Where is your faith at?

[chansen]

In that case, carry on. You're a great example of why I oppose faith, and exhibit A now that the others are gone.

Please stick around. You fulfill that role wonderfully.

 

[WhyCzar]

Jesus never taught that you can have eternal freedom from mastering your own mind

How about INternal freedom?

 

[paradox3]

The Minister Yesterday said ---to his flock - ----giving his flock something to chew on -----about Faith

Faith that brings true freedom== is a Fairy Tail --IF Jesus who is the Word is NOT your source of it --------

So true freedom is possible without Jesus but without Jesus it's a fairy tale???

That doesn't make sense to me. Wouldn't it be untrue freedom if it's a fairy tale?

Or did you mistype, perhaps?

 

[unsafe]

true freedom is possible without Jesus but without Jesus it's a fairy tale???

No --- so read this carefully ---it makes perfect sense if you understand it ----

I guess you need spiritual discernment to understand the Minister's message ----

The Minister Said
Faith that brings true freedom== is a Fairy Tail --IF Jesus who is the Word is NOT your source of it -

So if Jesus is not your source of your Faith that brings True Freedom --then that Faith is a fairy tale ---
So a Fairy Tales serves a purpose but it is not classed as a true story -----

So the faith that is a Fairy tale ----is intellectual Faith cause intellectual Faith is a non producing Faith -----intellectual faith serves a purpose for being in this Physical world but ir cannot Save you --nor will it bring you Spiritual blessing or God's promises

the Faith Jesus provides by and through his word Produces all Spiritual blessings and all Spiritual promises ----and Salvation

God's Producing Faith comes from His word ---who is Jesus ------so Jesus is the source of the faith you receive from his word ----

Jesus is the author and finisher of His Faith ----so His Faith is not a Fairy Tale it is true and alive

Hope this helps your understanding ----

 

[unsafe]

How about INternal freedom?

IF you Receive Jesus as your Lord and Saviour ---you will have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit who's job it is to bring you to a place of Internal Peace --joy -- happiness and prosperity --If you------Condition Here -------- adhere to the Word and obey the Holy Spirits Direction to grow into that internal Freedom --

Internal Freedom doesn't just come to the person when they become Born Again ---they have to grow Spiritually some as they are on the milk of the Scripture and are still greatly influenced by the world ----but as they Grow in their Faith by being in the Word -who is Jesus --the Holy Spirit helps them to achieve that internal freedom -- relieving them from their internal ----doubts --fears --anxiety ---etc that this would lays on us --------

 

[Kimmio Laughterlove]

That is so nice of you, considering they are so hateful. But then Hitler was an artist too.

Unsafe does put a lot into the wild presentation of her posts. That’s all I was saying. I wasn’t talking about the content. If only the content was satire - it does come across that way from a particular angle.

 

[WhyCzar]

the Holy Spirit helps

I can work with that.

 

[unsafe]

Unsafe does put a lot into the wild presentation of her posts.

I was just answering the WILD Presentations of the Posts that you people Presented to Me ---with the same Wild Presentation REPLIES -----Pray Tell -----

 

[WhyCzar]

Pray Tell --

Have you been mixing your metaphors?

 

[Waterfall]

Philippians 4:11-13
"I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want.
I can do all this through Him who gives me strength."

In other words, allow God's grace and peace to rule....is freedom

 

[Luce NDs]

True Spiritual Freedom is freedom from the bondage of this world and it's god Satan---

True Spiritual Freedom is a state of liberation from worldly sufferings that are brought on by negative thoughts -Doubts and fears --

it Frees us from the Stresses and anxiety of this world that cause sickness and disease --

Frees us from bondage to all man made Religions who preach and teach legalism ---

It Frees us from People bondage ---

Frees us from EGO ----

Frees us from having no control over our emotions -----

Frees us from sin --and the power of sin over our lives ----

Frees from being eternally separated from God for all eternity -----

Then people can do as they will without a hint of being held responsible ... understood to be upright as supported from where?

Substantially from down there ... or it wouldn't stand at all!

With poles like these is the medium just a page in time corrupted by wear and tear of the bad rubs? Explains unguent and fatty ointments ... slick!

Then if you insist on "not" knowing does something go delinquent because of overblown desires of the child within? Blast ... its big un ...

 

[Luce NDs]

Unsafe does put a lot into the wild presentation of her posts. That’s all I was saying. I wasn’t talking about the content. If only the content was satire - it does come across that way from a particular angle.

Angle ... angles are critical on whether the thing will reflect of refract ... otherwise optically bent all to an elle point (L) that's sunk in, depressed as the pits ... with a bend it forms an anchor and your hooked! Word can do that from a strong person that spreads terror ...

It is the root of drug wars because nothing divines like fear so you can examine the portions that you gathering by rapine or raking it in ... some use Broom as in One Flew Over ... the presentation of the critical element in a story that goes well ... and thus it is gone! Cuckoo as retained cuck-hold 'd ...

Nurse that thought ... about bowing to the gods of medi sin ... and someone will be kewed ... ay least cute ...

In word may be found anything imaginable ... a sign? Stuff for extensive examination, or polyhtude! (the h is a separate ... a spacer) Some may even say a multitude on the hill sliding ... because of the slope ... / ... dashing? A snow job ... usually is because mortals have no solid truther they are all spirited ... up an going before you know it ... Dunne gone ...

 

[Luce NDs]

Philippians 4:11-13
"I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want.
I can do all this through Him who gives me strength."

In other words, allow God's grace and peace to rule....is freedom

Then there are those that there is never enough -- that Bloom guy (blossoming)?

Then is a hole in a spirit ... in essence a hard object if all things have an opposing form? Some people reflect badly on their responsibility without logos ... the word of logistics and where to put the comprehension?

No one wants it and thus ignorance reins ... it must be bound ... and where to put it? By god we might be surprised to discover it ... well buried and sacred ... in a red bag! A hot story in a sack ... like a coal transported by the fire keeper ... should be tended to ... always! Thus tous ... c' tout? As CZar ...

 

[unsafe]

Philippians 4:11-13
"I am not saying this because I am in need, for I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances. I know what it is to be in need, and I know what it is to have plenty. I have learned the secret of being content in any and every situation, whether well fed or hungry, whether living in plenty or in want.
I can do all this through Him who gives me strength."

In other words, allow God's grace and peace to rule....is freedom

That is it in a nut shell ------

Question ?????
So Tells us how you yourself allow God's grace and peace to rule in your life every day so that you are continually at that peace and contentment that goes beyond all human understanding as the scripture says here in verse 7 when trials and tribulation come into your midst -------

Philippians 4---- verse 6-7 says -----

6 Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.

7 And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

WOW ! that would be an amazing feat ----- to have that Freedom -----
Question
What happens if we don't have our Mind and Heart ----in Christ Jesus ????------can we still have that beyond all human understanding peace and contentment ----???


The Scripture you Quote here says ----

I can do all this through Him who gives me strength."

Question ----
What happens if we don't have HIM (Jesus) to go through ---can we still have that strength to do all ??????

There are many people today who Don't want Jesus Christ in their lives -----do they have the same benefits -----as the people who do want Him in their lives -------??

 

[Luce NDs]

Be calm die in a dead sweat ... this was initiated by the first Inquisition!

Few know anything about questions and don't know them because across time none were allowed ...

Some say it was related to terrorism and others deny such things!

 

[unsafe]

I can work with that.

the way you can work with that is if you have that

 

[WhyCzar]

the way you can work with that is if you have that

There are no gatekeepers to stop me from having access to that (source).
When it blows my way I work with it.

 

[unsafe]

When it blows my way I work with it.

Nice try but no Cigar -----no one can work with the Holy Spirit ----the Holy Spirit WORKS within the Person in the New Testament ------

And the Holy Spirit is not the wind like you and others think it is ----Not one Scripture says the Holy Spirit blows on People -----like the wind

Here is he scripture that you and others use for the Holy Spirit blowing on you ---as you take it out of Context and try to say what you want it to say ------

read the context and see that Jesus is just Comparing the Effects -- of the wind to people who ARE_____BORN OF THE SPIRIT _____which is someone who is BORN AGAIN

John 3:8
Amplified Bible
The wind blows where it wishes and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it is coming from and where it is going; so it is with everyone ----who is----- born of the Spirit.”

AI

Jesus compared being "born again" to the wind
to show that the Holy Spirit's work is powerful, invisible, and sovereign, just as the wind's effects are visible but the wind itself cannot be seen or controlled.


This is the full context -----this is about becoming re born in the Spirit ---not about the Holy Spirit being wind -----

John 3
​

Jesus Teaches Nicodemus​

3 Now there was a Pharisee, a man named Nicodemus who was a member of the Jewish ruling council.

2 He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him.”

3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.

4 How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”

5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.

6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit] gives birth to spirit.

7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’

8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.

9 “How can this be?” Nicodemus asked.

10 You are Israel’s teacher,” said Jesus, “and do you not understand these things?

I say ------Nicodemus couldn't grasp the Spiritual meaning as he had not the right faith ----nor the right heart to spiritual understanding -----

 

[unsafe]

are no gatekeepers to stop me from having access to that (source).

OH yes there is----- Jesus is the gatekeeper -to access to the Holy Spirit --and if you reject Jesus ---you reject the Father as Jesus and the Father are one and the holy Spirit comes from the Father and the Son --so if Jesus is rejected ---God is rejected ---- Period

 

[GordW]

@unsafe I know this has been asked before but it should be asked periodically. Are you willing to admit that there is not, never has been, one single "right" understanding of Christian theolog and so others can have a different understanding and still be faithful Christian folk?