Christianity and other religions

[BetteTheRed]

So you think God could not kill one for their disobedience of His Law -----better think again ---

Exactly how does one differentiate between "death by natural causes" and "death by Godde"?

If I drop dead of a brain aneurysm tomorrow (highly unlikely; I have no symptoms), would you be tempted to call it an Act of Godde?

 

[Redbaron]

 

[paradox3]

Who was it that said faith can be defined as trust rather than a matter of belief?

Was it Marcus Borg?

 

[unsafe]

BetteTheRed -----you said -----f I drop dead of a brain aneurysm tomorrow (highly unlikely; I have no symptoms), would you be tempted to call it an Act of Godde?

NO --because God gives us choice to be Blessed or be Cursed ------so you can't blame God for your brain aneurysm ----that comes under the Curse of disobedience which you chose to entertain yourself -----NOTICE --THE IF YOU -----so if your choose ---your choice ----

Read all for yourselves ----- I am just posting this
Deuteronomy 28:15-68 NIV​

Curses for Disobedience​

15 However, if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you:
16 You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country.
17 Your basket and your kneading trough will be cursed.
18 The fruit of your womb will be cursed, and the crops of your land, and the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.
19 You will be cursed when you come in and cursed when you go out.

20 The Lord will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him.[a]

21 The Lord will plague you with diseases until he has destroyed you from the land you are entering to possess.

22 The Lord will strike you with wasting disease, with fever and inflammation, with scorching heat and drought, with blight and mildew, which will plague you until you perish.

23 The sky over your head will be bronze, the ground beneath you iron. 24 The Lord will turn the rain of your country into dust and powder; it will come down from the skies until you are destroyed.
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God gave a command that no one was to touch the ark --------and this man touch it and died there and then ---

God could have killed Adam on the spot for disobeying His command ------it was God's Grace and Mercy that saved Adam ----

 

[Luce NDs]

Exactly how does one differentiate between "death by natural causes" and "death by Godde"?

If I drop dead of a brain aneurysm tomorrow (highly unlikely; I have no symptoms), would you be tempted to call it an Act of Godde?

We'll label that apoplexy ... sometimes given the sometimes meaning is "a person may learn by shock and go insane"! Emotions can do that when in conflict ... other times it may have a metaphor ... like FB! All warped for amusement of the darker 4's?

Many demons find this when they don't agree ... thus the "deuce is" ...

 

[Luce NDs]

Was the arc a kind of a curved vessel as described in the non-fiction The Swerve?

God threw it at the beginning of the game and it became a numb carrier of Gods disposed items of concern ... even Caesar was like that and thus the Pall!

Some say even the sole of that vessel was curved ... Das Bote! However ... it didn't bode well down there ...

 

[Redbaron]

BetteTheRed -----you said -----f I drop dead of a brain aneurysm tomorrow (highly unlikely; I have no symptoms), would you be tempted to call it an Act of Godde?

NO --because God gives us choice to be Blessed or be Cursed ------so you can't blame God for your brain aneurysm ----that comes under the Curse of disobedience which you chose to entertain yourself -----NOTICE --THE IF YOU -----so if your choose ---your choice ----

Aneurysms have very little, if anything, to do with faith or behaviour or believing or anything else. They have no bearing on being blessed or cursed. They just happen. God does NOT give one a 'choice' as to whether or not to suffer an aneurysm. Nor does it have to do with disobedience or obedience. They just happen.
Your post proves exactly nothing.

 

[Luce NDs]

Aneurysms have very little, if anything, to do with faith or behaviour or believing or anything else. They have no bearing on being blessed or cursed. They just happen. God does NOT give one a 'choice' as to whether or not to suffer an aneurysm. Nor does it have to do with disobedience or obedience. They just happen.
Your post proves exactly nothing.

Aneurisms also can strike without warning ... sort of like emotions and passions ... and then the learning comes in 4-say as something you could see coming if you were observant! They could be classed as an unconscious event ... shockly taking one into an alien domain.

Recall anything alien scares the crap out of those connected strongly to established items.

Then there is the concept of a Sea Anchor ... in deep water something to depend upon when there's no water ... perhaps a base for parable!

A person can not talk to the established in monumental enterprises about alterations if it threatens their position in the vanities ...

As that great philosopher stated: "all is vanity" thus bonfires! Heaven may be humble and that would warp the impressions of those afflicted with avarice and a search for even greater power so as to overcome the other gods ...

It is near mythical in a numinous sentience ... a burning icon? Perhaps kerygma as hot words ... these may cool in the shades as they expand into the demonology! Magi forest ... fliting across the sans of time ... unreal or anti virtual?

To understudy this for grasp, one must examine many secular images ... a down to earth purpose in life? I don't know but sometimes feel that I've gotten close to escaping the body of self ... an OBI?

Maybe a psyche flaw ... mental wise crack ... 4 ends IHC study of BS? You can tell a lot by etiology and the bugs in the syndrome ... that's the BUZZ!

 

[unsafe]

Redbaron ----and your humans ranting proves you disbelieve what God says -----LOL

 

[Luce NDs]

Redbaron ----and your humans ranting proves you disbelieve what God says -----LOL

Do I hear a ghost of laughter from a distant joker that states they make no fun of the body of secular beans ... counterpoint as salient?

There it seized to be strained and stressed as without adequate grit ---John Way In ...

Life is tempestuous as the mystery carrier dumped us out into real space to run off energy ... the reason? Go figure!

There is a old adage that one should do no harm as a healer ... so change not nothing or positive progress could be made in supporting the surrounding wrinkle that supports us ... environmental wave of destruction as it echoes ... some say an ego anciently taken as a sentient item ... making people a sort of impression of gods ... and thus hell bent for power.

The there is the nemesis ... as it falls to yah ... onus? If you know the proper qui words ...

Einstein was intent on doing a study on the gravid wave ... it remained unseen!

Really as incarnate ... quite simple as not how it appeared ...

Say it quietly so as to not shake up the established form!

The risk of faith always allows that there could be another mistake ... thus old folks conceive ... it is biblical! Keep that in mind ... as psychi deal IC!

That abstract that churns words ... and milks the neuro system for sentient concept!

 

[Redbaron]

Redbaron ----and your humans ranting proves you disbelieve what God says -----LOL

And YOUR human ravings prove you have no clue what the Bible as a whole says, only that you can cherry-pick verses to suit your purpose-du-jour.
So LOL right back atcha.

 

[Luce NDs]

Are affiliative Christians counter to Christians of denial? There the divine gap ...

 

[GordW]

Who was it that said faith can be defined as trust rather than a matter of belief?

Was it Marcus Borg?

I think that was Borg. Maybe in The Heart of Christianity?

 

[BetteTheRed]

15 However, if you do not obey the Lord your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you:
16 You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country.
17 Your basket and your kneading trough will be cursed.
18 The fruit of your womb will be cursed, and the crops of your land, and the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.
19 You will be cursed when you come in and cursed when you go out.

In light of this, how do you understand the book of Job? Job was a righteous man, of no fault. Yet Godde chose to heap all kinds of abuse on him in order to prove something to Ha-Shatan.

 

[BetteTheRed]

Who was it that said faith can be defined as trust rather than a matter of belief?

Was it Marcus Borg?

I think so as well. I always say that I have great faith (in the ultimate macro benevolence of Godde, the Universe & Everything), but zero belief.

 

[unsafe]

BetteTheRed ----
The Job story has nothing to do with the curses God put in place for disobeying Him ----Job didn't disobey God ----Job's faith and loyalty was being tested under a Challenge by Satan to God -----

Satan challenged God to hand Job over to him because Satan said if you take all that he has away from him --he will curse you to your face -----God doesn't give Blessings and then take them away ---so He accepts Satan's challenge to show Satan that Job will be a faithful servant through the horrible suffering that he will endure --

An at the end of the challenge ---God restores all that Satan took from Job with twice as much as he had before and restores his health -----

read all here

Bible Gateway passage: Job 1:6-22 - English Standard Version

Satan Allowed to Test Job - Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them. The LORD said to Satan, “From where have you come?” Satan answered the LORD and said, “From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking up and down...

www.biblegateway.com

I say -------The strength of Job's faith and trust in God in his bad situation is amazing-- he never sinned nor did he curse God -----and that is what this is about ---

Liberated people love God when all is going great but how do they stack up when things turn sour in their lives ----do they still love God or curse Him

 

[unsafe]

Human faith is different from Bible Faith -----human faith relies on our earthly 5 senses ----Bible Faith relies on the unseen spiritual realm ----

 

[Luce NDs]

I think so as well. I always say that I have great faith (in the ultimate macro benevolence of Godde, the Universe & Everything), but zero belief.

This allows for a growing belief ... what the naivete group would shy away from as it would demand freshening up your old ideas about how it really is ...

Expect to have to establish some weird theories about ghosts and vapors --- Freud!

 

[Redbaron]

Human faith is different from Bible Faith -----human faith relies on our earthly 5 senses ----Bible Faith relies on the unseen spiritual realm ----

Where does 'Got Questions?' say THAT gem appears in the Bible?

 

[Luce NDs]

Human faith is different from Bible Faith -----human faith relies on our earthly 5 senses ----Bible Faith relies on the unseen spiritual realm ----

In some traditions quintessence ... once achieving the 6-sense ... the 7th light comes on as a white out ... that rye flash ... of things never before in de light!

What's a hanging light in the Hebrew (ל) in other traditions this is a cleft hanger ... like a viper that Big bertha gave a severe working over with her club!

A big addar? Isn't that sum thing ... integral ... the Ca Duceus ... 2-spirit? Medical term for that in the core ... Heart of Darkness ... novel tome?

I love it when you can hide intelligence in words despised by those idealizing simple emotions ... and thus you can pass ignored by those that don't understand and believe you are not a dangerous thinker ...

The Romans were enraged by the danger of thinkers ... they burned ancient things referring to wise men in the past ... yet some believe that many Romans were brute-ish ... and Caesar said ET TU? he suspected the alter shadow was descending ...

Do not plug an injury that was doing what it was supposed to do ... some ancient healer ... perhaps Aton or Ammon, a kind of nut for interfering with natural dis ease ... stress abatement?