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WhyCzar said:
The more seriously a society (or platform, or regime, or institution) wants to control outcomes through speech regulation, the less genuine free speech it can ultimately tolerate.

When it comes to free speech vs. control I am more inclined to tolerate riding in the "Lucer" lane than I am to tolerating those riding in the "control matters more" Carney lane.

That's they jab of it.
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Irresolvable giggles in the depth of solutions ... and few agree to work at anything and thus useless labor ... solutions?

Do not let the vernacular process any thought ... is a common position ... impenetrable? Poke-poke ... and alas ... there was nothing to it as such emotions are nothing compared to the material world ... that's hard and also thick ... Moe Lasses?

What's Moe ... it goes on ... the unending story about lack of thought occurring as an onset of emotional activity ...

It is a dark period in the matters going by ... read Passages --- Gale Sheehy ... there one will find the iconic spot in a ring ... bad Circe?

Solution: Push no buttons ... some people are loaded with buttons ... and bows to chalk up ... previously sung ...

Bob Hope and Paleface ... is that farcical (distant go around)?
 
Luce NDs said:
there one will find the iconic spot in a ring ... bad Circe?
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Meanwhile in Canada, the Circe ringmaster PM is cracking the whip on free speech.

Turning Marks to Mutes?

P.S. @Luce NDs Would it be fair to see your communication style as a tad self-censoring?
 
WhyCzar said:
Meanwhile in Canada, the Circe ringmaster PM is cracking the whip on free speech.
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To be clear, the whole idea of eliminating religious belief as a defense for hate speech originated with the Bloc and their allies the CAQ with their whole "secularization" project (which seems peculiarly slanted against non-RC faiths). The Libs went along because it's a minority government. Not sure it would have been there absent that influence. It likely won't stand up in court anyhow. They can say it is not a defense in the law but the SCC gets final say on whether doing so is actually constitutional and if I was a lawyer specializing in charter cases, I would already be sharpening my arguments because there is no way this is not going to be challenged.
 
WhyCzar said:
Meanwhile in Canada, the Circe ringmaster PM is cracking the whip on free speech.

Turning Marks to Mutes?

P.S. @Luce NDs Would it be fair to see your communication style as a tad self-censoring?
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P.S. @Luce NDs Would it be fair to see your communication style as a tad self-censoring?

Maybe binding as a constitutional movement? Would that cause some rising donkeys to pucker ... :-0?

Then the great mystery created sphinx dere ... over dere to the right! And the people, the paradigm, was forbidden to react for ... god liked it! Few get a grasp of the paradigm as inclusive ...

Myself I know nothing either ... I've been told that by people who have crossed the line ... the tongue fell out and dropped to the floor ... thus the tongue(s) of the populace were disdained by god!

By god I believe I see it ...

Ever wonder which side of the line is out ... maybe a closed line? It is how it goes as fear becomes the greatest power utilized by great god-like potency unless you can get under it ... subtly! Thus mine fields develop ... your too ...

Some just don't do anything ... the target of CEO's, Governors and other BS's ... just lay there in the sun and desiccate ... a grim house without drink ?

Once in a educational course the leader said that water was essence of the symbol of the singularity we call sol ... it doesn't was with many powers of overheating nature ... what more could this poor thick head say? I've been labeled with speaking of great unknowns ... as you may have noticed. This is forbode ... don't even think about it ... a later professor of ethics directed me! Thus thought goes ... elimination by water ... flushed ...
 
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WhyCzar said:
Premier François Legault has just announced his resignation as Quebec premier.
He will remain in office until the Coalition Avenir Québec (CAQ) selects a successor.
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I saw that. Given what I've heard about the polls in the Quebec, sounds like the rat leaving the sinking ship before this year's election.
 
Mendalla said:
If I was a lawyer specializing in charter cases, I would already be sharpening my arguments because there is no way this is not going to be challenged.
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Might also apply to today's Federal Court of Appeal's unanimous decision:

(January 16, 2026) The Trudeau government's 2022 invocation of the Emergencies Act during the Freedom Convoy protests was unreasonable, not legally justified, and violated Charter rights — specifically freedoms of expression, association, and protection against unreasonable search and seizure (e.g., the bank account freezes without proper oversight).
 
WhyCzar said:
Might also apply to today's Federal Court of Appeal's unanimous decision:

(January 16, 2026) The Trudeau government's 2022 invocation of the Emergencies Act during the Freedom Convoy protests was unreasonable, not legally justified, and violated Charter rights — specifically freedoms of expression, association, and protection against unreasonable search and seizure (e.g., the bank account freezes without proper oversight).
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Welp, no way that one's not headed for the Supremes, eh. Some lawyers Justice Department will be putting in for some overtime, I suspect.
 
Mendalla said:
Welp, no way that one's not headed for the Supremes,
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The ball is in Carney's court - we'll see.

It is plausible that he will not call for appeal in hopes of letting it fade it into the background without much fuss.

I have not seen a public statement or direct response from Carney/Liberal government on the ruling yet.

Carney publicly supported tough measures like bank account freezes back in 2022.

He went as far as to call elements of the protest "seditious" in some commentary.

A government appeal to the Supreme Court would keep the issue alive longer.

It might be in the best interest of Carney to let this quietly slip away without a forced reckoning.

The "let it ride" strategy - IMO - could be the path of least resistance for the "new" Liberal government.
 
WhyCzar said:
I have not seen a public statement or direct response from Carney/Liberal government on the ruling yet.
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I think he's still in China or on the way home so might not have had a chance to talk to the relevant cabinet ministers and advisors yet. Letting it slide is feasible and deals with some potential PR problems continuing to fight it raises, but it also has an impact on how much room the government has to take action the next time a situation like that unfolds so a final ruling would be good for him to have so he knows for sure just what is allowed. Waiting until a crisis and then going to the Supremes would be even worse. At least doing it now with no crisis pending, he can frame it as clarifying the ruling for the next time rather than fighting it.
 
WhyCzar said:
4 judges ruling against the allowance already is Markedly not enough? :unsure:
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Legally speaking, the Supremes have the final word (no word on whether Diana Ross gets a say :ROFLMAO:). Yes, he could go the route of accepting the lower court rulings and PMs have done that before. OTOH, not having the SCC's imprimature means the door is not entirely closed to another go around. What if someone affected by a future "emergency" sues arguing the government didn't do enough to protect them? Sure, the appeals court ruling will help them in court but it could still end up at the SCC then. Why not close that door proactively?

To be clear, I am no fan of the convoy or the other protests involved and am a strong supporter of robust public health measures. But I also do think the government overstepped and am no fan of either the current act or its predecessor (the ominously named War Measures Act that Justin's father used in the FLQ situation in Quebec in the seventies).
 
And yet powers say there is no chaos and confusion at the top levels ...

It is a forced "unseen" ... blind something or other because of emotional options ...
 
Mendalla said:
Why not close that door proactively?
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Government abuses emergency powers, disparages their own citizens instead of engaging with them, and then attempts to run out the clock through prolonged litigation - proactive door closing democracy at it's finest.
 
Time will bore even the devil with all the corruption that isn't criticized ... cynical of me?

Thomas Payne ... no doubt ...
 
U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent is putting his endorsement behind Alberta separatism.
Alberta Opposition Leader Naheed Nenshi reaction to those comments.
 
Get Canada ... small bits at a time as bits are troublesome ...

Tis a mean time here as everyone goes against the other ... centrists are lost in deferential counter discussions that go badly ... thus rippers ...

Some stuff their pockets ... as conflict is profitable to a minor collective ... deep in their own fecundity ... stay out there is an option that is poly misunderstood as polyandrous ... when some become awoke there will be fecundity profuse ... the fey will have it ...
 
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