An article "The church is killing its gay kids"

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Airclean, your very beliefs are those that make life a living torment for any LGBTQ people unfortunate enough to stumble across them.

What do you think your life would have been like if you'd been told, from before puberty, that you could never have an intimate relationship? Would that make you feel loved and accepted for what you were?

You just don't seem to get it, and I cannot understand such a lack of basic compassion.
 
airclean33 said:
You know RitaTG --It is about time you stop saying .I am against Those who are Gay. I am not . Had two girls who were Gay lived across the road from me. Had the one who was a good carpenter come over an put a cupboard in for me. I payed 150.00 but she done a great job. We waved at each other for several years . As we seen one another. They just move about 2 mouths ago after 10 years. I don't hate GAYS RitaTG nor do I think Does GOD . John 3:: 16.
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If you are really not against those that are gay then please stop telling them that living that truth is sin.
I know God does not hate gays ... God has given them that gift ... of that I am firmly convinced.
The LGBT persons that I know that have found a welcoming church home that lets them be who they are without judgment are blossoming and living wonderful lives.
 
The movie Audacity is the best you can offer Pontifex????
That's it??????
Good grief Charlie Brown......
Maybe you can explain that to the thousands that Exodus International were not able to cure. And they were motivated....
 
BetteTheRed said:
Airclean, your very beliefs are those that make life a living torment for any LGBTQ people unfortunate enough to stumble across them.

What do you think your life would have been like if you'd been told, from before puberty, that you could never have an intimate relationship? Would that make you feel loved and accepted for what you were?

You just don't seem to get it, and I cannot understand such a lack of basic compassion.
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--Bette TheRed-- I get what your getting at. I did not say you could not have sex with who ever you wish. It was GOD who said it.Does it not seem strange that most beliefs around the world. Has said it is a no--no?In sum cases they will still kill you if they know who you are.I will not , but I am the one your worried about ?I have said from day one on Wondercafe . I am not pro GAY Movement. I did not hide and sneak up behind you. If this Thread where drunks, saying GODS Word is wrong. Drunks are ok. Did He not change water into wine. I would be there posting.
 
airclean33 said:
--Bette TheRed-- I get what your getting at. I did not say you could not have sex with who ever you wish. It was GOD who said it.Does it not seem strange that most beliefs around the world. Has said it is a no--no?In sum cases they will still kill you if they know who you are.I will not , but I am the one your worried about ?I have said from day one on Wondercafe . I am not pro GAY Movement. I did not hide and sneak up behind you. If this Thread where drunks, saying GODS Word is wrong. Drunks are ok. Did He not change water into wine. I would be there posting.
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......the usual false equating.....
I will say this ... you have always been clear on your position as have I.
That much I respect although I so very strongly disagree with you.
 
blackbelt1961 said:
Rita

can you explain to me where you get your patience from :barefoot:
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Always give off that which you wish you were given.
Even if it never comes back
Without ever requiring it to come back
That is what I live by and strive for...
I try and treat others as I wish I would be treated were I doing the same thing...
How can I not be patient with them if I wish that someone would be patient with me?
Grace ..... there is a source we both know ......
 
RitaTG said:
Always give off that which you wish you were given.
Even if it never comes back
Without ever requiring it to come back
That is what I live by and strive for...
I try and treat others as I wish I would be treated were I doing the same thing...
How can I not be patient with them if I wish that someone would be patient with me?
Grace ..... there is a source we both know ......
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Unconditional Love

amen
 
RitaTG said:
Yep ..... thought so ..... nothing to answer Jae's question......
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I think I answered. While there is no evidence in the gospels that he did or did not does not prove anything either way. But the bible is clear that he still was healing sinners 30 years later. And we still see it today.
 
Pontifex Geronimo 13 said:
I think I answered. While there is no evidence in the gospels that he did or did not does not prove anything either way. But the bible is clear that he still was healing sinners 30 years later. And we still see it today.
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Then could you please explain the lack of success of Exodus International?
 
Pontifex Geronimo 13 said:
I think I answered. While there is no evidence in the gospels that he did or did not does not prove anything either way...
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Fair comment. Although, I would imagine that if it was vitally important to cure homosexuality, Jesus would have engaged himself in doing so. Why would he not.

Pontifex Geronimo said:
But the bible is clear that he still was healing sinners 30 years later. And we still see it today.
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He was still healing sinners 30 years after the gospel accounts? I was speaking of Jesus' earthly ministry (I stated that clearly).
 
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