The Revelation of Jesus Christ

[WhyCzar]

We don't have the mind to comprehend God's Mind

But you do have the mind to translate God's word?

So explain why God tells us to obey the government but in the end the government calls us to go to war against God and God is then going to overcome the government that God told us to obey.

 

[WhyCzar]

He has substantially more responsibility than the rest of us.

He has no authority over your individual choices.

 

[unsafe]

The truth, biblically speaking, is we’ve all sinned. The world was primed for it - God’s choice in Genesis, to put two trees and a snake in there - he wrote it in, we’re told. By the biblical account God set us up for it, so we could later experience the wrath of judgment.

For those who are able to hear let them hear----with spiritual understanding ----for those who have eyes to read let them read with Spiritual visual understanding ----

The human mind is not capable of Spiritual hearing or seeing --

So what you have written here Kimmio is right for your intellectual hearing and seeing -----you live in the world and think like the world as do all who have not the Spiritual hearing or seeing ----
This is why true followers of the Way are not to Judge those who live according to this world as they are living rightly ---seeing and hearing rightly for their worldly understanding ---of what the scripture is saying -----you won't get this but others might ------

Why did God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden? | GotQuestions.org

Why did God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden? If God knew that we would sin, why did He give us the possibility?

www.gotquestions.org

Why did God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden?​

God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden to give Adam and Eve a choice to obey Him or disobey Him. Adam and Eve were free to do anything they wanted, except eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Genesis 2:16-17, “And the LORD God commanded the man, ‘You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.’” If God had not given Adam and Eve the choice, they would have essentially been robots, simply doing what they were programmed to do.
God created Adam and Eve to be “free” beings, able to make decisions, able to choose between good and evil. In order for Adam and Eve to truly be free, they had to have a choice.

There was nothing essentially evil about the tree or the fruit of the tree. It is unlikely that the fruit, in and of itself, gave Adam and Eve any further knowledge. That is, the physical fruit may have contained some vitamin C and some beneficial fiber, but it was not spiritually nutritious. However, the act of disobedience was spiritually deleterious. That sin opened Adam’s and Eve’s eyes to evil.

For the first time, they knew what it was to be evil, to feel shame, and to want to hide from God. Their sin of disobeying God brought corruption into their lives and into the world. Eating the fruit, as an act of disobedience against God, was what gave Adam and Eve the knowledge of evil—and the knowledge of their nakedness (Genesis 3:6–7).

God did not want Adam and Eve to sin.
God knew ahead of time what the results of sin would be.

God knew that Adam and Eve would sin and would thereby bring evil, suffering, and death into the world. Why, then, did God allow Satan to tempt Adam and Eve? God allowed Satan to tempt Adam and Eve to force them to make the choice.

Adam and Eve chose, of their own free will, to disobey God and eat the forbidden fruit. The results—evil, sin, suffering, sickness, and death—have plagued the world ever since. Adam and Eve’s decision results in every person being born with a sin nature, a tendency to sin.
Adam and Eve’s decision is what ultimately required Jesus Christ to die on the cross and shed His blood on our behalf. Through faith in Christ, we can be free from sin’s consequences, and ultimately free from sin itself. May we echo the words of the Apostle Paul in Romans 7:24-25, “What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!”

 

[unsafe]

But you do have the mind to translate God's word?

No I do not -------I have the INDWELLING of the HOLY SPIRIT ---Who is the only one who can give me the Rhema word of the scripture -----the Spiritual meaning behind the Logos word ------

So God gives the believer the ability to understand the Spiritual meaning of the Scripture ---no human on their own can do that they do not have the Spiritual mind of God nor can they grasp it ----

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1 John 2:27 highlights that
believers possess a permanent "anointing"—the Holy Spirit—which indwells them and provides true, reliable instruction on spiritual matters, reducing reliance on false teachers. This internal guidance ensures believers know the truth and are empowered to remain in Christ, rather than needing external, deceptive teachings.

 

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So explain why God tells us to obey the government

Romans 13 =====read it

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

He has no authority over your individual choices.

You’re saying an authoritarian dictator doesn’t have authority over individual choice (not directly mine, unlike the ICE raids he’s ordered in the US) but his executive decisions are seriously affecting the whole world) ?

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

For those who are able to hear let them hear----with spiritual understanding ----for those who have eyes to read let them read with Spiritual visual understanding ----

The human mind is not capable of Spiritual hearing or seeing --

So what you have written here Kimmio is right for your intellectual hearing and seeing -----you live in the world and think like the world as do all who have not the Spiritual hearing or seeing ----
This is why true followers of the Way are not to Judge those who live according to this world as they are living rightly ---seeing and hearing rightly for their worldly understanding ---of what the scripture is saying -----you won't get this but others might ------

Why did God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden? | GotQuestions.org

Why did God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden? If God knew that we would sin, why did He give us the possibility?

www.gotquestions.org

Why did God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden?​

God put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden to give Adam and Eve a choice to obey Him or disobey Him. Adam and Eve were free to do anything they wanted, except eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Genesis 2:16-17, “And the LORD God commanded the man, ‘You are free to eat from any tree in the garden; but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat of it you will surely die.’” If God had not given Adam and Eve the choice, they would have essentially been robots, simply doing what they were programmed to do.
God created Adam and Eve to be “free” beings, able to make decisions, able to choose between good and evil. In order for Adam and Eve to truly be free, they had to have a choice.

There was nothing essentially evil about the tree or the fruit of the tree. It is unlikely that the fruit, in and of itself, gave Adam and Eve any further knowledge. That is, the physical fruit may have contained some vitamin C and some beneficial fiber, but it was not spiritually nutritious. However, the act of disobedience was spiritually deleterious. That sin opened Adam’s and Eve’s eyes to evil.

For the first time, they knew what it was to be evil, to feel shame, and to want to hide from God. Their sin of disobeying God brought corruption into their lives and into the world. Eating the fruit, as an act of disobedience against God, was what gave Adam and Eve the knowledge of evil—and the knowledge of their nakedness (Genesis 3:6–7).

God did not want Adam and Eve to sin.
God knew ahead of time what the results of sin would be.

God knew that Adam and Eve would sin and would thereby bring evil, suffering, and death into the world. Why, then, did God allow Satan to tempt Adam and Eve? God allowed Satan to tempt Adam and Eve to force them to make the choice.

Adam and Eve chose, of their own free will, to disobey God and eat the forbidden fruit. The results—evil, sin, suffering, sickness, and death—have plagued the world ever since. Adam and Eve’s decision results in every person being born with a sin nature, a tendency to sin.
Adam and Eve’s decision is what ultimately required Jesus Christ to die on the cross and shed His blood on our behalf. Through faith in Christ, we can be free from sin’s consequences, and ultimately free from sin itself. May we echo the words of the Apostle Paul in Romans 7:24-25, “What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!”

Again, why would a loving God put them up to that?! That’s not love.

 

[unsafe]

the Revelation of Jesus Christ ----also gives you a description of what heaven is like --

Who wouldn't want to be living in this place ----this is the new Earth coming ------


Holy City

11 It shone with the glory of God, and its brilliance was like that of a very precious jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal.

12 It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel.

13 There were three gates on the east, three on the north, three on the south and three on the west.

14 The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

18 The wall was made of jasper, and the city of pure gold, as pure as glass.

19 The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone. The first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the third agate, the fourth emerald,

20 the fifth onyx, the sixth ruby, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth turquoise, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst

21 The twelve gates were twelve pearls, each gate made of a single pearl. The great street of the city was of gold, as pure as transparent glass.

23 The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp.

24 The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it.

25 On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there.

26 The glory and honor of the nations will be brought into it.

27 Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Literally, not. I’d be stuck with 144,000 fundamentalists and it’d be so bright I’d never get any sleep.

 

[unsafe]

Again, why would a loving God put them up to that?! That’s not love.

You will never grasp it Kimmio --------it is beyond your worldly mind set ---you only understand worldly love and of course you think this is not Love as you perceive it -----

God says this ---

Isaiah 55:8 EXP
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8 The Lord says, “My thoughts are not like your thoughts.
Your ways are not like my ways.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

What you describe, if taken literally, is a guilded jail.

Symbolically in a dream, it’s supposed to represent something coveted, glorious, I get that. But it sounds like…well…the Vatican? Pretty to visit, wouldn’t want to be confined to living there. I’m not that boujee.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

You will never grasp it Kimmio --------it is beyond your worldly mind set ---you only understand worldly love and of course you think this is not Love as you perceive it -----

God says this ---

Isaiah 55:8 EXP​

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8 The Lord says, “My thoughts are not like your thoughts.
Your ways are not like my ways.

Okay.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

What you describe, if taken literally, is a guilded jail.

Symbolically in a dream, it’s supposed to represent something coveted, glorious, I get that. But it sounds like…well…the Vatican? Pretty to visit, wouldn’t want to be confined to living there. I’m not that boujee.

Plus, wouldn’t anybody feel bad about us poor suckers who didn’t get admitted? @unsafe

You’re right. I don’t understand.

 

[Luce NDs]

Plus, wouldn’t anybody feel bad about us poor suckers who didn’t get admitted? @unsafe

You’re right. I don’t understand.

That's what it is like to be gilded ... hung up on wealth? Kind of professional builder ... real estate broker ... or the likes!

Then there are the deconstructionists as a thorn ... a tiny little tine or Con Stan Tyne ...?

 

[unsafe]

What you describe, if taken literally, is a guilded jail.

Again ---you will never get it Kimmio -----it is beyond what your worldly mind can comprehend-----it will never fit what your worldly perception is living in this wicked world -----and believe me this world is wicked ---and we humans made it wicked -----but you will never grasp that mindset ----

wouldn’t anybody feel bad about us poor suckers who didn’t get admitted?

your not admitted by your own choice ------but God would feel very bad that you made your own choice not to live in His domain

As God wants all people to live in His House ----but not all people like yourself want to reside there -----you choose ---Life or death -----your choice -----God gave us choice





But again you won't grasp that because of your worldly way of thinking ----

 

[WhyCzar]

but his executive decisions are seriously affecting the whole world

To give the devil his due:

Donald Trump's administration has pursued aggressive territorial and influence ambitions.

Primarily focused on the Western Hemisphere and the Arctic.

Emphasizing U.S. dominance in its "near-abroad".

Trump's EOs shape U.S. policy.

The U.S. is currently the world's largest economy, aid donor, and military power.

So yes, Trump's "choices" do create real-world consequences near and abroad.

Such as disrupted aid, higher trade costs, shifted alliances, etc.

No Trump EO enforces the "whole world" follow it like a law.

Foreign nations respond based on their own interests,.

They can do this through diplomacy, retaliation, or adaptation.

Every "minority of one" (and every voluntary collective they form) can govern themselves.

There can be no one worldly ruler - no one mark of the beast - without compliance.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

I get that people made it wicked - and still do, increasingly. I don’t believe a loving God would put us up to that - it’s abusive. I don’t believe in that kind of God. That sounds clearly like a human reflection.

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

To give the devil his due:

Donald Trump's administration has pursued aggressive territorial and influence ambitions.

Primarily focused on the Western Hemisphere and the Arctic.

Emphasizing U.S. dominance in its "near-abroad".

Trump's EOs shape U.S. policy.

The U.S. is currently the world's largest economy, aid donor, and military power.

So yes, Trump's "choices" do create real-world consequences near and abroad.

Such as disrupted aid, higher trade costs, shifted alliances, etc.

No Trump EO makes makes the "whole world" follow it like a law.

Foreign nations respond based on their own interests,.

They can do this through diplomacy, retaliation, or adaptation.

Every "minority of one" (and every voluntary collective they form) can govern themselves.

There can be no one worldly ruler - no one mark of the beast - without compliance.

Trump being a human being. I’m just saying, because he’s POTUS his burden of responsibility to make good decisions should be higher, not the same or lower.

 

[WhyCzar]

Romans 13 =====read it

I have read it and I disagree with it on principle - just like Jesus did.

Historically, scholars widely agree the Romans executed him for perceived sedition.

Systems (then or now) often crucify (literally or figuratively) those who refuse to align with the dominant narrative, whether it's a lone dissenter against empire, majority opinion, or centralized control.

 

[Luce NDs]

An the Unsafe way is the only way to do it ... collapse? Even temples are wrote of by those wishing a larger edifice ... consider the examples in reality!

It is said that God was responsible for several Jew Drained constructs ... power is blamed by the understanding under crew ... hypoed?

Pode in some tongues means "it could be" but not necessarily so ... thus quantum piousness ... by chance! A trip on the eternal railroad with the midnight gambler ... really we get to nowhere in that context ... and without an item to worry about ...

Imagine being responsible for a Parthenon ...