How do you explain the Trinity to kids?

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and one of the questions will always be asked : who or what is the Holy Ghost? So there is God, who created everything, and we are created in His (or Her) image, and then he actually created Jesus, who was then sacrificed.... so all powerful Dad who is God could not save him???? The questions pile up. It gets confusing....
 
The moral themes of kindness and caring that run through some of the NT are important - but overall, the story of Jesus does not work on many levels. It would be better to look at historical Jesus writings and research and that - Jesus was a man, perhaps a leader of a community, and refer to Crossan and Borg
 
simple answer: Jesus asked of his followers to be kind and caring, and support social justice, and all are welcome
 
Was ja' Zues truly un-disconnected ... in a underhanded way to protect the state of things here in heaven where people didn't wish to know?

Thus the subtle support system!
 
Luce NDs said:
"... focussed on the difference between virtue and vice"? Does that place a dualistic squeeze on literal pieces that we are faced to memorize in school as if they were the truth ...
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I don't think Stoicism quite cut the mustard and became all influential. Otherwise adiaphorus would be a common place descriptor.

It might have some influence on how we look at elements in a diametrical relationship. While we may not always imply moral value to these kind of relationships it is not an uncommon development. Black and white, dark and light, wrong and right.

Because the ultimate concern of the Stoic was the moral life the focus on virtue and vice was really about which behaviours are virtuous and which are vice and why.

Memorization would be adiaphorus as it is not a moral (or even an amoral) end. The only thing that would be of importance would be the rules which lead to a moral life. Not what we believe but more so how we behave.

Luce NDs said:
Consider powerful people's attitudes about rules on expenditures ... if there are no rules one does not have to face any restrictions or containment! Does this indicate that something is missing and in such people one could find nothing there ... of the insubstantial nature that could materially interfere with their wiles if they were suffering a'pocalypse on the unseen concern.
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Not being a Stoic myself I don't know how jazzed they would be about the Duffy trial. I suspect that they'd be giving Duffy the thumb's down simply because his defence about external rules being vague would not be an adequate justification for his internal motivations and personal behaviours.

Luce NDs said:
various tryrants have said the common people shouldn't know this .. and thus the poc hole in space that is formed by tulips!
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While true I don't think the Stoics afford this out. I cannot remember any particular opinion of any Stoic against a tyrant.

Luce NDs said:
Can you connect machian philosophy to Nichomachian Ethics, and Machiavellian Satire without understanding the difference in moral pools and upstanding ethics ... as a classic tree of logi?
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Personally? Not with any kind of confidence and certainly not off the top of my head.

Luce NDs said:
It is not brain drain if there wasn't anything there to begin wit ...
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Not a charitable statement though it is an apt observation.
 
Thus rev john could you say we approach nothing as far as wisdom appears with us ... or you could say nino'thing (neigh-no) as an evaporative soul ... considering all that which is out there to draw from out irrational behaviour! And thus IT goes ...
 
redhead said:
yin yang is black and white - a balance - and an easier concept to understand. Trinity is difficult
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Yes, a balance (between opposite forces) And that which achieves and maintains the balance is the transcendental or creative power, force, or spirit, called ruach in ancient Aramaic (or Hebraic?). In modern German, Rauch is smoke. Holy smokes, eh? :)
 
redhead said:
and one of the questions will always be asked : who or what is the Holy Ghost? So there is God, who created everything, and we are created in His (or Her) image, and then he actually created Jesus, who was then sacrificed.... so all powerful Dad who is God could not save him???? The questions pile up. It gets confusing....
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the bible does not teach that Jesus was Created
 
Hermann said:
Yes, a balance (between opposite forces) And that which achieves and maintains the balance is the transcendental or creative power, force, or spirit, called ruach in ancient Aramaic (or Hebraic?). In modern German, Rauch is smoke. Holy smokes, eh? :)
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what would you say the equal opposite force to the Creator is ?
 
Hermann said:
Yes, a balance (between opposite forces) And that which achieves and maintains the balance is the transcendental or creative power, force, or spirit, called ruach in ancient Aramaic (or Hebraic?). In modern German, Rauch is smoke. Holy smokes, eh? :)
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In the Pipe Ceremony of North American aboriginal spirituality, the bowl and the stem of the Sacred Pipe represent universal opposites. The two are stored separately, and united for ceremonial purposes. The fire in the bowl is the fire of the Great Spirit. When the smoke is inhaled, it unites not only pipe and bowl but also the body of the inhaler with the Great Spirit and with the principle of unity and balance between opposites. That's how one Native Medicine Man explained it to me. More Holy Smokes, eh?
 
redhead said:
The moral themes of kindness and caring that run through some of the NT are important - but overall, the story of Jesus does not work on many levels. It would be better to look at historical Jesus writings and research and that - Jesus was a man, perhaps a leader of a community, and refer to Crossan and Borg
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what about the teachings in the NT of unconditional Love?
 
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