Where is your faith at?

[Luce NDs]

Hubris vs nemesis? Then one would have to have a bit of mind (piece of sole) to see that ... something that thinks ... God declaring knowledge is evil and there ... we lose it! Bug ah ...

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Hubris vs nemesis?

They both attack those who just want to try to make things better, more fair. They both attack the messenger, those trying to speak up about major injustices in the world.

 

[unsafe]

Hubris ---well it describes worldly people's mindset to a tee ---how they think and act ---

Hubris
Definition: An excessive, arrogant pride that can lead to challenging the gods or other authorities. It involves an overestimation of one's own abilities and importance.

Characteristics: It can manifest as insolence, contempt for others, and a belief in one's own self-righteousness. The opposite concept in ancient Greece was sophrosyne, which means moderation, self-control, and humility.

Examples: The mythological story of Arachne, who was a skilled weaver that boasted her abilities were superior to the goddess Athena, leading her to be transformed into a spider after a weaving contest.

I say --------Describes Biblical unbelievers to a tee -----who think they don't need a Saviour to Correct their Arrogant Prideful selves ------rejecting a God who laid His life down so that they could have eternal life instead of eternal wrath ----which they deserve for their Arrogant Prideful Stinking Thinking ---


Nemesis ---Well Describes The punishment that Worldly people;s mindset deserve for their Arrogant Prideful Stinking Thinking ------

Nemesis
Definition: The punishment or ruin that befalls someone who has committed acts of hubris.

Personification: Nemesis is the goddess of divine retribution, revenge, and vengeance.
She is seen as a force that restores balance by punishing those who have become too proud or have overstepped their bounds.

Characteristics: Nemesis can be a punitive force, bringing about humiliation, suffering, or ruin to correct imbalances in human affairs caused by hubris.


I say ----Describes to a tee what befalls on the people living in this world with their Arrogant Prideful mindset who are unbelievers who feels they don't need a Saviour to correct their Arrogant Prideful Stinking Thinking mindset -ways------and are bringing all that comes against them ----Upon Themselves -----

But because of their Arrogant Prideful Stinking Thinking Nature they have to Blame Others and God for all their sufferings and where and who they will end up with in the end ------

 

[Luce NDs]

They both attack those who just want to try to make things better, more fair. They both attack the messenger, those trying to speak up about major injustices in the world.

That's the medium ... both ends hate the middle! Thus polar devices develop to allow a portal ... something to pass? It was like that lady dwelling in the wall ... the arch way? One psychologist called it an arch sign ... the delinquency projection as a gross moan ...

Ridiculous but close to life as it can metaphorize ... that's change right? Some stuff never changes or learns anything ... thus some of us move on while others stick to the existing dirt! It is of the essence ... very thin material to proceed upon ... delicate bridge?

The span to nowhere? Twas deep ... and we remain unknowing of what's at the base ...

Sometimes the Wahl is quite thin ... that separation device!

 

[Luce NDs]

Hubris ---well it describes worldly people's mindset to a tee ---how they think and act ---

Hubris
Definition: An excessive, arrogant pride that can lead to challenging the gods or other authorities. It involves an overestimation of one's own abilities and importance.

Characteristics: It can manifest as insolence, contempt for others, and a belief in one's own self-righteousness. The opposite concept in ancient Greece was sophrosyne, which means moderation, self-control, and humility.

Examples: The mythological story of Arachne, who was a skilled weaver that boasted her abilities were superior to the goddess Athena, leading her to be transformed into a spider after a weaving contest.

I say --------Describes Biblical unbelievers to a tee -----who think they don't need a Saviour to Correct their Arrogant Prideful selves ------rejecting a God who laid His life down so that they could have eternal life instead of eternal wrath ----which they deserve for their Arrogant Prideful Stinking Thinking ---


Nemesis ---Well Describes The punishment that Worldly people;s mindset deserve for their Arrogant Prideful Stinking Thinking ------

Nemesis
Definition: The punishment or ruin that befalls someone who has committed acts of hubris.

Personification: Nemesis is the goddess of divine retribution, revenge, and vengeance.
She is seen as a force that restores balance by punishing those who have become too proud or have overstepped their bounds.

Characteristics: Nemesis can be a punitive force, bringing about humiliation, suffering, or ruin to correct imbalances in human affairs caused by hubris.


I say ----Describes to a tee what befalls on the people living in this world with their Arrogant Prideful mindset who are unbelievers who feels they don't need a Saviour to correct their Arrogant Prideful Stinking Thinking mindset -ways------and are bringing all that comes against them ----Upon Themselves -----

But because of their Arrogant Prideful Stinking Thinking Nature they have to Blame Others and God for all their sufferings and where and who they will end up with in the end ------

No sign of that here ... all that exists are the uprights ... a chore to get over! One needs to extend the span ... if one ends up on such uprights will that approximate a pile or a shafting? How to get off that position ... there is the stake and the burning aspiration of those wishing to lead without knowledge of consequences ... just numb fates as faith? It is a striking phenomena ... phantastic bi times when excess causes explosions and then collapse ... BANG? Down in tho*ud ... udder subtleties ... all in the sad sack ... Sadducean (bagged)? Some relate this to haggis and Haggai ... as a bait for a festive occasion ... extended consumption ... ap pleats? When the gambler called for folding ... them wrinkles in the night ...

Wrinkles are something else ... like waves below the horizon of visibility ... like chasing Turrs in NFLD. That's a bird on the water ...

 

[unsafe]

many here like Greek Methodology -----

Well=== Finally ------- here is your Female goddie---NOT -----MALE balancing the scales of wickedness in her world =====she came with a Sword and scales of Justice to rid the world of wicked thinking people ------

 

[paradox3]

many here like Greek Methodology -----

Mythology?

Since we are talking about our faith journeys here, I will add that I am (more and more) starting to see both the OT and the NT as mythological.

Not to say that there isn't any historical truth to some of the OT and NT accounts.

This means that our viewpoints are getting more divergent all the time, Unsafe. But I have surely appreciated your input on Snoopy's bible study threads.

After reading and discussing approximately 20% of the bible here, Snoopy will be hanging up his typewriter. At least for a while.

 

[Luce NDs]

many here like Greek Methodology -----

Well=== Finally ------- here is your Female goddie---NOT -----MALE balancing the scales of wickedness in her world =====she came with a Sword and scales of Justice to rid the world of wicked thinking people ------

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And the great pool of unsure folk take a stab at it without much extended etude ... it do take a multitude to raise a child ... a social order that powers love to disrupt ... picture the limited book as a mortal tome ... the book of the dead? Is it a farce ... light beyond the distant abstract? That's imagination ... sometime oiled other times ... well you know !

 

[Luce NDs]

Like a Tangle in Paris ... well pare down ... bare sol? No thing tous it ... immaterial? Dark energy because you can't see it come about and around ... but it does ... with vast complexity like all that which' soude there ... beyond? BPD ... edgy folk ...

 

[unsafe]

Since we are talking about our faith journeys here, I will add that I am (more and more) starting to see both the OT and the NT as mythological. that is your right to do so ------

Very Good ----you have every right to view the OT and NT as you like -----

Not to say that there isn't any historical truth to some of the OT and NT accounts.

--question
Are We Humans that smart that we can determine what is Historical truth and what to discard as Historical truth in the OT and NT ???

So How would you self determine by your Faith what is Historical truth and what isn't ----in Scripture ---any examples ???

This means that our viewpoints are getting more divergent all the time, Unsafe

Well yours and others Maybe -----

BUT

Not My view point ----I will remain steady -grounded and rooted where my view point is -----as it works so well for me ----Love my life of Health ---joy---peace ---happiness and prosperity --so my view point is to keep my life grounded in the Vine ----who supplies the goodness ----

But I have surely appreciated your input on Snoopy's bible study threads.

And I have surely Appreciated your hard work and effort you put into those studies ----it is a major task that You Do Very Well ---your certainly a big Asset to this Sight in my View ===

After reading and discussing approximately 20% of the bible here, Snoopy will be hanging up his typewriter. At least for a while.

And a Well deserved rest it is -----Acts was a feat to complete -----and you did it with Honor and grace ----

 

[paradox3]

Discerning the historical truth is a tall order for sure. Didn't Wesley say we need to consider tradition, personal experience and reason in all matters of faith?

From a research point of view here are two websites I have found very helpful...

My Jewish Learning
Reddit Academic Bible

The latter is a highly moderated sub (community) on Reddit with actual scholars/ authors participating.

This would be a good spinoff thread if you wanted to start one @unsafe

 

[unsafe]

Discerning the historical truth is a tall order for sure.

I would say it is ------can human Discernment ---discern the Spiritual ?????

Didn't Wesley say we need to consider tradition, personal experience and reason in all matters of faith?

Well --What Faith are we talking here --Intellectual or Spiritual ---big difference in the 2 ---

My Jewish Learning
Reddit Academic Bible

The latter is a highly moderated sub (community) on Reddit with actual scholars/ authors participating.

This would be a good spinoff thread if you wanted to start one @unsafe

You might very well be right here ---

But not interested in starting any threads on this subject -----

Just was curious as to what you yourself would pick out of Scripture and say ---that is Historical Truth and this is not Historical Truth ----that is why i ask if we humans are qualified to make that determination -----cause I don't think we are and I don't think John Wesley or any other so called Scholar is qualified to make that determination -----but that is just my view -----

We would have to claim to be God to make that determination -----my opinion

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

Hubris

No sign of that here ...

 

[Luce NDs]

Mythology?

Since we are talking about our faith journeys here, I will add that I am (more and more) starting to see both the OT and the NT as mythological.

Not to say that there isn't any historical truth to some of the OT and NT accounts.

This means that our viewpoints are getting more divergent all the time, Unsafe. But I have surely appreciated your input on Snoopy's bible study threads.

After reading and discussing approximately 20% of the bible here, Snoopy will be hanging up his typewriter. At least for a while.

I was directed by a reputable water treatment expert some years ago that you should never tell the truth ... such virtues are never believed ... thus insert it in a story and make folk dig for it ... thus virtue is often found all wet and clean!

 

[Luce NDs]

If one is delegated to a necessity of being better than yourself and doing it assertively ... what's the chance of being laid out in bed with a senator as the characters in Caesar's Rome ... very penetrating situation! Your skewered before you even start ...

Imagine a man stuck on the end of a stick and the Burger loving the smell of the roasting --- Dean Martin ... martin relating to a weasel or wessel (given the Nordic phonetics)! Us common people are not allowed many clues on anything ... Less on nothing! Not a bit of evidence yet we swear to it.

This weekend some US reps are saying the people in politics are knuckleheads ...

Who is slowest in the WOKE process? Your guess ... I am not allowed to venture there ... they say I'm too probing for my awn good and yet the battle against drugs goes on with the release of more incarcerated drug folk ... the interactions are bound to increase! Knuckleheads ... how does one come to such respect?

 

[unsafe]

Hubris ---well it describes worldly people's mindset to a tee ---how they think and act ---

Hubris
Definition: An excessive, arrogant pride that can lead to challenging the gods or other authorities. It involves an overestimation of one's own abilities and importance.
Characteristics: It can manifest as insolence, contempt for others, and a belief in one's own self-righteousness.

No sign of that here .

Now That is Just TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-----------LUCE--------

 

[chansen]

Now That is Just TOO FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does somebody want to tell her?

 

[unsafe]

Does somebody want to tell her

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[BetteTheRed]

unsafe, I'm not sure of your ability to be self aware. Don't see much of it.

A person who is aware of the individuality and specificity of their own reactions/beliefs/behaviours due to their personal history is more likely to accept the inner ambiguity of understanding that there are other very different beliefs. And that those beliefs not only deserve tolerance, but respect and celebration for being more wonderful fruits of the diverse human imagination, especially that centred in love.

All my relations.

With all due respect, unsafe, we are all True Believers in our very own unique belief system. Shalom and Ubunte and Namaste to all who somehow look for the divine amongst all the pain and fear and greed that makes up human reality.

 

[unsafe]

we are all True Believers in our very own unique belief system

and that is fine by me ---have your belief Systems ---it matters not to be ----I don't care what you and others believe -----I have my own Belief System and it works perfect -------so you all can have all the goddies and faiths you want to believe in and----- I say good luck with all your goddies and your faith ------
I am still going to Post what I believe and what my God says in His Word which I believe ----No one has to read what I post ---there is an ignore button that is there to use ----so use it ------

So post your beliefs as I do -----I am attacked for Posting God's word which says it is Truth and I believe it to be the Truth ---


You can and mostly all do here disagree with God and His word ----But your not hurting my feelings or my belief ------

If you people have a problem with God's word then you need to complain to God ---not me ----I just truly believe what the word says and that it does what it says ---Cause I follow it and put it into practice ---

You all have Free Will do accept or reject what the Bible says -same as I did ---I have accepted it --you all can reject it if that is what you want to do -----I don't care -----

You all don't have to like God or His word ---as far as I am concerned ----

And that those beliefs not only deserve tolerance, but respect and celebration for being more wonderful fruits of the diverse human imagination, especially that centred in love.

Well with this statement that you make here ---

I say -----You should practice what you preach here for the True followers of the Way -

Who have worked hard and dedicated themselves to Christ who truly Agapes God with all their Heart --Soul --Mind and Strength and who are very interested in researching Scripture and relying on the Holy Spirits direction for the Spiritual meaning of the Scripture and Maturing in their Faith so that it is grounded and rooted in them to serve God and to do HIS WILL -----

No Tolerance ---no Respect and no Love shown on this sight for that person ----all they get is criticism and and backlash for posting Scripture that they believe in ---and others don't like so attack --attack ---attack

Get this -----I have never told anyone that they have to believe what I believe -----

I always say ---Have your belief ---or ----if that is what you believe then that is what you believe but it is not what I believe

With all do Respect ----------The Tolerance --Respect and Love BetteTheRed ---needs to work both ways here -----just saying