Biblical Inerrancy?????

[Luce NDs]

Imagine a common theme like Johns to the Ric*hard class ... in Nordic "IHC's" often mis viewed as axes in the myth ... double bided ... more twin theory as gestalt! The stand alone 's can't see it from their point ... too scant very thin ... below the horizon of Ares ...

 

[Mendalla]

The Bible is, on one level, a book like any other. It is a collection of texts by divers hands written over several centuries. Some of it might date to the Bronze Age. The stories certainly do (e.g. if Exodus happened at all, it would have been late Bronze Age) even if they were written down later. So inerrancy is basically impossible.

That said, as P3 suggests, it contains the core myths of two major cultural streams; Jewish and Christian. And multiple subgroups within them. So inerrant or not, we live in a culture that has been shaped by those myths so they are important, whether we see them as myths or truths.

But inerrancy is a notion that needs to die. A lot of conflict could be resolved if group A didn't insist their understanding of the "inerrant" scripture trumped group B's. Absent inerrancy, there is room for interpretation and discussion.

 

[Luce NDs]

The Bible is, on one level, a book like any other. It is a collection of texts by divers hands written over several centuries. Some of it might date to the Bronze Age. The stories certainly do (e.g. if Exodus happened at all, it would have been late Bronze Age) even if they were written down later. So inerrancy is basically impossible.

That said, as P3 suggests, it contains the core myths of two major cultural streams; Jewish and Christian. And multiple subgroups within them. So inerrant or not, we live in a culture that has been shaped by those myths so they are important, whether we see them as myths or truths.

But inerrancy is a notion that needs to die. A lot of conflict could be resolved if group A didn't insist their understanding of the "inerrant" scripture trumped group B's. Absent inerrancy, there is room for interpretation and discussion.

What are divers hands ... alien forces that plunge in strange places? May be like the point of Cupid ... or even Athena at one time interpreted as soul bait! Aphrodisiac ... used by the patriarchs for marketing to the unsuspecting ... who wouldn't observe the transliteration! The variants are written all over Ur ... Seh La Vi ...

 

[Waterfall]

One of the most obvious additions to the bible is the ending of Mark that was added because a scribe didn't like the way it ended.
Then theres one of the most beloved stories of Jesus...the story of the Adulterous Woman, which was said to have been added in the 15th century.
Some will say it was from the oral history of Jesus and passed down, thus finally included later on, and others think it came from a different source.

 

[unsafe]

They will believe all the pablum that the bible serves, eat it, and ask for more without question. Bottom line is that they WANT and NEED to believe so they do, without question. They refer to this as "faith".

Which Faith are you talking about -----Catholic Faith ----Protestant Faith --United Faith ----Baptist Faith --Lutheran Faith ---Wesleyan Faith ---Religion Faith etc ---etc ---etc --Human intellectual Faith ---demonic Faith ---- God's Faith -----etc --etc --etc --

This word Faith is used in many different ways and forms -----so what Faith are you referring to ----

 

[Aufscherin]

This word Faith is used in many different ways and forms -----so what Faith are you referring to ----

^^^That laughter emoticon you're using. is that an attempt to mock me, or to minimise my opinion? Is that designed to somehow make you appear big and to make me appear small? I'm not going to dignify your arrogant post with a response, you pompous little prick.

 

[paradox3]

^^^That laughter emoticon you're using. is that an attempt to mock me, or to minimise my opinion? Is that designed to somehow make you appear big and to make me appear small?

Fair questions.

I'm not going to dignify your arrogant post with a response, you pompous little prick.r

IMHO this comment and the angry emoji are uncalled for.

Now, you may say this is none of my business. Which might be right.

OTOH if you are posting outside of this community's norms, don't you want to know? The alternative to feedback from your fellow members is the mods stepping in with their purple font.

 

[Luce NDs]

Fair questions.


IMHO this comment and the angry emoji are uncalled for.

Now, you may say this is none of my business. Which might be right.

OTOH if you are posting outside of this community's norms, don't you want to know? The alternative to feedback from your fellow members is the mods stepping in with their purple font.

Now that is revealing ... in ways that perhaps were meant be sacred ... hidden?

 

[Aufscherin]

IMHO this comment and the angry emoji are uncalled for

I will exercise my freedom of action via the written word up to and including the day that I get banned. I never lied to y'all did I? I told all of you that you had "Let the fox into the henhouse". You opened the door and let me in, no longer fond of the fox? Then kick her out, but don't attempt to change me because I have no desire to change, as I like myself as is.......very much so indeed.

 

[paradox3]

@Aufscherin
Beats me why anyone would enjoy flirting around with a potential ban from WC2.

It takes all kinds to make a world, I guess.

You post some interesting material, Ms Fox.

 

[Pavlos Maros]

Which Faith are you talking about -----Catholic Faith ----Protestant Faith --United Faith ----Baptist Faith --Lutheran Faith ---Wesleyan Faith ---Religion Faith etc ---etc ---etc --Human intellectual Faith ---demonic Faith ---- God's Faith -----etc --etc --etc --

This word Faith is used in many different ways and forms -----so what Faith are you referring to ----

Blind faith probably, like yours. The word faith is used in many ways, but it seems only when it refers to religious adherents. Remember, don't conflate "Trust" with "Faith" they aren't the same.

 

[Aufscherin]

@Aufscherin
Beats me why anyone would enjoy flirting around with a potential ban from WC2.

It takes all kinds to make a world, I guess.

You post some interesting material, Ms Fox.

Never love anything or anyone too much, because if you lose the thing that you love...then you will be devastated. I don't get attached so...if I get the boot, who cares?

 

[paradox3]

Blind faith probably, like yours. The word faith is used in many ways, but it seems only when it refers to religious adherents. Remember, don't conflate "Trust" with "Faith" they aren't the same.

One meaning of faith is trust.
Another meaning is belief. Or what we hold to be true.

What qualifies as Blind Faith, would you say?

 

[paradox3]

Never love anything or anyone too much, because if you lose the thing that you love...then you will be devastated. I don't get attached so...if I get the boot, who cares?

Hmm. Sounds like you've been hurt a time or two in your young life.

 

[Aufscherin]

Hmm. Sounds like you've been hurt a time or two in your young life.

My childhood was the stuff of nightmares. I don't allow for self pity as that will weaken you. Hate on the other hand makes you strong...no point in arguing that because it is true.

 

[paradox3]

My childhood was the stuff of nightmares. I don't allow for self pity as that will weaken you. Hate on the other hand makes you strong...no point in arguing that because it is true.

Not going to argue with you at all. Sorry to hear of the trauma you experienced. No need to give us any of the details. We will take your word for it.

 

[Pavlos Maros]

One meaning of faith is trust.
Another meaning is belief. Or what we hold to be true.

What qualifies as Blind Faith, would you say?

No sorry faith is completely different from trust. Faith involves belief in something without requiring evidence or proof. Whereas, trust is based on past experiences and evidence.
Blind faith is when a believer does not seek verification or challenge their beliefs. It is more concerning than ordinary faith because it involves accepting something without questioning, evidence, or reasoning. Blind faith, especially in religions, dogmas, or ideologies, can be dangerous to freedom, peace, and progress because it resists critical thinking and open dialogue.

 

[Waterfall]

There's a reason Jesus seeked out the lost and broken hearted.....faith can also heal a spirit or tortured soul.

 

[paradox3]

Faith vs trust vs loyalty vs fidelity might depend on which dictionary we employ.

 

[Aufscherin]

Not going to argue with you at all. Sorry to hear of the trauma you experienced. No need to give us any of the details. We will take your word for it.

What makes you presume that I would want to share my personal background with any of you? You presume far too much if you think that I trust any of you, because I don't....nor will I.