Canadian Armed Forces, inappropriate behavior and who knew what when?

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Mendalla

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What disturbs me, possibly the most, was Vance claiming to his "special friend" that he had the Minister of Defense "under control". Sounds very much like the tail wagging the dog.
Which is my biggest concern. We really need to make it clear to the generals/admirals that the civilian minister and senior bureaucrats are the ultimate authority, not them. And an independent civilian oversight board with investigative power over all ranks right up the Chief of Defense Staff would go a long away towards that. Also, not appointing ex-mil to be Minister of Defense. As we are seeing here, there is just too much risk that habits of deference to authority are a potential problem.
 

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Yes. Agree that was a very disturbing comment

and Pinga. I started this thread. Are you telling me that you are going to police what I add to it
 

JayneWonders

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Yes. Agree that was a very disturbing comment

and Pinga. I started this thread. Are you telling me that you are going to police what I add to it
No, what I am saying is it is tiresome to have a thread about the armed forces end up a place to throw everything you dont' like about Trudeau in it.
If that is what it is, I will happily back out.
 

Lastpointe

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An article gets posted about another new report. And I post it. Yes I comment. And yes I think Trudeau is a twit. But I also think as the head of government he has to own what happens under his watch. And if he needs to fire ministers then so be it

i am interested why the liberal party is preventing Telford from testifying. Marquis said he told her. So either she knew and told her boss, which seems the right thing to do when we are talking about the chief of defense staff, or she withheld it. Either way it is an interesting thing to follow up on

it is interesting that Sagiin most recently , prior to getting elected, worked for Vance. That seems a tad close for comfort

In Any corporation, it’s pretty hard to report or discipline your boss or ex boss
 

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earlier this week, the commander was just going to be moved to his new role earlier. But after military and public backlash he is being put on leave. That is a good thing that the new person in charge is taking actions

the article also raises the issue of letters of support. Like reference letters, they can come back to bite you
 

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interesting the the USA has the same issue under discussion now.

I wonder what the statistics are like in Israel. All adults enter the military there for two years. Men and women. So one assumes it is much more 50/50 , at least in the mandatory term. Perhaps when it is the option to remain it is more of a men’s job?
 

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BetteTheRed

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I can't even imagine how this gets fixed.

Short of dismantling the whole system, which exists, to a large part, as a mechanism to allow former civilians to murder other people in a spirit of obedience, what does one do?

Mrs. A and I have just concluded a short workshop series on non-violence, and the leader is fond of referring to the Peace Virus. I don't know where you inject the peace virus into this organization.
 
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