Physicality matters then spirituality is not there ... spirit is antimatter ...
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Goodbye and Off To Heaven (Luke 24: 36 - 53)
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Physicality matters then spirituality is not there ... spirit is antimatter ...
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I keep thinking of the reply Jesus made to the Saduccees when they posed the question about the woman who married seven brothers. So resurrection provides a body that eats but does not marry.
The post resurrection stories raise many questions in a 21st century world. We know heaven is not up there so the ascension story begins to look like science fiction. If Jesus is the first born from the dead, will our resurrection be the same?
Urantia is a book hated by many conservative and progressive Christians. The book is over 2000 pages of fine print and the Jesus Papers take up 900 pages in it. The book claims that Jesus had a morantia body when he was resurrrcted and this body takes time to reach its final form. This was why Mary could not touch him but he could eat later.
His body included the wounds that led to his death. If I die in a car crash, will my resurrected body show how I died? A relative of B's burned to death in a refinery fire. What would his body look like?
Paul takes a Greek kind of approach and assumes our resurrected selves will be different from our physical bodies. He probably died before any of the gospels were written.
It is really hard to accept the resurrection stories as historical, though I am convinced there was a resurrection experience, one which was not relatable in the words they had available to use. Over 40 years "It was as though" became "It was".
While unsafe seems to believe the Word of God is the Bible, I believe the Word of God is a Living Word continually being expressed in the world and the Cosmos.
The post resurrection stories raise many questions in a 21st century world. We know heaven is not up there so the ascension story begins to look like science fiction. If Jesus is the first born from the dead, will our resurrection be the same?
Urantia is a book hated by many conservative and progressive Christians. The book is over 2000 pages of fine print and the Jesus Papers take up 900 pages in it. The book claims that Jesus had a morantia body when he was resurrrcted and this body takes time to reach its final form. This was why Mary could not touch him but he could eat later.
His body included the wounds that led to his death. If I die in a car crash, will my resurrected body show how I died? A relative of B's burned to death in a refinery fire. What would his body look like?
Paul takes a Greek kind of approach and assumes our resurrected selves will be different from our physical bodies. He probably died before any of the gospels were written.
It is really hard to accept the resurrection stories as historical, though I am convinced there was a resurrection experience, one which was not relatable in the words they had available to use. Over 40 years "It was as though" became "It was".
While unsafe seems to believe the Word of God is the Bible, I believe the Word of God is a Living Word continually being expressed in the world and the Cosmos.
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Presumably, "ascension" could be moving to another dimension rather than literally rising into space, even if three-dimensional beings like us see it as "rising". Or maybe it's transformative, with the "rising" being just a part of the process or how external observers perceive it. But, yeah, we are definitely out of the simple "Jesus rising into the sky" understanding at that point. Then again, a human being rising into the sky and disappearing is pretty sf&f-ish stuff already.
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