God in our Image?

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Jae said:
"In the image of God he created them. He created them male and female. God blessed them and said [L to them], 'Have many children and grow in number [T Be fruitful and multiply]. Fill […and fill] the earth and be its master [subdue it]. Rule [T Have dominion] over the fish in the sea and over the birds in the sky [heavens] and over every living thing that moves on the earth.' God said, “Look, I have given you all the plants that have grain for seeds [L on the face of the earth] and all the trees whose fruits have seeds in them. They will be food for you.'" - Genesis 1:27b-29 (EXB).
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I was sort of going for the kind of evidence that says "we're most genetically like chimpanzees and they are omnivores"...
 
Jae said:
"In the image of God he created them. He created them male and female. God blessed them and said [L to them], 'Have many children and grow in number [T Be fruitful and multiply]. Fill […and fill] the earth and be its master [subdue it]. Rule [T Have dominion] over the fish in the sea and over the birds in the sky [heavens] and over every living thing that moves on the earth.' God said, “Look, I have given you all the plants that have grain for seeds [L on the face of the earth] and all the trees whose fruits have seeds in them. They will be food for you.'" - Genesis 1:27b-29 (EXB).
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What if man was looking a man when imagining the biased opinion about god's nature when god is much more ethereally spread out ... to the point of a' void-ism? Maybe woman was looking at a man or the other way around ... a difficult process for one-way folk?
 
I think the expression " Adam and Steve" is very disrespectful. IMO

@Jae, please do not use it ( or any one else..)
 
crazyheart said:
I think the expression " Adam and Steve" is very disrespectful. IMO

@Jae, please do not use it ( or any one else..)
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Asking 'Adam and Eve or Adam and Steve' is just a way of asking, 'Which did God create first, which was and is His design for marriage - the partnership of a man and a woman, or the partnership of two people of the same gender.' The biblical record of the Creation clearly gives that it was and it is the former.
 
Jae said:
Why Must Marriage be Defined as Being Only between a Man and Woman? - BibleStudyTools Video
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Add "for Christians" to that and you're gold. If Christians (or other faith groups) of any stripe want to define marriage that way and only offer the rite to cisgendered heterosexual couples, that is their right. But for broader society, it must remain more open. My religious freedom matters, too, and redefining marriage in a discriminatory way and forcing UUs and others who do not accept that definition to follow it would violate that freedom. The Bible is not our constitution.
 
Mendalla said:
Add "for Christians" to that and you're gold. If Christians (or other faith groups) of any stripe want to define marriage that way and only offer the rite to cisgendered heterosexual couples, that is their right. But for broader society, it must remain more open. My religious freedom matters, too, and redefining marriage in a discriminatory way and forcing UUs and others who do not accept that definition to follow it would violate that freedom. The Bible is not our constitution.
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Change that to "for some Christians" and you're gold.
 
Mendalla said:
Add "for Christians" to that and you're gold. If Christians (or other faith groups) of any stripe want to define marriage that way and only offer the rite to cisgendered heterosexual couples, that is their right. But for broader society, it must remain more open. My religious freedom matters, too, and redefining marriage in a discriminatory way and forcing UUs and others who do not accept that definition to follow it would violate that freedom. The Bible is not our constitution.
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What I'm speaking about here, though, is not only included in the Bible but goes beyond it as well. Even without the biblical text, the truth would be that God created marriage to be a certain thing. What He did is recorded in the Bible, however it would be so even if it was not.
 
Jae said:
What I'm speaking about here, though, is not only included in the Bible but goes beyond it as well. Even without the biblical text, the truth would be that God created marriage to be a certain thing. What He did is recorded in the Bible, however it would be so even if it was not.
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Assuming for a moment there was no Bible, how exactly would you know this "truth"? How can you know it goes "beyond the Bible"?
 
Mendalla said:
Assuming for a moment there was no Bible, how exactly would you know this "truth"? How can you know it goes "beyond the Bible"?
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I trust that God would have revealed it to us in some other way. There is, of lesser note, just the fact that the vast majority of people who desire marriage desire a traditional one (one man and one woman for life). It seems that God has just built that desire into us.
 
Jae said:
I trust that God would have revealed it to us in some other way. There is, of lesser note, just the fact that the vast majority of people who desire marriage desire a traditional one (one man and one woman for life). It seems that God has just built that desire into us.
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So what? Since when have the desires of the majority dictated what is right for all? If a majority who desire to drive cars desire to drive big, gas-guzzling SUVs, does that make me wrong to drive thrifty compacts? After all, God must have built that desire into us.
 
And I don't desire a same-sex marriage for myself but that doesn't mean I don't support it for those who do. Polls in recent years have put support for same-sex marriage among Canadians at around 70%, suggesting I'm hardly in the minority on that. I highly doubt 70% of Canadians desire same sex marriage for themselves.
 
Mendalla said:
And I don't desire a same-sex marriage for myself but that doesn't mean I don't support it for those who do. Polls in recent years have put support for same-sex marriage among Canadians at around 70%, suggesting I'm hardly in the minority on that. I highly doubt 70% of Canadians desire same sex marriage for themselves.
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I highly doubt it too. Just look at how many traditional marriages take place each year vs. how many same-sex ones.
 
Jae said:
I highly doubt it too. Just look at how many traditional marriages take place each year vs. how many same-sex ones.
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Right, but my point is that what they desire for themselves is not what matters here. I don't impose what I desire for myself on others. They have the freedom to pursue their own desires. And in the case of same-sex couples who desire marriage a vast majority of Canadians support allowing them to do so. And it is that support that matters, not what the majority of Canadians do in their own marriage.

Anyhow, the discussion is moot since same-sex marriage is off the table politically. Even the Conservatives have removed opposition to it from their platform. Feel free to believe what you like, but for the time being, freedom to marry is the law and, IMHO, rightly so. Nothing further to be said.
 
Mendalla said:
Right, but my point is that what they desire for themselves is not what matters here. I don't impose what I desire for myself on others. They have the freedom to pursue their own desires. And in the case of same-sex couples who desire marriage a vast majority of Canadians support allowing them to do so. And it is that support that matters, not what the majority of Canadians do in their own marriage.

Anyhow, the discussion is moot since same-sex marriage is off the table politically. Even the Conservatives have removed opposition to it from their platform. Feel free to believe what you like, but for the time being, freedom to marry is the law and, IMHO, rightly so. Nothing further to be said.
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And imho not rightly so. Have a good evening.
 
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