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New BC poll: support for NDP 41%, Libs 24%, Tories 22%, and Greens 12% (the Greens' numbers have been high specifically on Vancouver Island but not necessarily everywhere else in BC)

That's a pretty wide margin for the NDP out here, and Tories are 3rd which up until recently (I think, if I'm not mistaken) were first or second depending on the poll. My understanding was that the Cons/ NDP support had been pretty evenly split.

And of course BC will be the last to the polls in Oct.

http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/british-columbia/story/1.3203207#
I think BC needs a history lesson on Ontario under the Bob Rae NDP.
 
I think BC needs a history lesson on Ontario under the Bob Rae NDP.

He was also interim party leader for the federal Liberals before Justin Trudeau.

At this point, I don't believe Rae's provincial job in Ontario has anything to do with the federal NDP under Mulcair's leadership. I don't even think Mulcair's perfect either, I just think he's the best alternative for a new government, because May - the Greens are a small party - is not going to be PM and Trudeau is too close to the Tories on a few things. Mulcair has more experience, and I think he'd do the best job of the three parties that are actually contending to form the government.
 
He was also interim party leader for the federal Liberals before Justin Trudeau.

At this point, I don't believe Rae's provincial job in Ontario has anything to do with the federal NDP under Mulcair's leadership. I don't even think Mulcair's perfect either, I just think he's the best alternative for a new government, because May - the Greens are a small party - is not going to be PM and Trudeau is too close to the Tories on a few things. Mulcair has more experience, and I think he'd do the best job of the three parties that are actually contending to form the government.
If Mulcair becomes PM Cousin, I just hope he shaves. It would be nationally embarrassing if he visits some foreign country and at a dinner gets some food stuck in his beard :)
 
It is where a wealth of nutritious things that bug yah are retained ... in, or under the hair. --- old Hebrew axiom ...!

Then love is a hairy item like Gods parts ... was Moses a part of gods kingdom ... all encompassing and hairy for those not facing the entity?

Some say just a hairy experience like Thomas A' Moor's problem with Henry VIII ... a poorly understood paradox as Henry wished no one to know ... King James continued the tradition ... wishing people meditated like him ... mostly in a void mode! Rapturous?
 
I would like Mulcaire to explain the NDP position re Quebec referrendum

At this point, despite theSupreme court ruling , he is willing to allow 50%+1 to break up the counttry.

If that continues to be the NDP position then they are very dangerous for Canada.

If he openly backs the Supreme court ruling then they will lose the support in Quebec
 
It is where a wealth of nutritious things that bug yah are retained ... in, or under the hair. --- old Hebrew axiom ...!

Then love is a hairy item like Gods parts ... was Moses a part of gods kingdom ... all encompassing and hairy for those not facing the entity?
Well Luce, I guess we could count on Prime Limiter Mulcair never going hungry in Parliament. He can but reach into hi beard and tart nicking :D
 
There is a fete to be found under the hairy part or hiding there ... why Jesus searched out de scull n place ... became the flaming "I" of love immersed in wisdom ... in Semite form this would be "J" in deep research why heh is referred to as Sues ... that bi one severely burned by passions to know in a Roman Theatre!

Now there are I'z all over the place buried in the soil of life to haunt you as they popup as a knowing Jack ... but you are not to say so ... under the rule for naïveté ... your are not to know!
 
I think BC needs a history lesson on Ontario under the Bob Rae NDP.
BC has had NDP governments. For a while there they swung between Social Credit and NDP. MAybe history lessons would be helpful all around...
 
This is not available to those loched into the presence pool ... all other being dark ... or abstract?

Did you know the term Niger-essence was medically applied to a person with a reaction to blood transfusions when the cerium didn't match and thus they urinated black? So much is hidden in the shadow of words as cast about lightly ... tis a devil of a job to unravel them in a small time ... like a single life ... thus we share the chore for a larger soul ... who appears over stretched given the emotional conflicts going on!

Some people would be offended being in the same washroom ... even with a surface appearance! Such conflicts are peanuts to those seeing greater mental enigmas like h'8 of man on end ... ET I call?
 
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BC has had NDP governments. For a while there they swung between Social Credit and NDP. MAybe history lessons would be helpful all around...

I actually don't even know which parties are in power in every province and territory, only a few. I've heard them mentioned on the news but we do all tend to pay attention most to the province we live in. And I'm having trouble finding a list (are anyone's Google skills extra good today?)

All I know is Ontario's not the centre of the Universe - federally, the centre of Canadian politics but provincially, we all matter - but sometimes we feel politically isolated outside of it.
 
I would like Mulcaire to explain the NDP position re Quebec referrendum

At this point, despite theSupreme court ruling , he is willing to allow 50%+1 to break up the counttry.

If that continues to be the NDP position then they are very dangerous for Canada.

If he openly backs the Supreme court ruling then they will lose the support in Quebec
That's something low on the radar on this side of Canada, I must admit. It's not an issue British Columbians tend to think about so much but we probably should.

But who set the 50% +1 ruling as acceptable in the first place?
 
re separation referendum - the movement in Quebec looks quite dead. So I think it most likely will not happen. If it were held, and if the vote were 50% plus one, nobody of any party could hold on to Quebec. It would cause a civil war which would be worse than letting Quebec separate. Any politician who says he wouldn't let Quebec separate is either a fool or a liar. Think hard. Imagine a Harper telling Quebec after such a vote that he would not allow it to separate.

I say that out of no sympathy for separation. I spent twenty years of my life on the board of Alliance Quebec, the major anglo group against separation - some four of those years as provincial chairman.
I'm quite sure separatism is dead and isn't coming back. But I'm also sure that if it voted 50% plus one, Canada would not be able to stop the separation.

Harper is anti-democratic, an egomaniac, a control freak. and a complete sell-out to big money. Justin Trudeau is nothing more than a nice-looking spoiled kid. And he never will be more than that. Mulcair has more brains than both of them put together. In addition, Conservative party has been made a party of robots and stooges. And the Liberal party is effectively dead meat. It has to be entirely redesigned.

As for blaming the NDP of years ago in Ontario, if was not the NDP that caused the economic decline which that crisis was. We have had many, many such crises, almost all of them under Liberal and Conservative governments.

The NDP, by the way, is also the only party that has its roots in Christian teaching. Both Liberals and the Conservatives were founded as tools for big business - the Liberals for big business in Toronto, the Conservatives for big business in Montreal. And both have been knee-deep in corruption since 1867.
 
That's something low on the radar on this side of Canada, I must admit. It's not an issue British Columbians tend to think about so much but we probably should.

But who set the 50% +1 ruling as acceptable in the first place?

It is part of theofficial NDP policy. The Sherbrook declaration i think it is called

The supreme court said no but the NDP , in an effort to pander to soft soveriengist picked that as their rule

Despite the idea that separatism is lying low in Quebec, we cant count it out. And so , he is willing to let Canada be dissolved

Scary
 
All I know is Ontario's not the centre of the Universe - federally, the centre of Canadian politics but provincially, we all matter - but sometimes we feel politically isolated outside of it.

Ontario's the most important city in Canada, and Toronto's the best city in the world - bar none.
 
Well Duh! I did that! :) But was not thinking of the term first ministers. I googled several variations of "provincial parties in power, provincial premiers (I think)" I thought I'd come across something better - anyway - brain must be a bit slow today. I must've had a "brain fart" :) Thanks.
You were probably trying to hard. I typed Canada provincial governments or something like that, this was in the top 5.
 
It is part of theofficial NDP policy. The Sherbrook declaration i think it is called

The supreme court said no but the NDP , in an effort to pander to soft soveriengist picked that as their rule

Despite the idea that separatism is lying low in Quebec, we cant count it out. And so , he is willing to let Canada be dissolved

Scary

It's not the scariest issue, imo. From way out here I don't see it as letting Canada be dissolved - just really inconvenienced and messed up. So, I am not in favour of seperatism. Huge headache - economic repercussions. I think it's just an election play. Granted, one that deserves some scrutiny. To say it on the campaign trail is one thing. Whether it is something high on his agenda is another. As with all politicians. I think it would be such a huge ordeal to open another referendum on Quebec, it would not happen when it came right down to it. However, it is good that he be questioned about it.
 
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