GENESIS: Snoopy's Short & Snappy Review
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Hello again. Here is Genesis 25
Snoopy's Snappy Review:
First the family trees
Then a tale of twins.
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Isaac and Rebekah have been childless for 20 years. When Isaac prays that she will become pregnant, it happens! And it's twins!!!
Even in the womb, these two struggle. God explains to Rebekah that she is carrying two great nations within her. One will be stronger than the other.
At the birth, Esau emerges first. He is a red and hairy baby. Jacob comes next, holding on to the heel of his brother.
Esau grows up to be a skilled hunter and is the favorite of his father (who loves meat). Jacob "lives in tents" and is even-tempered. He is favored by Rebekah.
One day Esau returns from hunting and finds that Jacob has prepared a lentil stew. He is hungry and exaggerates the situation. He claims to be famished and dying.
Jacob proposes a swap. A bowl of stew for Esau's birthright. Because he does not value his birthright, Esau agrees. He eats and drinks and goes on his way.
Snoopy's Snappy Review:
First the family trees
Then a tale of twins.
Bible Gateway passage: Genesis 25 - New English Translation
The Death of Abraham - Abraham had taken another wife, named Keturah. She bore him Zimran, Jokshan, Medan, Midian, Ishbak, and Shuah. Jokshan became the father of Sheba and Dedan. The descendants of Dedan were the Asshurites, Letushites, and Leummites. The sons of Midian were Ephah, Epher...
Isaac and Rebekah have been childless for 20 years. When Isaac prays that she will become pregnant, it happens! And it's twins!!!
Even in the womb, these two struggle. God explains to Rebekah that she is carrying two great nations within her. One will be stronger than the other.
At the birth, Esau emerges first. He is a red and hairy baby. Jacob comes next, holding on to the heel of his brother.
Esau grows up to be a skilled hunter and is the favorite of his father (who loves meat). Jacob "lives in tents" and is even-tempered. He is favored by Rebekah.
One day Esau returns from hunting and finds that Jacob has prepared a lentil stew. He is hungry and exaggerates the situation. He claims to be famished and dying.
Jacob proposes a swap. A bowl of stew for Esau's birthright. Because he does not value his birthright, Esau agrees. He eats and drinks and goes on his way.
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What do we make of this one? I am left with the impression that Esau is the more robust of the two brothers. And that Jacob is a bit of a sneak.
Did Esau despise his birthright because he expected to get by on his hunting prowess and his physical strength?i Did he imagine that being Isaac's favorite would always get him through?
Or was he just young and impulsive? Not appreciating his heritage and his privilege perhaps?
Interesting this is the third set of rivalrous brothers we have met (after Cain and Abel & Isaac and Ishmael)
Did Esau despise his birthright because he expected to get by on his hunting prowess and his physical strength?i Did he imagine that being Isaac's favorite would always get him through?
Or was he just young and impulsive? Not appreciating his heritage and his privilege perhaps?
Interesting this is the third set of rivalrous brothers we have met (after Cain and Abel & Isaac and Ishmael)
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The big dumb physical guy vs. the smaller sly one. There's a trope if there ever was one. Ditto the sibling rivalry. The difference here being this was probably one of the stories that started the tropes (along with Cain & Abel).
I am thinking more along these lines. "Despising" here could mean he's taking it for granted and not really appreciating what he has rather than rejecting it.
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My children fought a lot when they were young. It shifted in the teenage years and they are good friends as adults.
The fighting when they were little was hard to take sometimes. Everyone reassured me it was quite normal. If I had read these stories in Genesis it might have been helpful.
The fighting when they were little was hard to take sometimes. Everyone reassured me it was quite normal. If I had read these stories in Genesis it might have been helpful.
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The lentil stew is an interesting detail in the story. Was the family out of meat? Was it simply not the day for meat?
I can imagine Jacob preparing the stew as a way of saying, "Look, Bro. We can do just fine without the animals you slaughter."
His father would have appreciated a meat stew. But Jacob was more aligned with his mother. Perhaps she had a daintier appetite.
I can imagine Jacob preparing the stew as a way of saying, "Look, Bro. We can do just fine without the animals you slaughter."
His father would have appreciated a meat stew. But Jacob was more aligned with his mother. Perhaps she had a daintier appetite.
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I believe lentil stew would be the basic meal. Meat would be a luxury
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This shows a nature of conflict that can happen between siblings ----greed --jealousy ---anger and resentment
Esau and Jacob's conflict started in the womb -----this shows what started in the unsee manifested itself outward to the seen --Which God decided to let play out ---in their free will of choices ----
what is in the heart is deceit and wickedness --says Jeremiah 17:9
Watch over your heart with all diligence,
For from it flow the springs of life.
So both brothers are shaped in iniquity -----as we all are ------
Esau was a hunter but was very foolish in his decision making -----seems maybe all he wanted was to hunt game --be in the field and didn't want any big responsibilities to deal with -----so he decided to take on what was offered to him by his brother to give up his birthright and feed his stomach ----which later allows resentment and rage to creep in ------
Bad choices bring bad consequences ------
Jacob showed his devious self nature by his trading off of soup for the birthright -----he seemed content to be at home which indicates a more settled character -----maybe had more time to think up tricks to benefit himself over his brother ----none the less he is God's chosen one to be in His future Plan
Both brothers make very bad choices which cost them both down the road -------
God tells Rebekah that the older will serve the younger -----and that they will be separated
Which Shows God's Sovereign choice of all the people which He made before the Foundation of this world was formed who would be included in His future plan to bring His Son into this world to save the lost ---
Does God condone Jacob's deceit ----no ----Jacob brings hardship upon himself because of his devious plots and plans ---Jacob needs some straightening up in his character and God sees to that ----
This shows a nature of conflict that can happen between siblings ----greed --jealousy ---anger and resentment
Esau and Jacob's conflict started in the womb -----this shows what started in the unsee manifested itself outward to the seen --Which God decided to let play out ---in their free will of choices ----
what is in the heart is deceit and wickedness --says Jeremiah 17:9
Proverbs 4:23 AMP B
23Watch over your heart with all diligence,
For from it flow the springs of life.
So both brothers are shaped in iniquity -----as we all are ------
Esau was a hunter but was very foolish in his decision making -----seems maybe all he wanted was to hunt game --be in the field and didn't want any big responsibilities to deal with -----so he decided to take on what was offered to him by his brother to give up his birthright and feed his stomach ----which later allows resentment and rage to creep in ------
Bad choices bring bad consequences ------
Jacob showed his devious self nature by his trading off of soup for the birthright -----he seemed content to be at home which indicates a more settled character -----maybe had more time to think up tricks to benefit himself over his brother ----none the less he is God's chosen one to be in His future Plan
Both brothers make very bad choices which cost them both down the road -------
God tells Rebekah that the older will serve the younger -----and that they will be separated
Which Shows God's Sovereign choice of all the people which He made before the Foundation of this world was formed who would be included in His future plan to bring His Son into this world to save the lost ---
Does God condone Jacob's deceit ----no ----Jacob brings hardship upon himself because of his devious plots and plans ---Jacob needs some straightening up in his character and God sees to that ----
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Neither character is appealing. Esau seems dumb and greedy. Jacob seems lazy and sneaky. As with Cain and Abel, I find it hard to determine what message/lesson is intended by the story. If Esau's such a great hunter, he presumably loves eating meat, so why would a dish of lentils cause him to give up his birthright?
Also, what means it that Jacob grabs Esau's heel on their way out of the birth canal? Again, more myth reminders, e.g. Achilles heel.
Also, what means it that Jacob grabs Esau's heel on their way out of the birth canal? Again, more myth reminders, e.g. Achilles heel.
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Agreeing with @BetteTheRed that neither Esau or Jacob is terribly appealing.
Are we meant to understand that God calls and uses imperfect human beings for God's purposes?
Are we meant to understand that God calls and uses imperfect human beings for God's purposes?
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And maybe that except on the altar, Godde has no preference for or against meat eaters or vegetarians?
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Well, if not for imperfect human beings, God wouldn't have much to work with.
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Good morning. Here is Genesis 26
Snoopy's Snappy Review: Is there an echo in here?
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Isaac's story has many echoes of the story of Abraham.
Once again, God makes the promise of land and descendants as numerous as the stars. There is another conflict with Abimelech which results in a treaty. And the wife/ sister narrative is repeated.
But the family saga continues. Esau, (the red and hairy son who traded away his birthright) marries Judith and Basemath. These are two Hittite women which causes Isaac and Rebekah great anxiety.
This must be part of Abraham's legacy. Remember when he sent his chief servant to his homeland to find a wife for Isaac? He very much wanted her to be from his own clan.
Snoopy's Snappy Review: Is there an echo in here?
Bible Gateway passage: Genesis 26 - New English Translation
Isaac and Abimelech - There was a famine in the land, subsequent to the earlier famine that occurred in the days of Abraham. Isaac went to Abimelech king of the Philistines at Gerar. The LORD appeared to Isaac and said, “Do not go down to Egypt; settle down in the land that I will point out to...
Isaac's story has many echoes of the story of Abraham.
Once again, God makes the promise of land and descendants as numerous as the stars. There is another conflict with Abimelech which results in a treaty. And the wife/ sister narrative is repeated.
But the family saga continues. Esau, (the red and hairy son who traded away his birthright) marries Judith and Basemath. These are two Hittite women which causes Isaac and Rebekah great anxiety.
This must be part of Abraham's legacy. Remember when he sent his chief servant to his homeland to find a wife for Isaac? He very much wanted her to be from his own clan.
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This is starting to read like a multigenerational novel of the present day, LoL I am not terribly familiar with Genesis but I know the story continues through Jacob and his lineage.
There is more family conflict and manipulation coming up in the next chapters of the book. Stay tuned.
There is more family conflict and manipulation coming up in the next chapters of the book. Stay tuned.
It's interesting that when God makes a covenant with Abraham and his descendents, that the promises have to do with long life, great wealth and posterity....there is no mention of an afterlife or the promise of being with God forever in heaven if they are obedient.
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The blessing of descendants is really emphasized. My parents were still alive when my granddaughter was born. They were so delighted to see that baby!!! I just can't tell you how important it was for all of us.
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This is interesting ----Isaac digs 3 wells 2 of which are contested by the locals as the wells belong to them ----
Isaac names the 2 wells that the locals gave him grief over -----
9 Isaac’s servants dug in the valley and discovered a well of fresh water there. 20 But the herders of Gerar quarreled with those of Isaac and said, “The water is ours!” So he named the well Esek,[c] because they disputed with him.
21 Then they dug another well, but they quarreled over that one also; so he named it Sitnah.[d]
22 He moved on from there and dug another well, and no one quarreled over it. He named it Rehoboth,[e] saying, “Now the Lord has given us room and we will flourish in the land.”
This name Esek ----means
Sitnah means -----
Strong's Concordance
Sitnah: "hostility,"
Both wells named well in my view
The 3rd well bring no conflict ----and Isaac Gives God the Glory for the 3rd well -----
Isaac names the 2 wells that the locals gave him grief over -----
9 Isaac’s servants dug in the valley and discovered a well of fresh water there. 20 But the herders of Gerar quarreled with those of Isaac and said, “The water is ours!” So he named the well Esek,[c] because they disputed with him.
21 Then they dug another well, but they quarreled over that one also; so he named it Sitnah.[d]
22 He moved on from there and dug another well, and no one quarreled over it. He named it Rehoboth,[e] saying, “Now the Lord has given us room and we will flourish in the land.”
This name Esek ----means
Esek, strife, contention: עֵשֶׂק, ʿēśeq (H6230)
Sitnah means -----
Strong's Concordance
Sitnah: "hostility,"
Both wells named well in my view
The 3rd well bring no conflict ----and Isaac Gives God the Glory for the 3rd well -----