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ninj said:
What would women be doing if they were pushing their weight around?
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The same as men who act as if their self-interest was more important than others. Selfishness knows no bounds.
 
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Women have been shaped and led astray in various ways by misogyny over the ages. Taught how to they’re supposed to be, and measured through a misogynistic worldview.
 
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Sometimes I ask the question of "avarice" and who is posing themselves just to control the alternate .. they cannot be in the medium ... for oh God that could be a state of mind! Like heaven or hell as the up or down thing in a shimmy or shiva ... and there the line of medium was disposed of ...

John Cash sang about that ... the powers hate the man on the fence line ... then the object dips out of existence ... becoming a non-existential bother ... in essence!

Ever been asked whether you were real or other? That'd be alternate or counter to the subjective ... nothing established ... perhaps a mover or eternally ultimate wanderer? Far beyond those stuck ...
 
People don’t hate knowledge. It depends on how it’s presented. “I don’t care if you’re a sensitive person! I’m going to invade your boundaries beyond your weirdest nightmares, obscure reality, and pressure you to learn beyond your limits until you feel a threatening sense of agony and you’re going to appreciate me and it doesn’t matter what you have to say about it this is my show! If you don’t respond well to that you’re stupid and worthless and don’t belong on this earth!” … is not the effective teaching method some might think it is. It’s not really humbly meeting in the middle either, is it - really? Because they may have already learned through pain the teacher has never had, as it was. Is that the intent? Must’ve been if gnostic learning is experiential. “They’re hurting already. Torture them some more! Throw them into a dark place!” … and then puzzle amusingly at why they resist going along for that ride?
 
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Why ever would anyone push back on or question that method? How arrogant of them to resist. (Nobody understands, I realize.)

I don’t think I had such a problem “learning” before that, ironically. I feel like I was assigned the wrong “textbook”.
 
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I can't follow this conversation at all. I will describe myself as an open agnostic pantheist. Today, anyway.
 
timothyu said:
When they start pushing their weight around as men before them did.
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Here's an interesting question for you. When it comes to "pushing one's weight around", Ruth Bader Ginsburg famously said,

“When I'm sometimes asked when will there be enough [women on the Supreme Court] and I say, 'When there are nine,' people are shocked. But there'd been nine men, and nobody's ever raised a question about that.”​


Would that be "pushing our weight around"?
 
Describing a very “patriarchal” themed “dark night of soul” experience, you could say. Humbling by being devastating but still feels like it wasn’t the right lesson plan. Some unnecessarily painful redundancy in learning.
 
Here's to the 9's if doubled (18) the 1 and the height add up to the same thing when cojoined ...

Thus the red flush to the one addressed ...
 
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Luce NDs said:
Here's to the 9's if doubled (18) the 1 and the height add up to the same thing when cojoined ...
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Luce NDs with the help of chatgpt, i think i understand what this part means... Am I close?

  • 9 doubled = 18
    That part is straightforward arithmetic. In symbolic or numerological thinking:
    • 9 is often treated as a “completion” number.
    • 18 can be reduced back to 9 (1+8=9), so the writer may be emphasizing cycles or equivalence.
  • “the 1 and the height”
    “height” may be a phonetic or symbolic substitution:
    • “height” → “eight”
    • so “1 and the eight” = 18
    • If so, he is saying:

    18 consists of 1 and 8 joined together.
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  • “add up to the same thing when cojoined”
    This sounds like:
    • 1 + 8 = 9
    • and 18 itself symbolically returns to 9
    • So he may be drawing attention to recursive numeric symmetry.
 
JayneWonders said:
Luce NDs with the help of chatgpt, i think i understand what this part means... Am I close?

  • 9 doubled = 18
    That part is straightforward arithmetic. In symbolic or numerological thinking:
    • 9 is often treated as a “completion” number.
    • 18 can be reduced back to 9 (1+8=9), so the writer may be emphasizing cycles or equivalence.
  • “the 1 and the height”
    “height” may be a phonetic or symbolic substitution:
    • “height” → “eight”
    • so “1 and the eight” = 18
    • If so, he is saying:

  • “add up to the same thing when cojoined”
    This sounds like:
    • 1 + 8 = 9
    • and 18 itself symbolically returns to 9
    • So he may be drawing attention to recursive numeric symmetry.
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Right on ... and thus we rest a bit for the next grind ... hard learning curve! What was it they used to call that dippy item ... a clouded assimilation.

It is opposed by Kubler-Ross ... thus E frame of Eris ... dissonance! Maybe even Ephraim ... that's biblical ... people often don't read it because of paranoia ...

Roll 've Deis ... and we see the other end ... the face it concern? Gramps said it was nothing but worry ...

Then after the furies the 9 what's? Can there be anything more amusing? Unending hummers ... oblique resistors?
 
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