Canadian election and other political stuff

[Mendalla]

I just wish most news sources would get a filter and not report half of all this worthless garbage click bait.

Is it garbage clickbait when it's the leader of a major superpower, though? Ignoring him could be perilous. It's a conundrum because coming from anyone else, I would agree with you. But this guy is getting the nuclear keys in 2 weeks and his party has majorities in both houses, though cracks are already starting to show on that front.

Back to Canada, the next election is going to be at least partly, if not wholly fought, on who can best deal with four years of Trump in power in our largest trading partner.

 

[WhyCzar]

What am I missing

The Gulf of Mexico will be renamed to "Gulf of America"

 

[Mendalla]

The Gulf of Mexico will be renamed to "Gulf of America"

Yeah, I heard that. He can order the USGS to change their maps but not sure the rest of the planet will follow suit.

 

[GordW]

Yeah, I heard that. He can order the USGS to change their maps but not sure the rest of the planet will follow suit.

AND it would hardly be the first time some geological feature had had more than one name...

 

[WhyCzar]

Trump doesn't "appear" to be intimidated by any leader in any country....and that's not an advantage , but a huge character flaw.

Donald Trump’s ability to manipulate the news cycle is not an accident; it is a deliberate strategy honed over decades. Whether proposing to rename the Gulf of Mexico, acquire Greenland, or entertain Canadian statehood, his outlandish ideas are not merely distractions—they are tools of power.

By dictating the terms of the national conversation, Trump ensures that his political victories remain shielded from undue scrutiny, his opponents remain on the defensive, and his base remains energized.

In an era where information flows faster than ever, Trump’s mastery of the art of distraction serves as a reminder that in politics, as in war, controlling the narrative is half the battle. And as long as the media continues to take the bait, Trump will remain the undisputed maestro of America’s chaotic, cacophonous news cycle.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1876753449179594895

 

[Waterfall]

Donald Trump’s ability to manipulate the news cycle is not an accident; it is a deliberate strategy honed over decades. Whether proposing to rename the Gulf of Mexico, acquire Greenland, or entertain Canadian statehood, his outlandish ideas are not merely distractions—they are tools of power.

By dictating the terms of the national conversation, Trump ensures that his political victories remain shielded from undue scrutiny, his opponents remain on the defensive, and his base remains energized.

In an era where information flows faster than ever, Trump’s mastery of the art of distraction serves as a reminder that in politics, as in war, controlling the narrative is half the battle. And as long as the media continues to take the bait, Trump will remain the undisputed maestro of America’s chaotic, cacophonous news cycle.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1876753449179594895

Well whoever wrote that review knows how to turn a phrase beautifully don't they? Seems they've read a few books unlike Trumps target audience......perhaps the person who wrote it should be an ambassador for Trump....he/she makes Trump sound amazingly brilliant.

 

[Luce NDs]

Is powerful bullying something that imitates heroes or Nero's ...

We do appreciate smokers it appears when picking our ideals. Maybe an earthy thing ...

 

[Mendalla]

And with only two weeks for candidates to enter the race to replace Trudeau, the who's in/who's out game is under way. Finance Minister Dominic Leblanc and External Affairs Minister Melanie Joly are out. MP Chandra Arya and former MP Frank Baylis are in. All eyes are on Chrystia Freeland, Mark Carney, and Christy Clark (former BC Liberal premier) as possible frontrunners. There's a bunch of other cabinet ministers considering running, too.

Maybe I should join the Liberal Party and run. First gorilla to lead a G-7 country.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/cana...1&cvid=3b576cff398f49bb8422c54d827f0011&ei=17

 

[WhyCzar]

the who's in/who's out game is under way.

Under way to tying a bow on the liberal gong show?

There is a court challenge, a leadership race, a lame duck PM, and doomed MP's continuing to make fools of themselves on national TV.

Maybe I should join the Liberal Party and run. First gorilla to lead a G-7 country.

Who in their right mind would drop $350k to be prime minister for a week?

 

[Mendalla]

court challenge

Which most legal experts think will fail. There's really nothing especially wrong with this proroguing vs. any previous ones.

a leadership race

Which is actually going to be interesting because there isn't necessarily an obvious coronation going to happen.

a lame duck PM, and doomed MP's continuing to make fools of themselves on national TV

Well, yeah, but that's hardly news anymore, eh.

Who in their right mind would drop $350k to be prime minister for a week?

That's the biggest question, I think. As I commented earlier, if I was a big contender like Freeland or Carney, I might almost sit this one out and let someone else be 2025's John Turner, then jump in when they go down in flames.

 

[WhyCzar]

Which is actually going to be interesting

Not to me it isn't.
We should be in an election, not a damn leadership race of a failed party.
This is ridiculous.

 

[Mendalla]

Not to me it isn't.
We should be in an election, not a damn leadership race of a failed party.
This is ridiculous.

Agreed but this is all Canadian politics happening largely as designed. I can almost guarantee a Conservative would have played the game (and it is, basically, a game) similarly in a similar situation just based on what we have seen in the past. Short of a major overhaul of the system, we'll keep seeing things play out like this.

 

[Luce NDs]

Is a failed party an indication of a collapsing system ... given some of the indications, signs and symbols of large powers?

Can power escape judgement? There is a item that power is a corrupting force ... a $200 pass go ... consider Rome!

 

[BetteTheRed]

Agreed but this is all Canadian politics happening largely as designed. I can almost guarantee a Conservative would have played the game (and it is, basically, a game) similarly in a similar situation just based on what we have seen in the past. Short of a major overhaul of the system, we'll keep seeing things play out like this.

And really as a system, it's not awful. I don't even think it would/need change in a proportional voting system.

I'll tell you that unless they have a leader upon day of de-proroguing that pushes to push through the bills that the Bloc are pissed about, it's definitely a spring election, and one that I cannot imagine PP losing. Carney's in for leadership race; he'll get it, I guess.

 

[Luce NDs]

G' Aimis; are dark shots! John Nash elaborated on the business of game theory ... be an outlier ... Black Swan! They copy Gabriel ... didn't observe that coming dijah? As life is a gamble ... we appear as overdriven by ridiculous standards and erroneous tenants of roue'L! Total mist understanding ... as stood there ... the greatest Aye ... yes M'n? Damn that's out there ...

Industry is blind to the human resource factor ... therein supply and demand ... balance that! Yet, avarice prevails in the absolute ... the abstract said to be unreal! Yah have to experience that ... you cannot be shown or told about it because it wouldn't be accepted by them up there ... shoved into it ... by Eire?

It is a demi urge ... 2 - 2, or Tu-Tu ... let the Dan's begin ... flames erupt ... not to close now ... bonnie fires, spatial?

 

[WhyCzar]

While the selfish liberal government is holding Canadians hostage Premier Danielle Smith visits Donald Trump at Mar-a-lago.

Nice to see the Premiers diplomatically stepping up given the lack of any credible federal leadership.

I am beginning to wonder if we really need a federal government.

 

[Mendalla]

I am beginning to wonder if we really need a federal government.

If we don't, are we even a country? If we had a Mulroney or Chretien in the PMO, I think things would be different. Both were much stronger in their handling of foreign relations, including with the US. Even Trudeau's father was better, if a bit quixotic in what issues he chose to tackle.

But with a vacuum in the PMO and Trudeau's weakness in foreign relations, the premiers stepping up doesn't surprise me. After all, they are probably impacted more directly than Ottawa if Trump's tariffs go through.

The problem is that the provinces may be going for different things that could conflict with each other, leading to a worse outcome for some than if Canada as a nation went in with a united front. I know there's already been some testiness between Ford and Smith.

 

[WhyCzar]

If we don't, are we even a country?

Is a post national state a country?

“There is no core identity, no mainstream in Canada,” Trudeau said, concluding that he sees Canada as “the first post-national state.”

 

[Luce NDs]

While the selfish liberal government is holding Canadians hostage Premier Danielle Smith visits Donald Trump at Mar-a-lago.

Nice to see the Premiers diplomatically stepping up given the lack of any credible federal leadership.

I am beginning to wonder if we really need a federal government.

Why not let things run wildly ungoverned ... wait a minute isn't that a conspiracy? Like John Brown's runaway train ... where would the gathering of wealth be managed more poorly? Out there ... thus the extension urge ... beyond that we know little ... just because ...

 

[WhyCzar]

This is the leader of the NDP tweeting about Premier Smith's meeting with Trump.

Nothing to see here, Canada. Just Canadian Conservatives celebrating with Donald Trump and Billionaires — days after they threatened to annex Canada. And, just days before they launch a full-scale assault on the Canadian economy, jobs and your family. - Jagmeet Singh
5:00 PM · Jan 12, 2025
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