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Some individuals are marked by an extraordinary capacity for failure, their every action a testament to poor judgment and unrelenting incompetence. This kind of person is consistently risible, not because of any deliberate attempt to amuse, but because their choices and behavior so consistently border on absurdity that laughter becomes an almost involuntary response.

There are two individuals here in this forum, who fit this description with perfection.
Mentioning no names, however, one once referred to himself as crazy and now he believes he is numinous and the other is not safe. Make from that what you will.

Their mistakes are not occasional missteps, but a defining characteristic. In work, in conversation, and even in private moments, their actions lack thought or foresight. They confuse simplicity for ease, underestimating every task while overestimating their own abilities. Their errors are not momentary lapses but part of an ongoing cycle, where no lesson is learned, and no wisdom is gained.

What makes them particularly exasperating is their inability to recognize their own folly. Self-awareness, a trait that might temper their ineptitude, is entirely absent. Instead, they press on with confidence entirely disproportionate to their competence, oblivious to the mockery that follows in their wake.

There is no tragedy in their failures, for pity cannot extend to someone so consistently absurd. Nor is there joy, for their blunders lack charm or wit. They are a spectacle, but one devoid of value, an ongoing reminder of how thoughtlessness and arrogance combine to create someone irredeemably foolish and forever risible.

Thus there comes upon us in this hopeless field of trump-like nature ... an urge to nurture our way out and leave but another hole in the great, formless void.

This may raise a question in the abstract form is a hole a rather hard thing to assume as it may appear as a stone whipping through open space?

That could cause vert Egos in some poses ... poesy?
 
Some individuals are marked by an extraordinary capacity for failure, their every action a testament to poor judgment and unrelenting incompetence. This kind of person is consistently risible, not because of any deliberate attempt to amuse, but because their choices and behavior so consistently border on absurdity that laughter becomes an almost involuntary response.

There are two individuals here in this forum, who fit this description with perfection.
Mentioning no names, however, one once referred to himself as crazy and now he believes he is numinous and the other is not safe. Make from that what you will.

Their mistakes are not occasional missteps, but a defining characteristic. In work, in conversation, and even in private moments, their actions lack thought or foresight. They confuse simplicity for ease, underestimating every task while overestimating their own abilities. Their errors are not momentary lapses but part of an ongoing cycle, where no lesson is learned, and no wisdom is gained.

What makes them particularly exasperating is their inability to recognize their own folly. Self-awareness, a trait that might temper their ineptitude, is entirely absent. Instead, they press on with confidence entirely disproportionate to their competence, oblivious to the mockery that follows in their wake.

There is no tragedy in their failures, for pity cannot extend to someone so consistently absurd. Nor is there joy, for their blunders lack charm or wit. They are a spectacle, but one devoid of value, an ongoing reminder of how thoughtlessness and arrogance combine to create someone irredeemably foolish and forever risible.
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Same Old Replies ----you only have ONE UNDERSTANDING and it comes from the god of this WORLD --his NUMBER IS

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Same Old Replies ----you only have ONE UNDERSTANDING and it comes from the god of this WORLD --his NUMBER IS

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Swinging Heat Wave GIF by lilcozynostril

Remember the diabolical toil is in the detailing of the myth ... and finding Lucifer is something other than your "-ism" allowed ... a black abriel ... in Greek that'd be g(amma) briel ... it is a shady following ... much to be explained there, but not accepted by those wishing to maintain simplicity in a complex order.
 
I love it when someone I mention in my post #80. Rears up their head and inadvertently proves my point.
At the same time, they misunderstand atheism, assuming that lacking belief in their god doesn’t necessarily mean rejecting all aspects of their religious framework. Lol.

Atheists typically reject belief in both god and the devil for the exact same reason, lack of evidence. This makes their argument even more imbecilic, as their confusion stems from projecting their religious assumptions onto atheists. But at the same time, it also renders their nature all the more risible.
 
Atheists typically reject belief in both god and the devil for the exact same reason, lack of evidence.
And one can be a theist and still not believe in a devil. The Devil is really a very specifically Christian understanding of a figure from Jewish mythology (Satan). There might be a bit of the Zoroastrian Ahriman in there, too. Belief in the Devil does seem to edge dangerously close to dualism at times.
 
@Pavlos Maros be aware that @unsafe responds to you but has had me on mute since Obama. You're not nearly as scary or threatening to her faith as I am.

This makes their argument even more imbecilic, as their confusion stems from projecting their religious assumptions onto atheists.
Can you choose a different word? That's becoming nails-on-a-chalkboard.
 
I love it when someone I mention in my post #80. Rears up their head and inadvertently proves my point.
At the same time, they misunderstand atheism, assuming that lacking belief in their god doesn’t necessarily mean rejecting all aspects of their religious framework. Lol.

Atheists typically reject belief in both god and the devil for the exact same reason, lack of evidence. This makes their argument even more imbecilic, as their confusion stems from projecting their religious assumptions onto atheists. But at the same time, it also renders their nature all the more risible.
Can't resist ---had to Repost ----cause it is the same old Responses ---Seriously --you need to drop your Old same Responses ----they are worn out ---- :ROFLMAO:
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Sleepy time ===tired of these same old lame Responses ---you need to do better and support what you spit out ----

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Satan has you Hooked --and you haven't a Clue ---so Funny :ROFLMAO:

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MAybe we could stop with all the insults completely and just say we disagree or find the argument lacking.

Sure. Except that it's the same argument every single damned time. Unsafe: ""GotQuestions" says the answer to this question, is "blah blah blah". That's the true word of God and you are all wrong because you are humans and not spirits."

Unsafe, I reject your total reliance on GotQuestions for every answer and your apparently total lack of ability to use the presumably perfectly good brain with which God endowed you.

Better?
 
Folks remember in a world that hates intellectualism and worships putting stupid Peter-like points (thorns) in power ... is emotional chaos is God ... then intellectual process can be nothing but diabolical to those that don't like the process of tho't ... right? Maybe devilfish ...

Wasn't Peter a sort of fisherman? Lord the brutality of it all ... and the blind follow! Well ... it was a dark pool they were rooting around in ...
 
Here is a biblically and historically sound detailed critique of an online film defending cessationalism.

jae. I'd be very impressed if jae would respond.
 
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Here is a biblically and historically sound detailed critique of an online film defending cessationalism.

jae. I'd be very impressed if jae would respond.
Doubt it, Mystic. I mean, you've already on WC2 insulted me, insulted my faith, insulted my school, and insulted my position on the secondary issue of Spiritual gifts.

You seem to me to want to enter into a debate with me over continualism/cessationism. The thing is, I'm just not all that interested in having such a debate. I'm cool with the belief that all of the gifts continue. It isn't one that I hold, but I live and let live
 
Doubt it, Mystic. I mean, you've already on WC2 insulted me, insulted my faith, insulted my school, and insulted my position on the secondary issue of Spiritual gifts.

You seem to me to want to enter into a debate with me over continualism/cessationism. The thing is, I'm just not all that interested in having such a debate. I'm cool with the belief that all of the gifts continue. It isn't one that I hold, but I live and let live

Well, you did say you would respond the Youtube lecture, but you have a right to change your mind. lOK, I promise I won't respond to what you say about the detailed case made by the video.

But understand this: the issue is deeply personal for me. If I had to believe in cessationism, I would conclude that God's failure to do miracles and work through sign gifts today warrants the inference that God and Jesus never did this in the biblical era and that biblical miracle stories are just myths that evolved to justify belief. History is a discipline based on the principle of causality and analogy, that is, we must use modern analogies for a correct interpretation of what happened in distant history. That's why the many miracles I have encountered, some more spectacular than Gospel miracles, are important for my faith.
 
Well, you did say you would respond the Youtube lecture...
Where?
but you have a right to change your mind. lOK, I promise I won't respond to what you say about the detailed case made by the video.

But understand this: the issue is deeply personal for me. If I had to believe in cessationism, I would conclude that God's failure to do miracles and work through sign gifts today warrants the inference that God and Jesus never did this in the biblical era and that biblical miracle stories are just myths that evolved to justify belief.
How so? The idea that the gifts ceased absolutely suggests that at one time they were in operation.
History is a discipline based on the principle of causality and analogy, that is, we must use modern analogies for a correct interpretation of what happened in distant history. That's why the many miracles I have encountered, some more spectacular than Gospel miracles, are important for my faith.
Thank you for sharing your perspective
 
In my NDE and ADC thread, when I suggested starting a thread on cessation, you said in post 110;
"I'll read it and will probably respond"
How so? The idea that the gifts ceased absolutely suggests that at one time they were in operation
Because if I thought comparable miracles weren't happening now, I would find it irrational to believe they happened back then.
 
In my NDE and ADC thread, when I suggested starting a thread on cessation, you said in post 110;
"I'll read it and will probably respond"
Said I will probably respond to a new thread if you would start one.
Because if I thought comparable miracles weren't happening now, I would find it irrational to believe they happened back then.
I believe God does do some miracles today, but I hold that the Spirit of God no longer distributes the sign gifts, because they're no longer needed
 
Sure. Except that it's the same argument every single damned time. Unsafe: ""GotQuestions" says the answer to this question, is "blah blah blah". That's the true word of God and you are all wrong because you are humans and not spirits."

Unsafe, I reject your total reliance on GotQuestions for every answer and your apparently total lack of ability to use the presumably perfectly good brain with which God endowed you
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Unsafe, I reject your total reliance on GotQuestions for every answer and your apparently total lack of ability to use the presumably perfectly good brain with which God endowed you

maybe this will calm your nerves --this is straight from Jesus ----a kindergarten student's brain could understand this and speak it out with no problem -----

John 15:5

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I am the Vine; you are the branches. The one who remains in Me and I in him bears much fruit, for [otherwise] apart from Me [that is, cut off from vital union with Me] you can do nothing.

You BetteTheRed can reject everything ---I have no issue with that ---good luck with your rejecting ----May it give you worldly peace and worldly joy ----

This says what Rejection really is for Spiritual Truth

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The truth is that there are a few folk that would like to control all thinking and thought ... so they could take advantage of avarice ... they will share nothing, especially cooperative control of the paradigm ...

We are exposed to such control bullies just for the experience ... then we learn ... painfully of course what happens when giving control of your intelligence over to the powers ...

It appears to be perhaps the root od ignorance, innocence and other forms of stupidity that we fall into as blackout zones. One psychiatrist instructed me that these may manifest on dark zones in cognizance ... what the profession calls psychotic ...

One may evolve words for psychotic psyche from this ... or other forms of paranoia of learning ... thus we lose it ... and the devil takes all so you know where intelligence lies ... don't abuse it! Use it with respect and appreciation ... and maybe its other end will not bite you ...

It is a complex enigma for those wishing it is all rendered down to simple ... it's not ... that's life!
 
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