How does one "choose" a Belief System?

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blackbelt1961 said:
you just nailed it :) born again
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Sure, OK, so you have a "mystical" experience. Doesn't just "where (or the circumstances under which) you had this mystical experience" colour how you translate it into your BS? Say you're a little Buddhist boy in a village in China; no Christians around, no Christian context or education (I know you're Italian - you're sort of steeped in Catholicism as a culture). Under very different circumstances, would you translate whatever "other" sense you had into Christianity?
 
BetteTheRed said:
Sure, OK, so you have a "mystical" experience. Doesn't just "where (or the circumstances under which) you had this mystical experience" colour how you translate it into your BS? Say you're a little Buddhist boy in a village in China; no Christians around, no Christian context or education (I know you're Italian - you're sort of steeped in Catholicism as a culture). Under very different circumstances, would you translate whatever "other" sense you had into Christianity?
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actually , I have a long history of spiritual experiences going back to when I was 13, beginning from the occult to Jesus in my early 40s. And to be honest the bible was the last book I ever wanted to get into.
 
Waterfall said:
Probably because being born again, is his reality. Comparing your own journey to others is disrespectful of someone elses journey.
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Could end up in additional dunking ... hot water and not warmed slowly as done for the f(rogues) ... they were often incinerated suddenly by relative inquisition ...
 
blackbelt1961 said:
is it?, occultists have spiritual experiences also , your saying its disrespectful to preach the Christ to them
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As long as you observe the dark glow ... surrounding the words ...

But you have to look through then dark mass ... sometimes appearing as Ness, or Nell ... a quiet spot ...
 
Waterfall said:
Probably because being born again, is his reality. Comparing your own journey to others is disrespectful of someone elses journey.
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Having your own version of reality is like having "alternative facts". Saying you have "your own reality" doesn't change reality.
 
God is the Master of Time. He created time, and he can put it to an end if he so chooses. Thankfully, he won't do that. Those of us who trust in Christ will enjoy everlasting life.
 
For marketing purposes, that certainly sounds like a better deal than credibility in this life.
 
Waterfall said:
Comparing your own journey to others is disrespectful of someone elses journey.
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No, it is not. That's how we learn from others' journeys. Comparing your own journey to others' for the purpose of disparaging them or trying to "convert" them sure, but not the mere act of comparison.
 
Waterfall said:
I was answering Chansen.....defending your beliefs about being born again.
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Right out of the dark ... a spark ... runs parallel to early Genesis ...

Behind time is darkness ... an unknown power that even baffled Einstein with the quantum nature as quarky, quirky ... and hard to follow ... like god is way beyond us ...
 
Kimmio said:
doesn't reality change if observed? So then what is reality, really?
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A virtual incarnation as illusionary grasp of phantoms in the mind .. without mind these phantoms cannot occur and burn up on observation ... like mad psychosis ... why the light Leve is a good lift ... you read any of Acher Leve?

Covers conditions when Levite departs and Eve arrives ... just to please the dark aspects of soul that can become active once you drop out of conscious states ... aspirations? A shore leave of senses ...
 
Reality certainly relies on individual viewers. Ask people leaving after watching a movie -some think it was wonderful, others think it was a waste of time and film. Ask people about a church congregation - some will describe it as a loving, caring place, others will say they are all self serving hypocrites.
 
BetteTheRed said:
Either you get some sort of supernatural evidence that convinces only you, or you don't. But even then, how do you ignore reality? The reality that, except anecdotally, and experientially, for some people, not all (there's probably a genetic code for a "god" gene or not, LOL), that there is NO credible evidence for a BS that relies on the existence of a supernatural being, to start with.
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because its not aboot Truth but Meaning*?
it looks like our bodies etc evolved not to apprehend Truth but, rather, survival? That which helped us to survive got passed down and supported?
also BS alert in my last 3 sentences :3
*it also looks like, according 2 a very recent experiment, that what our visual system deems important isn't what is actually there but rather what is meaningful.

ps. it is also possible to intentionally seek out mystical experiences. Arminius was able to ferinstance. I'm biased towards them; my personal faith is based both on the theoretical and the experiential.
 
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