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Who is ‘we’? Let me guess: “I don’t know. My mother told me so.” Or the other standby answer, “I can’t say because I’m reduced to less than nothing.”

Your mind is doing that. Yours. You cling to that response. And you’re messing with others in the process.

You can change if you want to because the real you is not imaginary, and isn’t so dark.
 
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Kimmio Laughterlove said:
Who is ‘we’? Let me guess: “I don’t know. My mother told me so.” Or the other standby answer, “I can’t say because I’m reduced to less than nothing.”

Your mind is doing that. Yours.
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Thus exhorted or rejected ... as subtle to what? Mores to unearth and turn over ...
 
You’re psychologically torturing me with mind games in every interaction and you don’t care. I do not want to be forced down your rabbit hole but I feel that you have forced yourself way too far into my life uninvited and insist on burrowing into my head with your infuriating games driven by your own biases. …and I do believe there’s at least a few more than one involved, not contained to this place, and I do sense evil hence the comment a couple of days ago - so I have to pay attention to your antics. I actually really wish your alter would go away (I almost said something much more rude). It’s evil of you and I’m not going to just take it.

I’m saying it in the vein hope others here will care how I’m feeling. They have some responsibility for hosting you. We all have responsibility for letting you run rough-shod.

You’re almost 80. How many more years of this shitty behaviour? Can you turn it around?
 
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Luce NDs said:
Should one know thy soul parts and soul mates intimately? That'll cause a storm.
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On "Know Thyself", Socrates wasn't put to death for keeping quiet; he died because he refused to bury his deep appetite for knowing soul parts, even when it caused a storm.

The real danger hits when that inner discomfort makes us project our own unexamined shadows onto someone else.

Turning another person's quirks into a personal threat, avoids heeding the Oracle and turning the mirror back on ourselves.
 
WhyCzar said:
On "Know Thyself", Socrates wasn't put to death for keeping quiet; he died because he refused to bury his deep appetite for knowing soul parts, even when it caused a storm.

The real danger hits when that inner discomfort makes us project our own unexamined shadows onto someone else.

Turning another person's quirks into a personal threat, avoids heeding the Oracle and turning the mirror back on ourselves.
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No he was put to death by Hemlock for being a bad role model and challenging authority.

But what if Luce is actually a bad role model? And his challenge to authority is just selfish petulance, and destructive?

I don’t heed the Oracle. I’m not interested in that s**t. I’ve met people who use that term who are also esoteric spiritual abusers - also archaic and misogynistic who are only avoiding themselves. So maybe my exhortation to Luce knowing himself is subtle to that and he needs to look in the mirror. I don’t think he knows himself. He knows a lot of book characters. And he’s developed an alter to cope - one that wants to communicate and be appreciated but simultaneously crosses boundaries and hurts people with its communication. It is something of a Frankenstein.
 
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“The most dangerous psychological mistake is the projection of the shadow onto others; this is the root of almost all conflicts.”
— Carl Jung
 
WhyCzar said:
“The most dangerous psychological mistake is the projection of the shadow onto others; this is the root of almost all conflicts.”
— Carl Jung
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Which is what Luce does. I’m not the one going on about it all the time.

As for the cult of the Oracle - thank you. You’ve cleared something up. Im curious, is it something talked about much in your circles where you are?
 
Luce NDs said:
I you read more into this thread you'll see I am inhibited on responding further due to a starship blast! One of those energy guns ...
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This is your thread
If someone is being abusive and harrassing you (violating both our Code of Conduct and general safe enough place here), you of all people, don't engage and report them

And all of you here if this is happening why let it happen (if that is happening)? If this is a cyclic recurring thing that keeps on happening again and again...

Why continue to enable it?

You have to decide what to do. Is it worth it this cyclic abuse that the person(s) either can't stop or won't stop

We don't have to keep trying to save them

You all have to decide what to do

Sorry for the derail. Please don't respond here as I don't want to clutter up WC's Sacred Poet's thread. If you want to discuss, make a seperate thread to discuss?

Joy and peace to you
 
WhyCzar said:
I have never heard of the cult of the Oracle.
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I looked up that name and it’s some ultra high control Christian paramilitary thing. I didn’t know about that either until an hour ago. What I’m talking about are new age adjacent people who use it as a tactic of group control to manipulate someone for their purpose, but blend into everyday life.
 
What I was talking about was the Oracle that pointed to Socrates.

Socrates modeled radical self-inquiry and Jung provided the map for doing it psychologically in the modern world.
 
@Luce NDs ,

I am interested in what you think really killed Socrates? If that is what you were really writing aboot instead of using it to allude to something else?

Glad to see you still are here, writing your sacred poetry. Man I miss Marnie -- she was the one who originally called you our Sacred Poet :3
 
Delightful Life said:
@Luce NDs ,

I am interested in what you think really killed Socrates? If that is what you were really writing aboot instead of using it to allude to something else?

Glad to see you still are here, writing your sacred poetry. Man I miss Marnie -- she was the one who originally called you our Sacred Poet :3
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What if Socrates was pure intellect and life is contrary to such essences! That could result in things being hard right to the bottom ... as with turtles! Recall mysteries are not popular with those that know all (authority) so there lies a sense of imperfection ... especially in the vision therein ... a layer inside that exposed ...

Even the biblical log states that intelligence and all associations are evil ... thus I am annihilated ... I am not really here as you believe ...

I do remember having some funny exchanges with Marnie ...
 
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