Was Jesus a Vegetarian?

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We are drawing close to Easter....the death and the resurrection of Christ.
Have you wondered if Jesus was a vegetarian? Would that change the meaning of Easter?
After all Jesus was a Nazorean (Essene) The Essenes followed scripture and devoted themselves to a loving and merciful God that valued the sanctity of ALL living creatures. They believed in reincarnation and were vegetarians. They were non violent and did not believe in war.

What if Jesus didn't die for our sins, but to end sacrifice?

 

[Luce NDs]

Did the light inflame the 40 shades of green and all were left with a tad of vertigo with what happened while rye in the sun ... or otherwise covering up de embarrassing point ...?

Some say love itself as a God is metaphorical in the physical manifestation of an awesome mess ...

 

[RitaTG]

...well ... there are a few problems with that theory.....
The stories about fish and Jesus eating the passover meal with his discip

We are drawing close to Easter....the death and the resurrection of Christ.
Have you wondered if Jesus was a vegetarian? Would that change the meaning of Easter?
After all Jesus was a Nazorean (Essene) The Essenes followed scripture and devoted themselves to a loving and merciful God that valued the sanctity of ALL living creatures. They believed in reincarnation and were vegetarians. They were non violent and did not believe in war.

What if Jesus didn't die for our sins, but to end sacrifice?


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...well ... there are a few problems with that theory.....
The stories about fish and Jesus eating the passover meal with his disciples....
Highly unlikely Jesus was a vegetarian....
However ... your final thought ..... why can it not be both??

 

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Okay, so what are some interesting thoughts about this:

-Wolves are carnivores, Lambs are herbivores. Jesus is the Lamb who came for the lost sheep.

- Isaiah 1:11-12 "What to me is the multitude of your sacrifices saith the Lord? I have had enough of burn't offerings and the fat of well fed beasts. I do not delight in the blood of bulls or or lambs or of goats. When you come to appear before me, who requires of you this trampling of my courts"?

- Jerimiah 7:22 "For in the day when I brought your ancestors out of Egypt, I did not speak to them or command them concerning burnt sacrifices."

- Hosea 8:13 " Though they offer sacrifices as gifts to me, and though they eat the meat, the Lord is not pleased with them, Now He will remember their wickedness and punish their sins. They will return to Egypt."

- When Jesus overturned the tables in the Temple......what were the money changers selling? Animals to be sacrificed.

-Jesus was pleased with the church at Smyrna....they were Essene Ebonites, who did not eat flesh and were against sacrifice.

 

[revjohn]

Have you wondered if Jesus was a vegetarian? Would that change the meaning of Easter?

GIven that the Passover meal featured lamb I would think Jesus was not a vegetarian.

I also do not think that Jesus being a vegetarian would change the meaning of Easter since Easter is the Christian celebration of the resurrection of Christ and not actually a food sourced celebration.

 

[revjohn]

What if Jesus didn't die for our sins, but to end sacrifice?

Not necessarily an either or.

Many of the "sacrifices" are acts of atonement for sins committed. Jesus dying for our sin is the sacrifice which atones so completely that no more sacrifice is required.

Up until Christ other sacrificial beasts are mere placeholders in a cycle that was ritually repeated. Jesus dies but the once on the cross.

 

[Waterfall]

...well ... there are a few problems with that theory.....
The stories about fish and Jesus eating the passover meal with his discip

...well ... there are a few problems with that theory.....
The stories about fish and Jesus eating the passover meal with his disciples....
Highly unlikely Jesus was a vegetarian....
However ... your final thought ..... why can it not be both??

Well I'm being devils advocate here.

There are two occasions that Jesus is said to have eaten fish and those were after His death and resurrection. The Greek word for fish is ICHTYS and it was used as an acronym for Jesus Christ Son Of God Savior. Supposedly there is historical evidence that all of Jesus' "fish" stories are to taken symbolically rather than literally.

 

[Waterfall]

GIven that the Passover meal featured lamb I would think Jesus was not a vegetarian.

I also do not think that Jesus being a vegetarian would change the meaning of Easter since Easter is the Christian celebration of the resurrection of Christ and not actually a food sourced celebration.

What did Jesus serve at the last supper (Passover)?

 

[RitaTG]

Well I'm being devils advocate here.

There are two occasions that Jesus is said to have eaten fish and those were after His death and resurrection. The Greek word for fish is ICHTYS and it was used as an acronym for Jesus Christ Son Of God Savior. Supposedly there is historical evidence that all of Jesus' "fish" stories are to taken symbolically rather than literally.

there is still the problem of the passover meal.
Also .... how could he condone the fishing and the cast the nets over the other side story?

 

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Not necessarily an either or.

Many of the "sacrifices" are acts of atonement for sins committed. Jesus dying for our sin is the sacrifice which atones so completely that no more sacrifice is required.

Up until Christ other sacrificial beasts are mere placeholders in a cycle that was ritually repeated. Jesus dies but the once on the cross.

But God hates sacrifice....and atonement for sins in the old testament doesn't require an animal sacrifice. It could be flour or coal etc.....

 

[RitaTG]

What did Jesus serve at the last supper (Passover)?

the traditional passover meal includes lamb and unleavened bread

 

[Waterfall]

there is still the problem of the passover meal.
Also .... how could he condone the fishing and the cast the nets over the other side story?

Again, symbolic.....does it mean something more to you or is it a literal story for you?

 

[Waterfall]

the traditional passover meal includes lamb and unleavened bread

But Jesus only offered wine and unleavened bread.....it appears it wasn't a tradition He followed.

 

[RitaTG]

But Jesus only offered wine and unleavened bread.....it appears it wasn't a tradition He followed.

dipped his bread in the dish (meat drippings)
The proper Jewish custom strictly required lamb
Just because only two food items were mentioned does not mean that other food items were not also present.
The bread and the wine were specifically mentioned in regards to the lesson being taught.

 

[RitaTG]

Again, symbolic.....does it mean something more to you or is it a literal story for you?

It is both to me..... literal ... yes
Symbolically ..... Jesus was to be the sacrificial lamb that was to die instead of us.
This would have deep religious significance to anyone of the Jewish faith.

 

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Waterfall ----your quote -----Have you wondered if Jesus was a vegetarian? Would that change the meaning of Easter?

to the first question No -----I agree with bot RitaTG and revjohn ------To the second question -----No -----Easter is all about the Shedding of the Precious Blood of Jesus ---to atone for our sins ------The Atonement for our sins started right from the get go when Adam and Eve sinned in the Garden and God had to slaughter 2 animals to get the skins to cover their naked bodies so blood was shed to cover their sin -----Easter is in no way associated with food that is eaten -----

Your Quote -------What if Jesus didn't die for our sins, but to end sacrifice?

If there is no sin then there was no need to sacrifice anything -----sacrifice was needed because of sin -------Jesus would not have had to be sacrificed if there was no sin involved ------it was to cover it so God could have some -----no one could be near to God unless they free from sin --------

I leave with this scripture -----We need to be cautious in what we question and in what we should believe --------

Galatians 1:6-10GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)

Follow the Good News We Gave You

6 I’m surprised that you’re so quickly deserting Christ, who called you in his kindness,[a]to follow a different kind of good news.7 But what some people are calling good news is not really good news at all. They are confusing you. They want to distort the Good News about Christ.8 Whoever tells you good news that is different from the Good News we gave you should be condemned to hell, even if he is one of us or an angel from heaven.9 I’m now telling you again what we’ve told you in the past: If anyone tells you good news that is different from the Good News you received, that person should be condemned to hell.
10 Am I saying this now to win the approval of people or God? Am I trying to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be Christ’s servant.

 

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Christian Hieronymous, Clement of Alexandria, Origen, Tertulliun, Boniface, Jerome, and John Chrysostom (early church fathers) were all vegetarians.

"It is far better to be happy than to have your bodies act as graveyards for animals" Clement

In the Clementine Homilies, is a second century work, based on the teachings of St. Peter:
"The unnatural eating of flesh meat is as polluting as the heathen worship of devils, with it's sacrifices and it's impure feasts, through participation in it, a man becomes a fellow eater with devils" Homily XII.


Many monasteries in ancient and modern times practice vegetarianism.

 

[revjohn]

What did Jesus serve at the last supper (Passover)?

Exodus 12 gives us a glimpse at the initial menu and it isn't very likely that Jesus deviated from that.

1 lamb per household and if that is too much lamb for one household you found neighbours who could help you eat a lamb. Unleavened bread (no idea how much). Bitter herbs (again no idea how much).

 

[revjohn]

But God hates sacrifice

Odd then that God would institute a sacrificial system isn't it?

and atonement for sins in the old testament doesn't require an animal sacrifice. It could be flour or coal etc.....

Not all sins are atoned by animal sacrifice that is true. Certain sacrifices could not be anything but the prescribed animal.

 

[Waterfall]

Odd then that God would institute a sacrificial system isn't it?

Very, which one is true. Does He hate it or not?