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In your view are you a true Chrit-ian?
No need to concern yourself about Whether I am a True Christian ----

You should only be concerned about yourself and If your a TRUE Holy Spirit Indwelled Christian -----cause the stakes are high in your end if your not -----all according to Scripture ---

Worry about where your Spirit and Soul are going ----not where my Spirit and Soul is going ---I will look after where I go ---you only need to be concerned about where your going to end up ----

That is my advice to you ----
 
The stakes?
Read your scriptures ----they tell you what the stakes are -----

Revelation 20 ----verses 11- 15 ----gives you your stakes ----your choice ---to your end

Now you don't have to believe it ---but you can't change what it says -----nor can you be sure what it is saying won't come to pass ---all you can do is play the Gambling Game ----and take your chances---
 
And here is my advice to you.

"It's not the seekers after truth that you should be wary of. It's the "finders.
You can think that -----but again --the seekers may seek to find the truth their whole life and when they die find out that the Truth they found was a lie ------

The Finders believed the Scripture which says it is truth and and when they die they find out the Scriptures were the truth ------

So I would rather be a finder ---than a Seeker --
 
This is one of the most damaging Greek ideas to make its way into Christian thought (yes, Plato and others the idea that the physical world is a poor reflection of a higher reality long before Jesus even lived). Why damaging? It devalues and denigrates the physical world, which is why we have so many Christians who care little for the Earth. They think it doesn't matter.. Heaven, or a new remade Earth, is what they are living for. Pollute the waters? Kill off whole species? f*** around with nature? As long as they get into Heaven, they don't give a s**t about the material world.

A view that sees our physical existence as integral to our being, vital to our existence is a far healthier one for the world and for us. And that includes accepting that our life is finite, something we share with all other beings. Science shows this to be true (in that it is an observation that can be easily replicated). Many other religions and philosophies accept it to be true.

Fortunately, there are schools of Christian thought that have broken with this sorry legacy of Greek thought and do embrace the idea that we are part of a vital, important physical reality and that metaphysics needs to support that connection, not dismiss or deny it. Too bad the idea lingers in so many others
When we Christians, @Mendalla, reduce the material world to a waiting room for heaven, we miss the incarnational truth.

God took on flesh. He walked dusty roads. He ate bread. He lived within physical existence! That affirms matter's sacredness.

I love Creation's sensory, lived beauty. The sand's feel. Water's sound. Squirrels' fleeting presence. To honour that's deeply aligned with faith
 
all you can do is play the Gambling Game ----and take your chances---
The rules of the game are simple.

Free will allows you play with the hand you are dealt.

If there is a God who wants me to know God then God has the power to deal me the hand that I need for my conversion.

I AM betting on it.
 
The rules of the game are simple.

Free will allows you play with the hand you are dealt.

If there is a God who wants me to know God then God has the power to deal me the hand that I need for my conversion.

I AM betting on it.
We, @WhyCzar, choose how to speak within the rules of the language we’re born into. God sets the framework, but we still play our part in the conversation.

Betting on God’s initiative's trusting that the dialogue won’t end in silence.

I appreciate the courage in your statement. It’s an active waiting, a willingness to let God’s grace be the decisive word.

Conversion's about God speaking into our lives in a way we can finally hear
 
Ah ... and the god of war said be silent and know that I am god ... and there all communication and socializing ended along with any sharing of things we didn't know that were incidentally ... yet, beyond us ... in the great unknown!

God does mess with the comprehension for reason no one understands ... if you can gather anything in a world of violence ... know when it is time to get out ... a type of alien sanction! Then you're out for sure ... rather like a PRION as the powers pray on such outcomes in self depreciating mode ... thus we dash forth with care into the 4th amendment setting up the walls afore us ... self-contained emotions? Lowered stress ...??? Unlikely ... then the thing departed ... abruptly broke out ... as the foul flies!

Unlikely stories given the stuff we've been fed without affirmation ... the hard matter is difficult to take ... that some day you too will be stilled ... having given up the essence as thought was reclaimed after emotional abuse ... the come-back routine?
 
The rules of the game are simple.

Free will allows you play with the hand you are dealt.
The rules of the game can also be hard to swallow ------if you don't have the right cards in your hand that are dealt to you ----- Free will allows you to make the choice to play the game safe and win -------or play the game at a risk and Loose in the end -----

Free will ----you choose ----Win or Loose with the hand that your dealt with ------your decision

You win with God and loose with Satan -----in your end -----like it or not ---believe it or not ----

So Take the risk and see where you land in your end -------:eek:


If there is a God who wants me to know God then God has the power to deal me the hand that I need for my conversion.

I AM betting on it.

Well your first 5 words say it all ------IF There Is A God -----this says volumes about you and your belief system -----


this next part you Quote here ------

who wants me to know God then God has the power to deal me the hand that I need for my conversion.

Here is where your wrong -----and shows your very confused as to the Free will you have been dealt ----


All the talk of your Free will and dealing with the hand you have been dealt --------and then you change your statement and lay the decision on God Convert you ----

Now that is just Toooo Funny ------ :ROFLMAO:


You say here ------IF--- there is a God ----who wants me to know God

I say
------Arrogant --Prideful statement here ------

Who do you think you are -----that God who made you should come after you ------such ignorance showing here ------

God doesn't need you WhyCzar------ You are the one who needs God ----

And He gave you free will to choose Him or the god of this world and by your Statement you have chosen the god of this world -----God is OK with your choice ---and you will reap the consequences of your own choice in your end ----


I say -------this next statement YOU made here ------
God has the power to deal me the hand that I need for my conversion.

I say -
---again the arrogance of your statement here is overwhelming

You talk Free Will and then expect God to show His power to Convert you ------OH MY !!!!!

God has given you the FREE choice to Accept Him or Reject Him and you choose to Reject Him and want Him to convert YOU -------

Well Good Luck with that Mentality -----i say -----

Cause unless you change your mind ----the hand your dealt will be your demise in your end ------

And what YOU say ------here ------I AM betting on it.

I send Right back to you ------
 
Many find God is far beyond the mortal ... although there are those that believe themselves capable of what's way out there ... that's power getting into a troublesome condition ... bad for the integral? Hogging power is something to be comprehensive about ... so go at it full will ... without Q' loose ... it is their determination ... some beware some do not ... God is very extensive ... and on the tear to remain beyond ... humans appear (incarnate) brutally!

Thus protocols ... indicating the difficulty in proto type ... hard matter! Resembles PRION ...
 
The rules of the game can also be hard to swallow ------if you don't have the right cards in your hand that are dealt to you ----- Free will allows you to make the choice to play the game safe and win -------or play the game at a risk and Loose in the end -----

Free will ----you choose ----Win or Loose with the hand that your dealt with ------your decision

You win with God and loose with Satan -----in your end -----like it or not ---believe it or not ----

So Take the risk and see where you land in your end -------:eek:




Well your first 5 words say it all ------IF There Is A God -----this says volumes about you and your belief system -----


this next part you Quote here ------

who wants me to know God then God has the power to deal me the hand that I need for my conversion.

Here is where your wrong -----and shows your very confused as to the Free will you have been dealt ----


All the talk of your Free will and dealing with the hand you have been dealt --------and then you change your statement and lay the decision on God Convert you ----

Now that is just Toooo Funny ------ :ROFLMAO:


You say here ------IF--- there is a God ----who wants me to know God

I say
------Arrogant --Prideful statement here ------

Who do you think you are -----that God who made you should come after you ------such ignorance showing here ------

God doesn't need you WhyCzar------ You are the one who needs God ----

And He gave you free will to choose Him or the god of this world and by your Statement you have chosen the god of this world -----God is OK with your choice ---and you will reap the consequences of your own choice in your end ----


I say -------this next statement YOU made here ------
God has the power to deal me the hand that I need for my conversion.

I say -
---again the arrogance of your statement here is overwhelming

You talk Free Will and then expect God to show His power to Convert you ------OH MY !!!!!

God has given you the FREE choice to Accept Him or Reject Him and you choose to Reject Him and want Him to convert YOU -------

Well Good Luck with that Mentality -----i say -----

Cause unless you change your mind ----the hand your dealt will be your demise in your end ------

And what YOU say ------here ------I AM betting on it.

I send Right back to you ------
See your desperation and trembling, @unsafe. I won't join your laughter, because the Good Shepherd leaves the ninety-nine to chase the one.

Beware of mocking the seeker. The Pharisees mocked too, and Christ answered them with mercy's parables.

If a man wagers his eternity on God’s pursuit, unsafe, let's not sneer at his gamble. Let's pray that Heaven's Hound runs him down.

The call to repent's urgent and real. Free will's healed only by grace
 
Beware of mocking the seeker. The Pharisees mocked too, and Christ answered them with mercy's parables.
And Jesus Christ called a Spade a Spade -----He called the the seekers out there Jaebius -----or have you forgot ----

Matthew 23----Pretty harsh words for the Seekers here -----

Seven Woes on the Teachers of the Law and the Pharisees​

13 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. [14] [b]

15 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!

You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.

16 “Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’

17 You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18 You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’

19 You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?

20 Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.

21 And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it.

22 And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it.

23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.

25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.

26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.

27 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.

28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30 And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!

33 “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

34 Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36 Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation.

37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate.

39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’[c]”

Jaebius ------Don't sugar coat Scripture it is bad for the Soul ---Preach truth like Jesus did ----Call a Spade a Spade when it appears -----
 
Hymised the two spirit in Eli Jah and Yah ... they way of you ... that missed Aye and the other ... blinded in the dash? Propagation occurred without further thought on the exponential activity being moderated by parsimmony ... brute ...

Go for the means to the end and get out earlier ... ease, steel away ... snip of in tent? Life under a cacti ... raised in comedy ... a rose garden?

The things winners expect from the opposed ... palls float ... and special eyes for peering through them urk ... Ural reflections ... polarizing ...
 
God doesn't need you @WhyCzar------ You are the one who needs God
"God" is a speculation.

I can see this from the many takes on the idea around the planet.

Your speculation has no more merit than mine.
 
Speculation draws speculators like crazy ... why the world is like that ...

Makes some of us question as God was unable to due to exponential will ... he peaked out ... non scientists and unobservers will not get it ...

Mess with the words a bit to assist their perceptions in going astray ... confusing diction ... they'll never notice! They didn't observe ...
 
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