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Had a point all along
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Ah, the "Flat Earth Approach". Let's see how that works out for you.He absolutely believes there are contradictions in the Bible. I absolutely believe there are not.
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Ah, the "Flat Earth Approach". Let's see how that works out for you.He absolutely believes there are contradictions in the Bible. I absolutely believe there are not.
"Racketing on"? I responded to a question posed in the OP, then said that I wasn't interested in a debate. That's hardly "racketing on" Have a great dayOr just stop racketing on about things you claim not to want to talk about FFS. Don't let the door hit your fat ass on yer way out, and please learn how to ease out of convos rather than flouncing.
I'm calling GordW's bluff to see if he can provide even one example of the NIV removing a contradiction in the text by mistranslating a single verse.THat is an interesting way of reading it... THough I seem to recall that the team behind the NIV tried to make choices to hide the contradictions in the text.
You asked a question in your OP. I responded to it. I'm not much interested in having a debate with you. Have a great day
The thing is, Bette, there's just not much to debate. He absolutely believes there are contradictions in the Bible. I absolutely believe there are not. Where can we possibly go from there? On the plus side, I'm happy and thankful that you decided to take me off ignore![]()
"Racketing on"? I responded to a question posed in the OP, then said that I wasn't interested in a debate. That's hardly "racketing on" Have a great day
For Jae and others who share his perspective, my original post was more of an argument rather than a straightforward question. That said, it does raise several underlying questions, such as:
Why do people interpret religious and secular texts so differently?
How does strong religious belief shape the way contradictions in sacred texts are handled?
Would looking at religious texts through a literary lens make them more or less meaningful?
What do these differences in interpretation tell us about human psychology and belief?
All I’ve done is open the door for discussion on these topics. The only real question, if you can even call it that, was this:
"Do you all think this approach could help us understand each other better moving forward?" if you are not open to any kind of discussion then it appears not.
I'm calling GordW's bluff to see if he can provide even one example of the NIV removing a contradiction in the text by mistranslating a single verse.
Because...evidence is suddenly valuable to you?I'm calling GordW's bluff to see if he can provide even one example of the NIV removing a contradiction in the text by mistranslating a single verse.
Because...evidence is suddenly valuable to you?
Because...evidence is suddenly valuable to you?
asks the naively pontificating biblical illiterate!
Yes, GordW needs to be called for slandering NIV translators with no evidence.
The example that was recently pointed out to me was in teh two creation stories to try and resolve the question of whether humanity was created before or after the animals (Genesis 2:19) . The translation choice (not necessarily a mistranslation but a choice as I origninally said) affects the verb tense. NIV says "Now the Lord God had formed" implying that the creatures had already been created, NRSV reads "So the Lord God formed" which suggests that they had not yet been created but were then created as a part of the finding a partner for adam as named in verse 18. Same video had other examples but I can't remember what they were off the top of my head.I'm calling GordW's bluff to see if he can provide even one example of the NIV removing a contradiction in the text by mistranslating a single verse.
The example that was recently pointed out to me was in teh two creation stories to try and resolve the question of whether humanity was created before or after the animals (Genesis 2:19) . The translation choice (not necessarily a mistranslation but a choice as I origninally said) affects the verb tense. NIV says "Now the Lord God had formed" implying that the creatures had already been created, NRSV reads "So the Lord God formed" which suggests that they had not yet been created but were then created as a part of the finding a partner for adam as named in verse 18. Same video had other examples but I can't remember what they were off the top of my head.
The JPS translation of the Tanakh, the Jerusalem Bible, the KJV, and the Good News all agree with the NRSV.
I've never claimed to be a biblical scholar.asks the naively pontificating biblical illiterate!
How about adding verses such as the added verses put in for Marks ending so it appears the women told others about the empty tomb(resurrection) instead of leaving it as originally written to show "they told no one" ....?I'm calling GordW's bluff to see if he can provide even one example of the NIV removing a contradiction in the text by mistranslating a single verse.
I've never claimed to be a biblical scholar.
You make faith healing claims based on anecdotes, many of those anecdotes being conveniently far too old to scrutinize, and the more recent ones inexplicably lacking in documentation.
So yeah, your sudden need for evidence is a new requirement from you. You demand it from Gord but consider your own say-so to be above scrutiny.
You have no credibility here. Look around. Almost nobody believes you, yet you're calling us "naive", like that changes anything.
Neither of those are unique to the NIV. Most translations include the longer endings to MArk, usually with notes commenting on the discrepancies in manuscripts.How about adding verses such as the added verses put in for Marks ending so it appears the women told others about the empty tomb instead of leaving it to show they told no one as they were commanded......?
Or changing maiden to virgin?