the joy and energy of those experiences.

Smith Wigglesworth was probably the most gifted Christian faith healer who ever lived. Yet he was by trade a plumber, a very crude and blunt man who actually punched women in the stomach to heal their stomach cancer. The offended women stalked away in a huff, only to return a few days later, asking for forgiveness and testifying the healing power of that faith-based punch! There are well documented cases of Wigglesworth even rasing the dead! Yet the Bible is the only book this uneducated man ever read. But I'll take his charisma and spiritual power over correct thinking spiritual intellectuals any time. Friends have witnessed his charisma, but unfortunately he died well before I was born.

Wonderful Mystic. And this all pertains to movies... how exactly? Did you see a movie of Wigglesworth's life that you'd care to recommend?
 
Wonderful Mystic. And this all pertains to movies... how exactly? Did you see a movie of Wigglesworth's life that you'd care to recommend?

To be fair, he is responding to Inanna's post above him which is really what went off topic.
 
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yesterday a complete stranger (not right away, but after getting to know each other better first) layed hands on me and asked Jesus to heal my stuttering :3 [/QUOTE]

Inanna, I wrote my last post quickly because I had to rush out to attend a memorial service. So I forgot the main reason why I mentioned Smith Wigglesworth in my post. He is clearly the most renowned, if ghastly unorthodox, Christian faith healer of the last 200 years. But his transformation from shy aloof Christian to bold eccentrtc healer happened through his experience of "the baptism of the Holy Spirit, an experience that cured a serious stuttering problem. Check out this video take on his life:

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=smith wigglesworth youtube&view=detail&mid=C9D8EB78DC53E20AC351C9D8EB78DC53E20AC351&FORM=VIRE

He is most famous for raising the dead in the presence of witnesses. Modern faith healers try to continue his mantle, but can't even come close to achieving his well verified results. Yet he was theological primitive and in some ways misguided. The Bible was the only book he ever read. He could never have become as famous as he became, while being as crude and blunt as we was, wtthout consistently spectacular results. The video provides a good taste of what he was like.
 
Inanna, I wrote my last post quickly because I had to rush out to attend a memorial service. So I forgot the main reason why I mentioned Smith Wigglesworth in my post. He is clearly the most renowned, if ghastly unorthodox, Christian faith healer of the last 200 years. But his transformation from shy aloof Christian to bold eccentrtc healer happened through his experience of "the baptism of the Holy Spirit, an experience that cured a serious stuttering problem. Check out this video take on his life:

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=smith wigglesworth youtube&view=detail&mid=C9D8EB78DC53E20AC351C9D8EB78DC53E20AC351&FORM=VIRE

He is most famous for raising the dead in the presence of witnesses. Modern faith healers try to continue his mantle, but can't even come close to achieving his well verified results. Yet he was theological primitive and in some ways misguided. The Bible was the only book he ever read. He could never have become as famous as he became, while being as crude and blunt as we was, wtthout consistently spectacular results. The video provides a good taste of what he was like.
The baptism of the Holy Spirit. A wonderful thing. I'll make a new thread.
 
I went and saw The Jungle Book last night and found it a good correction to the previous animated version.

Mind you, they probably couldn't ignore everything and not face some kind of revolt. If you are a fan of Bear Necessities and I Want To Be Like You then rest easy, you get your concessions.

For the Kipling faithful you get yours as well.

Biggest shock of the night was joining in The Law of the Jungle as the pack recited it (no, they do not go all the way), "This is the law of the jungle, as old and as true as the sky. The wolf that shall keep it shall prosper and the wolf that shall break it will die. . ." Once again, Scouting is profitable.

The movie relies very heavily on CGI and the animators deserve all the praise directed their way, they do an amazing job.

Shere Khan (voiced by Idris Elba) is tremendously menacing and his first appearance makes you jump.

Sir Ben Kingsley gives Bagheera the dignity properly befitting a Lord of the Jungle.

Bill Murray is spot on as Baloo.

Christopher Walken is great as King Louie.

Scarlet Johansson is decently Kaa though the movie would have fared just as well without either.

Garry Shandling's final role as Ikki is probably the most consistent laugh of the movie.

Neel Sethi is a convincingly precocious Mowgli.

Mowgli's story, through Kipling's eyes is one of family. Finding it, fighting for it, with it and betrayed by it. We don't get all of that in this version but we do see the struggle with belonging though Mowgli's separation from the pack in the film is noble self-sacrifice intended to save the Pack from Shere Khan's menace. Never mind that Akela is ultimately killed by Shere Khan (very different take from the book) in a fit of rage.

I thought it was well worth the price of admission.
 
I went and saw The Jungle Book last night and found it a good correction to the previous animated version.

Mind you, they probably couldn't ignore everything and not face some kind of revolt. If you are a fan of Bear Necessities and I Want To Be Like You then rest easy, you get your concessions.

For the Kipling faithful you get yours as well.

Biggest shock of the night was joining in The Law of the Jungle as the pack recited it (no, they do not go all the way), "This is the law of the jungle, as old and as true as the sky. The wolf that shall keep it shall prosper and the wolf that shall break it will die. . ." Once again, Scouting is profitable.

The movie relies very heavily on CGI and the animators deserve all the praise directed their way, they do an amazing job.

Shere Khan (voiced by Idris Elba) is tremendously menacing and his first appearance makes you jump.

Sir Ben Kingsley gives Bagheera the dignity properly befitting a Lord of the Jungle.

Bill Murray is spot on as Baloo.

Christopher Walken is great as King Louie.

Scarlet Johansson is decently Kaa though the movie would have fared just as well without either.

Garry Shandling's final role as Ikki is probably the most consistent laugh of the movie.

Neel Sethi is a convincingly precocious Mowgli.

Mowgli's story, through Kipling's eyes is one of family. Finding it, fighting for it, with it and betrayed by it. We don't get all of that in this version but we do see the struggle with belonging though Mowgli's separation from the pack in the film is noble self-sacrifice intended to save the Pack from Shere Khan's menace. Never mind that Akela is ultimately killed by Shere Khan (very different take from the book) in a fit of rage.

I thought it was well worth the price of admission.

Like anima sin the head ... could lead to an amuse 'n beginning to something else again ... thus the story goes on ... once the lie of the dunking was initiated ...
 
I went and saw The Jungle Book last night and found it a good correction to the previous animated version.

Glad you enjoyed it John. It's one I want to see - possibly next-next Tuesday. While the movie is, perhaps, most accurate to the book, there are - as I'm sure you know having seen it - still differences. To name but a few... the kind of animal King Louie is... the inclusion of King Louie at all... the kind of bear Baloo is... the gender of Kaa...

revjohn said:
Mind you, they probably couldn't ignore everything and not face some kind of revolt. If you are a fan of Bear Necessities and I Want To Be Like You then rest easy, you get your concessions.

Ah yes, that too.

revjohn said:
Bill Murray is spot on as Baloo.

His is the voice I'm dreading most hearing in the new film. I loved Baloo in the animated movie, and I want to see Baloo on screen - not Bill Murray. Recently I saw a video on YouTube of Bill Murray singing Bear Necessities on a late night talk show. I was not impressed.
 
Pr. Jae said:
the kind of animal King Louie is... the inclusion of King Louie at all

Very true. In the book the monkeys are identified as Bandar-log and the reason why they are looked down upon by the rest of the jungle creatures is because they have no king and therefore no sense of social order. In the animated version Louie was an orangutang (never mind that the orangutang is not native to India). This time around, while there are some definite hints of orangutang Louie proclaims himself to be a Gigantopithicus.

While the range of Gigantopithicus does include India it is important to note that Gigantopithicus, as a species, has been extinct for 100 thousand years. That said, the 3 m height made it a monster mammal and the movie captures that very, very well.

Pr. Jae said:
... the kind of bear Baloo is

Also true. Kipling's description of Baloo points most accurately to the Sloth Bear and the bear from the movie looks more like a Kodiak.

Pr. Jae said:
... the gender of Kaa

If this offends anyone more than repeating the animated heresy of making Kaa one of Mowgli's antagonists rather than leaving Kaa as one of Mowgli's protectors and advisors someone needs to get their act together. Four heros rescue Mowgli from the Bander-log. Bagheera, Baloo, Kaa and Chil.

Poor Chil, ignored again.

I suspect the studio threw Scarlet into this role just to avoid criticism that the cast is male heavy.

Lupito Nyong'o as Raksha could have had heavier play.

Pr. Jae said:
His is the voice I'm dreading most hearing in the new film. I loved Baloo in the animated movie, and I want to see Baloo on screen - not Bill Murray.


Have no fear. Bill Murray is a talented actor and you get a genuine Baloo not Bill Murray, SNL alumnus, wearing a Baloo shirt.

Pr. Jae said:
Recently I saw a video on YouTube of Bill Murray singing Bear Necessities on a late night talk show. I was not impressed.

Well, he is no Phil Harris but he does an admirable job. I imagine hours with a soundmixer produces a better result than just tossing the man a microphone.

Christopher Walken surprises as King Louie singing I Want To Be Like You particularly during the closing credits.
 
Very true. In the book the monkeys are identified as Bandar-log and the reason why they are looked down upon by the rest of the jungle creatures is because they have no king and therefore no sense of social order. In the animated version Louie was an orangutang (never mind that the orangutang is not native to India). This time around, while there are some definite hints of orangutang Louie proclaims himself to be a Gigantopithicus.

While the range of Gigantopithicus does include India it is important to note that Gigantopithicus, as a species, has been extinct for 100 thousand years. That said, the 3 m height made it a monster mammal and the movie captures that very, very well.

Gigantopithecus' closest living relative is the orangutan (I love orangs, just not as much as gorillas) so the hints of orang are justified, in fact. Weird that they would actually bother to resurrect an extinct species in a movie like this, though, rather than just making Louie a generic "ape" or not worrying about it at all. It's the kind of attention to detail that you would not normally expect from a Disney kids' movie. Of course, some hypothesize that the Yeti (if it exists at all) is a surviving species of Gigantopithecus so maybe the writers and Favreau had that in mind as well? After all, the Himalayas aren't that far removed from the scene of the action in the Jungle Book.
 
@Inannawhimsey seems to be rubbing off on me. I've now started watching the vast library of short films floating around on Youtube, too.

A couple I've liked:


This one won quite a few awards at festivals and such. Nice creepy little horror movie.


Very well made blend of military s-f and space fantasy. I'd love to see a feature-length version of this one that fleshes out both the story and the universe it takes place in.
 
A short.on our very near future (this couldve also.have gone.into the ai.n.religion thread)
Imagine being able to attend several sermons at once and edit thèm in real time to your filters so revjohn would sound like Brian Blessed and Seeler would look like Angela Bassett? This is part of the global spiritual marketplace
 
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One has to love strange, devilish things ... say so biblically!

So it goes ... and real people hate the virtue O'sity ... that's the truth ... like J' Roue's A'Lem!

Anybody know the ancient word ... "LEM"? It's a thumper ...
 
In NFLD a dori is a place to float an outlander ... interpretation varies! Goes on in out ports ...

Such spectres are ghosts of th'oughts that should've been retained but due to passionate pauses ... were not ... as the modern medium despises old things like ancient wisdom that can be hammered into shape easier than a' mon ...

Poe'm I'z sole ... thus Ba'aL aD's a bout bode an concepts ... out of the Ox Ford ... where the Anglos went to read into old tomes ... thus the rhode away symptom ... and the "p" is silent in the night ... causing whetting of ABBA'd stuff ... when well laid out in ab leep ... about what do we know ... nothing? A kind of ab-sent state? You can see it in their eye's when they are off somewhere ...

Tis tough as funny coin ... har moni in quartered fore (4) time?
 
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Terrific short based on a short story by Daniel H. Wilson, author of the best-selling s-f novel Robopocalypse.

 
A jem of a lens applied to the dead visionary? Perhaps once spelt as Jinn as a hex ... such is light energy .. a strange of queer physical incarnation ... all considered?
 
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