Started to change in official usage in the 80’s then society started to catch up.
The pressures on families with special needs
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Mrs.Anteater
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That might be the difference between british and canadian english. I was told “handicapped” is completely out in Canada.
paradox3
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Don't we still have "Handicapped Parking" here in Canada? I have never heard anyone call it Disabled Parking.
Mendalla
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In fact, the legal term on government documents and forms is "Accessible Parking". "Handicapped Parking" is colloquial at this point.
KayTheCurler
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Closer to the original discussion.................
there was a murder/suicide nearby recently.
The grapevine is claiming caregiver overwheln as Senior disabled partner caring for their disabled partner.
there was a murder/suicide nearby recently.
The grapevine is claiming caregiver overwheln as Senior disabled partner caring for their disabled partner.
BetteTheRed
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I am watching a horrible version of this play out two doors down; Early 80s, Mr has dementia, wanders and is mean. Mrs has terminal cancer and screwed up knees that they will not replace because of her terminal diagnosis. Grandson is trying to help.
Let’s really hope not!
JayneWonders
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My parents talked about ending it together.
Mom didn't hide her wish to die.
Mom didn't hide her wish to die.
With some it is a life-long battle to get over what was primitive and pagan release ... of one unto the other for future exposure ... reproduction? Then the adage for restrain, reuse and recycle ... circulation in closed circles? Tis a heart felt limitation ... that can be fatal to the larger Circe ... that is a domain beyond lessor circus ... like Latin ... few interpret!
I was dressed down by a medical professor for not going into medicine in some form or alternate! She said this was indicated in my gift of reading into complexity ... but excluded by protocol to follow lines tightly ... still ... it condensed!
Later to drift as vapor US? The latter will not integrate ... some Kohl in the Eve 'n iNG ... un-governed organization?
The "i" is critical as cyanosis ... blue sky syndrome ... deep in all directions ... then we fall off ... fallacy like you never imagined ... illogical! Happens like nothing ...
Complex impression with a stiff ... the myths that will spin out of that ...
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Maybe it has to do with knowing so many senior people nowadays, but I find the ‘wish to die’ talk toxic and contagious, and inappropriate and selfish here in the same thread as discussions of murder-suicide involving disabled children! Smarten up. Do you even recognize the problem? It’s so fricken gross that it always comes back to the wishes and needs of the adults in discussion: the parents, the seniors making plans. The kids are going to fall through those cracks in understanding. Full on dangerous societal narcissism. If you don’t want to potentially care for disabled kids, don’t have kids. Those parents in the OP should’ve received help. Their kids certainly should’ve been helped and probably removed from the home. They were people, too. It wasn’t about the parents’ own needs first but they made sure of it, and decided for them. The community failed, society failed - that’s what it’s about. This thread is not about yours or your parents’ death wishes or ailments - but it always goes there.
If it were non-disabled kids and overstretched parents there’d be outrage. It wouldn’t turn into personal musings like this thread has.
If it were non-disabled kids and overstretched parents there’d be outrage. It wouldn’t turn into personal musings like this thread has.
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Might it be the great demand to be individual and isolated and thus collectivism dissipates? There ... that's degraded ...
It’s not my wish - if that’s your understanding it’s flawed and perhaps missing empathy for the reluctance. One can be an individual in a collective. You should know. How are you helping it get better? There are different collectives.
I have no trouble with empathy ... but surely I'm denied ... I was tossed out years ago ...
You have community and family.
BetteTheRed
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OK, I have a few comments on original article.
1. Situation happened in Australia, so talking about cultural norms and social supports presumes we know a lot about Australia which we don't.
2. Two non-verbal 'spectrum' male teenagers sounds like a frighteningly violent situation. I have friends and family on the spectrum. But
non verbal is on the less functional end, and testosterone is a very difficult hormone to defuse during the puberty years.
Very clearly, there were tragic mistakes made in supporting this family. But we don't know what was inside all of their heads.
1. Situation happened in Australia, so talking about cultural norms and social supports presumes we know a lot about Australia which we don't.
2. Two non-verbal 'spectrum' male teenagers sounds like a frighteningly violent situation. I have friends and family on the spectrum. But
non verbal is on the less functional end, and testosterone is a very difficult hormone to defuse during the puberty years.
Very clearly, there were tragic mistakes made in supporting this family. But we don't know what was inside all of their heads.
No we don’t, but two kids were killed by their parents and then killed themselves. It can be assumed that they weren’t getting the care they needed obviously. Your personal example just sounds like you’re making excuses, as if those kids matter less, as if it’s the kids’ fault. All “western” countries are failing at community support.
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Whatever was going through their heads was wrongheaded - not well - and social conditions that contribute to that need to change, not be normalized. When? How? will that happen?
Mrs.Anteater
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That’s the point. Murder -suicides happen also in families that don’t have disabled children. Because it’s in one parent’s head. This family had plenty of money to pay for support. It could have been one parent being invisibly sicker than any other family member.
There, the situation is nailed: "we don't know" is the primary curiosity.
Myself; I have lived in some very precarious situations (because of parental behaviour) ... however it seems that everything I do is blamed on me ... especially if I question the parietal factor (that unknown in the back of the head).
The enigma is if you pose anything that looks like a question about what's past ... you are smeared ...
Now my father took off because my mother had psychological problems ... why I do not know ... but folks deter me when I investigate ... perhaps because of their fear about what I will discover about animal behaviour?
This could disrupt the Muse ... blow it o fractals ... when? Thus the vast "if" statement ... everything becomes uncertain regardless of those that say: "all is well" a rather deep item to unravel. But here I am lord trying to unravel the mess ... against considerable hesitation to learn of such things. Knowledge is accepted as a dangerous factor ... if you know anything there will be powers wishing for a stand-down, or to put you down ... thus I capitulate as humbled and work from the bottom line of the dirt that befalls me as mire nonsense ... all else is spatial ... is that clear?
Alas with the heat of multiple desires ... a fog collects as esteemed ... so the lesser are screwed by the lawmakers who laid it on ... heavy handed?