Meanwhile in Canada

[WhyCzar]

Pressures from the US’s zero tolerance policy, border control, and the condition of our relationship with them on unpredictable ground being other possibilities. I’m thinking Carney’s probably looking for the easiest places to find common ground with Trump that won’t get too much overall public disagreement.

When in doubt blame Trump.

 

[Luce NDs]

Then we return to the question of why was the unspeakable name elected ... a numbing process?

Alas under certain regimes the populace better not meditate on that qualm! Very complex the resolution and it gets deeper every day as we sink ...

From no-where a comment: "will someone put complexity on ignore". Thus the unpredictability ... due to lack of info, intelligence, data and other stuff ... allowing for we didn't want to know in the first place (subjectively)! Forget the object , etc. for we're going nowhere ... logical fallacy?

 

[WhyCzar]

Then we return to the question of why was the unspeakable name elected ... a numbing process?

 

[WhyCzar]

A TransAmerican? Good show

A North American with a burner phone under an alias using a prepaid bought with crypto? No show.

 

[Luce NDs]

Winners are powers ... the alternate is far weaker and humble ... there are a flood of metaphors for this ode idea! Best to enter the opposing chaos ... whatever could that be in relation to an overblown will?

 

[WhyCzar]

I would like Alberta to move towards independence and become a free from Ottawa independent Country as soon as possible.

Premier Smith announced last night that Alberta independence is going to take more time to process.

She announced that rather than have an up or down vote on Oct 19th of this year, instead there will be a vote either to stay with Canada or to give instruction to the gov of AB to move forward with a binding referendum on independence.

Her explanation for why is that the unusual decision from the court of King's bench in the Sylvester petition case has in a problematic way enlarged the notion of duly elected gov duty to consult FN.

The normal test if a gov is about to approve a land use decision that can impact FN traditional rights is there is a duty on gov to get input from FN to mitigate impact.

There is not nor has there ever been a right of FN to veto projects in law or under the constitution and Smith is right to appeal the undemocratic ruling in favor of a subset of the population having to be consulted before the question has even been asked.

Anyway, at this stage of the process there will be no clear vote on a clear question so that AB can have control over its own self determination to become a new nation on the Oct referendum.

If Smith would have announced the stay leave question almost certainly some groups would have brought a legal challenge.

The independence movement has still a steep hill to climb but I think The Carney party policy failures will convince more and more Albertans to move over the line towards independence going forward.

So that pretty much wraps up my interest in Canadian politics for now.

 

[GordW]

I would like Alberta to move towards independence and become a free from Ottawa independent Country as soon as possible.

Premier Smith announced last night that Alberta independence is going to take more time to process.

She announced that rather than have an up or down vote on Oct 19th of this year, instead there will be a vote either to stay with Canada or to give instruction to the gov of AB to move forward with a binding referendum on independence.

Her explanation for why is that the unusual decision from the court of King's bench in the Sylvester petition case has in a problematic way enlarged the notion of duly elected gov duty to consult FN.

The normal test if a gov is about to approve a land use decision that can impact FN traditional rights is there is a duty on gov to get input from FN to mitigate impact.

There is not nor has there ever been a right of FN to veto projects in law or under the constitution and Smith is right to appeal the undemocratic ruling in favor of a subset of the population having to be consulted.

Anyway, at this stage of the process there will be no clear vote on a clear question so that AB can have control over its own self determination to become a new nation on the Oct referendum.

If Smith would have announced the stay leave question almost certainly some groups would have brought a legal challenge.

The independence movement has still a steep hill to climb but I think The Carney party policy failures will convince more and more Albertans to move over the line towards independence going forward.

So that pretty much wraps up my interest in Canadian politics for now.

So you want Albertans to destroy their future?

 

[Mendalla]

She announced that rather than have an up or down vote on Oct 19th of this year, instead there will be a vote either to stay with Canada or to give instruction to the gov of AB to move forward with a binding referendum on independence.

Which is the most dumbass thing I have heard yet from this whole schmozzle. Just have the referendum, damn it. Voting on whether to vote is ridiculous.

As for the court decision, she should just wait until she sees how the appeal goes instead of doing something half-assed to try to please both sides that will ultimately please neither.

While I get what the court is saying, I kind of wish they hadn't gone the route they did. It is not going to stop this, just prolong it. A one and done vote this Fall that would likely end up as a remain vote given current polling would be the best for all, including the indigenous nations.