Splintered

[unsafe]

If we really want to get technical with this, there is no such thing as "darkness" in a tangible sense. It is merely the absence of ligh

You are so right ------But you still have to make the choice to flick the Switch to dispell the dark at night time or you remain in the dark ------our choice ------can't blame anyone but yourself

 

[paradox3]

Nice try Mendalla
------your either in Faith or your in Fear

This is where I got the idea you were saying Faith and Fear are opposites.

 

[Delightful Life]

that is not what I an trying to get at ---I am trying to get you folks to stop blaming God or other people for your own eternal choice -----

"you folks"?
I have never blamed God
and lookie what Mendalla replied. It seems they don't blame God either

I'm rather partial to existentialism; we are responsible for our choices

I'm just suggesting rather it is more complicated than "Life" OR "Death"?

Man, Jesus' Christianity complicated and simple at the same time :3

 

[Mendalla]

It seems they don't blame God either

No, I do not. I reject certain conceptions of God and might blame people who hold those conceptions, but I don't blame God given I am don't even regard God's existence as proven or provable. People have used God to justify terrible things but that reflects on the people, not God. If there is one.

 

[unsafe]

I have never blamed God
and lookie what Mendalla replied. It seems they don't blame God either

Well that is good to hear -----cause many Mankind don't like taking the blame and responsibility for their own decisions and actions ---they play the Blame Game --so your in the minority ----

 

[timothyu]

I have certainly seen Satan explained as the personification of evil.

Like humans, just adversarial to the Will of God

 

[Luce NDs]

If one toggles the light and dark does the twilight zone come 4th? Maybe the means of conflict resolution if you are careful with the political bedmates ... from there the simple gets complex and somewhat disillusioned with reality ...

In the blending who gets it ...

Some belief in myth, mythology and abstract might assist those that are absolutely impressed they shouldn't look ... blind faith thus propagates !

It may be represented by a dark place between the ears ... on second thought can one toggle there?

 

[timothyu]

Nothing complicated between being self-serving and servitude. Man just like to create religions to complicate things and cover up the simplicity

 

[Delightful Life]

-so your in the minority ----

i don't know that i am in the minority as you write
i don't know many people
how many people oot of the 8 billion or so of us do you know? enough to say majority or minority? or can you read minds? probably not

 

[Luce NDs]

Nothing complicated between being self-serving and servitude. Man just like to create religions to complicate things and cover up the simplicity

In a group last week one 81 year old noted that as she gets more experience ... she noted her awareness of knowing large items of interest seemed to shrink to the point of knowing nothing. There we stopped and looked all around in awe of what was out there ...

That's a great deal to take in especially if you ability to learn is restricted by will not to ... verily a 2 way St.

Could be sainted ... as a sacred way ... back Allah?

 

[unsafe]

Mixing New Wine in with the Old Wine in an old wineskin is not good Folks ---Why ----Because it Splinters the New Wine and makes the New Wine less powerful ----you should never Put New Wine in an Old Wineskin so as to mix old wine with the new wine =====

Good Spiritual advice here ---wonder who really gets it ???????

 

[WhyCzar]

wonder who really gets it ???????

“You have power over your mind, not outside events.
Realize this, and you will find strength.”

Have a Nice Day Folks

​

 

[unsafe]

“You have power over your mind, not outside events.
Realize this, and you will find strength.

if your going to use something that someone else Quoted --your should really give them the Credit by posting who really said it -------

This quote you post is from

Marcus Aurelius Quotes. You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength.

AI ===says this about the our thoughts -------

We generally do not choose the individual thoughts that appear in our minds—they often arise spontaneously from subconscious processes, past experiences, and environmental stimuli.

Choosing Focus: You may not choose which thoughts appear, but you can choose which ones to nurture or discard.

Key Takeaway:
Think of thoughts as pop-up ads on the internet. You don't choose which ones appear, but you can choose whether to click on them (focus) or click "X" to close them (ignore)

Thanks for trying -----by Quoting
Marcus Aurelius Quotes

I say ---But Mixing New Wine in with the Old Wine in an old wineskin ---is not Spiritually speaking about the mind -----

 

[Luce NDs]

Sounds sort of whiney about the things of the great unknown that mere mortals do not have access to but will use propaganda to indicate they know everything (that is god of the inclusive) ... not a thing for those the declare the other excluded ...

It is an almost completely lost power ... as knowledge that goes down ... like that last tree of life ...

 

[Delightful Life]

Mixing New Wine in with the Old Wine in an old wineskin is not good Folks ---Why ----Because it Splinters the New Wine and makes the New Wine less powerful ----you should never Put New Wine in an Old Wineskin so as to mix old wine with the new wine =====

Good Spiritual advice here ---wonder who really gets it ???????

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More to add to the metaphorae (riffing on metaphor and amphorae, so literally a container of metaphor. ty ty):

Wineskins also get brittle over time, so there is a greater chance of the new wine as it ferments bursting the old wine skin, which means you would lose both

wine skins back then weren't cheap and they weren't luxury items --so if that happened, people wouldn't be devastated (as if it were a luxury item) but they would have seen it as an avoidable and wasteful loss

 

[unsafe]

Jesus spoke in Parables like this one --New wine mixed with Old Wine --to reveal the divine Message to His True Followers -----and they understood the underlying Divine Message of the Parables Jesus spoke --- while it was hid from those people who refused to have their hardened hearts changed to an acceptable Heart to receive the Gospel ----

And it is the same today -----Folks

Wineskins also get brittle over time, so there is a greater chance of the new wine as it ferments bursting the old wine skin, which means you would lose both

Good Try -----and what you say here could be the case for sure --as the old wineskin could burst open as you say ---and you would be left with no wine at all ---this would make sense in the human intellectual mind for sure ---

But is that the Divine Spiritual Lesson Jesus is teaching here ???????

Personally --I think the Metaphorical message of the wine and wineskin ----has a deeper Spiritual meaning that He is teaching to His True Followers ----

 

[Delightful Life]

Good Try -----and what you say here could be the case for sure --as the old wineskin could burst open as you say ---and you would be left with no wine at all ---this would make sense in the human intellectual mind for sure ---

i wasn't trying to subsume your message m'dear
adding to it :3
i yes/and you, not no
Jesus' message (any message) didn't come from nowhere tabula rasa -- i was curious as to wineskins from that era and culture so i shared that...it makes sense why one would not want to put new wine in old skins :3 one would'nt want to ruin both wine and skin
new wine is best in a new skin -- the new skin has a better chance of holding the new wine etc
you've got to stop assuming persecution here
its gotten to be a habit with you?
you are a valuable member here and that will never ever stop

 

[WhyCzar]

But Mixing New Wine in with the Old Wine in an old wineskin ---is not Spiritually speaking about the mind -----

Jesus used the metaphor for incompatibility between old Jewish legalism and his kingdom message. Marcus would nod at the wisdom of avoiding destructive mismatches and embracing appropriate renewal, consistent with his acceptance of impermanence and focus on what is rational and useful in the present.

 

[unsafe]

Jesus used the metaphor for incompatibility between old Jewish legalism and his kingdom message

So you think this wine and wineskin message means that old Jewish legalism and His kingdom message are incompatible ---

So what is the old Jewish legalism you speak of here and why do you think His kingdom message denotes incompatibility with old Jewish legalism ----?

 

[chansen]

We need a referee to determine which metaphor is correct.