89 chapter project: Matthew

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blackbelt1961 said:
depends on the person, a nonbeliever will have to discredit it, a believer will support it. Nothing new really, its been going on for 2000 plus yrs
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You paint with far too broad a brush.
I consider myself a believer. I do not, however, 'support' this doctrine.
You may want to ponder the nuances and study the issues more closely before you pontificate again.
 
blackbelt1961 said:
you make no sense, walking into a church as a nonbeliever, you already have the other alternative
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I am a beleiver in God and try my best to follow Jesus teachings.....I feel it is my duty to God to question some scripture.
Numbers 23 :19......sorry paradox I know its not scripture from Mathew
 
Nuances are essence to those with existential unchangeable situations and do not learn of extensive nature of God ... a vast formless unknown!

They cannot shape their passions up into a decent foundation ...

This goes on in great fugacity ... an Eyre stretch ... like Jayne ...

Rye Shadow in the forest greens ... nyphonus?

Few good men grip the full implication ... thus led to the ideal of martyism!
 
Redbaron said:
You paint with far too broad a brush.
I consider myself a believer. I do not, however, 'support' this doctrine.
You may want to ponder the nuances and study the issues more closely before you pontificate again.
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it's not what you consider yourself to be, its what God calls you to be,

you might wanna study scripture more deeply, or feel free to make up your own theology, a lot of people do it , your no exception
 
Have you ever heard of folks so disinclined about critical information that are so glad at dishing it out?

One of the greatest mysteries in life although they claim there are no mysteries or questions needed!

They have it all in their dark hands ...
 
blackbelt1961 said:
it's not what you consider yourself to be, its what God calls you to be,

you might wanna study scripture more deeply, or feel free to make up your own theology, a lot of people do it , your no exception
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I'm a seminary graduate. I have studied Scripture. I continue to study Scripture. I do not make up my own theology.
Maybe if you studied Scripture more closely you might discover that YOU are not the voice of authority.
Maybe if you studied Scripture more closely you might discover some line (in Matthew's gospel, no less) about not judging, lest you yourself be judged.
Maybe if you studies Scripture more closely you might see that part about God holding our idle, useless words against us; and it might dawn on you that every time you make such ill-thought-through blanket statements like this, you're just digging your own hole a little deeper.
Ponder the nuances. Consider the depths. Ask yourself if you really know what you're talking about.
 
blackbelt1961 said:
um glad you quoted Numbers 23: 19, God does not Lie,

meaning Gods Spirit IS Truth
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Perhaps you shouldnt take the verse out of context and study how the Jews interpret it rather than Got Questions or other sites determined to ignore various Jewish interpretations for the same scripture. After all the OT was read and studied by Jesus also.
 
Nicodemus was a lawyer, not a theologian.
Ponder. Study. Think before you post.
A lot of foolishness can be avoided that way.
 
Waterfall said:
Perhaps you shouldnt take the verse out of context and study how the Jews interpret it rather than Got Questions or other sites determined to ignore various Jewish interpretations for the same scripture. After all the OT was read and studied by Jesus also.
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instead of making baseless accusations all the time maybe you should read what somebody writes,

If God does not Lie, what does that make Him??????????????

you make no sense
 
Redbaron said:
I'm a seminary graduate. I have studied Scripture. I continue to study Scripture. I do not make up my own theology.
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One of the things they taught us at the seminary I graduated from was to build our own theology. Different schools, different approaches perhaps.
 
paradox3 said:
Agreed. But I think it is clear that Jesus was calling for a higher standard of righteousness than the Pharisees were demonstrating. Maybe He thought the Pharisees were distorting ancient Judaism.
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I'm not sure that we all understand what Pharisees and Sadduccees were, and what their importance might have been to the people to whom "Matthew" was writing this gospel, and in the context in which he wrote. If this book was written in about 85 CE, the people he was writing to had lost their Temple, the foundation of their religion, and they were totally traumatized; as well as pulling the temple down to the ground, the people of Jerusalem had been slaughtered, to the point where the "streets ran with blood". The Sadduccees had been the Temple Authorities, the Pharisees were the seeds of the Rabbinic Judaism we know today and probably the only "religious authorities" known to Judaism in 85 CE. It would have been in rabbi-led synagogues that the earliest Christians would have met, I believe.
 
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