What Legacy Does Trump Leave?

[Luce NDs]

Wow, what woke hatred! What Northwind doesn't get is that the beneficiaries of Trump's quiet acts of great compassion weren't particularly admirers of Trump, whom they didn't know, until they experienced his great kindness, and then they broke their silence to celebrate his generosity.

If the virtue-all hate could just see itself ... as the old sage declared walk softly (leightly) just observe .. and yet consider all that the very emotional cannot see ... Ci' ides a disorder!

It is a benefit to understand Entropy Theory ... it is on the matter of dark energy! These may block the vision of those that follow certain guides in the divine ... and thus get bifurcated ... Y? The stuff of the great beyond ... it's out there ... twinned into 2 num bells ... dazed by mortal willy's ... feathery critters?

Flight or swim ... the demise of the Great Auk! It was stayed on the surface ... superficial myth????

Thus it gets deeper ... well ladies???? Entropy Theory is quite indeterminate given the nature of what g' oust on in reality! Vast fixes ... oui that's messy ...

Where do OUI go with that ... sou etti ... that's a bad gale in Cape Breton --- Gale Storm! Then Trumped Up Dani's ... Mores ta waste?

The ground of being shrinks ... thus we need shrinks for swelled headm'n ... God delusions of God heads ... on what vector?
Schizoid forms of Dungeons & dragons ... something follows nothing appearing as a pop-up ... poppies, analgesics, num*bi*ness? One may see stars that aren't there ... that'c elibrite rather that cellibate ... the Rae Bate ... what comes back ... meta 4's ... with numerous corners!

 

[Delightful Life]

"The context is his history and his life" Ana Naverro

This is the bottom line. You can take words like bloodbath etc and say it has context.

It damn well does have context. We've seen him for the better part of 50 years and know his "character"

I looked this up

His bloodbath comment was aboot the automotive industry?

Yes, context is important

It is amazing how selective editing by media can make ordinary things sound horrific

As you were, citizens

CUDDLES!

 

[Delightful Life]

Of course for those who Trump appeals to, Justice doesn't matter and a large majority think it's okay to break laws in order to change

There is far too much of that going on imho in the USA

USA still works

It is fubared by the Confederate wing of the GOP and the woke level 9, where all laws are part of Systemic Racism and need to be Dismantled...and EVERYONE is transphobic, ageist, homophobic, sexist, etc etc etc (thus my riff on no one is without sin in that movement, everyone is to be watched and if needed be Dismantled)

So between the Confederates and the grass roots woke level 9 movement...

Interesting times :3

 

[Northwind]

His bloodbath comment was aboot the automotive industry?

That's what they say. I don't believe it. He's good at talking in "code". His followers are good at hearing "invitations".

 

[Delightful Life]

That's what they say. I don't believe it. He's good at talking in "code". His followers are good at hearing "invitations".

No that is what I heard

You don't have telepathy

This is what he said

"
“China now is building a couple of massive plants where they're going to build the cars in Mexico and think, they think, that they're going to sell those cars into the United States with no tax at the border.

Let me tell you something, to China, if you're listening, President Xi — and you and I are friends, but he understands the way I deal — those big, monster car-manufacturing plants that you're building in Mexico right now, and you think you're going to get that, you're going to not hire Americans, and you're going to sell the cars to us?

No, we're going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you're not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected. Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that's going to be the least of it, it's going to be a bloodbath for the country, that'll be the least of it. But they're not going to sell those cars, they're building massive factories.”

You are welcome for the transcription :3

Be aware of your Confirmation Bias, your need to see Trump in a certain way changing how you see the world

You can still think he is an sob and be truthful at the same time :3

 

[Delightful Life]

Also be aware of media intentionally misreading his speech (look at all the outlets thar should know better...)

Including Biden administration ("political violence")

Promoting what did not occur

 

[Mrs.Anteater]

I looked this up

His bloodbath comment was aboot the automotive industry?

Yes, context is important

It is amazing how selective editing by media can make ordinary things sound horrific

As you were, citizens

CUDDLES!

What about this:
“If this election isn’t won, I’m not sure that you’ll ever have another election in this country.”
And explain the logic of this:

“Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole – that’s gonna be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That’ll be the least of it.”
So he is threatening the Chinese auto industry if he gets elected with tarifs. So, if he doesn’t get elected, nothing happens/ changes so why would there be a”bloodbath”?
He repeated his promise to free people charged with crimes related to the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, whom he calls “hostages,” on Day 1 in office. That supports his threat “ that there will never be elections again- using those violent groups for civil uprising or just to terrorize the country.

 

[Luce NDs]

What about this:
“If this election isn’t won, I’m not sure that you’ll ever have another election in this country.”
And explain the logic of this:

“Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole – that’s gonna be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That’ll be the least of it.”
So he is threatening the Chinese auto industry if he gets elected with tarifs. So, if he doesn’t get elected, nothing happens/ changes so why would there be a”bloodbath”?
He repeated his promise to free people charged with crimes related to the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, whom he calls “hostages,” on Day 1 in office. That supports his threat “ that there will never be elections again- using those violent groups for civil uprising or just to terrorize the country.

There is nothing like absolute freedom to do anything ... as your will leads without a balancing intellect!

Evil is among us for those that cannot balance strange and unseen things ... like sol ... and emotions erupting ... should one have a pas Zion for the soul as well as the heartland? Thus we depart ... and wonde rabout stuff that's difficult ... firm ... PRO firm ish instead of CON firmish? Cautious of the rabouts they are a wonder and beyond mortal stuff ... immortal fuzz?

 

[Northwind]

You don't have telepathy

Telepathy? No, history. Remember January 6? The real time threats and danger to his opponents or DA's, etc. He has a history. He uses words that his followers hear and respond.

Be aware of your Confirmation Bias, your need to see Trump in a certain way changing how you see the world

50 years of public life shows his character.

You can still think he is an sob and be truthful at the same time :3

Truthful is not a characteristic many would not attribute to the man.

"Justifying" his behaviour doesn't help. He needs to be held accountable just like any human being. His dangerous rhetoric and words need to be called out.

I heard someone speak of the "Biden test" yesterday. Would it be acceptable if Biden said it? I would add, would it be acceptable if a woman or person of colour or LGBTQ+ person said it?

Think about it.

 

[Northwind]

What about this:
“If this election isn’t won, I’m not sure that you’ll ever have another election in this country.”
And explain the logic of this:

“Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole – that’s gonna be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That’ll be the least of it.”
So he is threatening the Chinese auto industry if he gets elected with tarifs. So, if he doesn’t get elected, nothing happens/ changes so why would there be a”bloodbath”?
He repeated his promise to free people charged with crimes related to the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, whom he calls “hostages,” on Day 1 in office. That supports his threat “ that there will never be elections again- using those violent groups for civil uprising or just to terrorize the country.

Exactly. This bears repeating.

 

[Waterfall]

No that is what I heard

You don't have telepathy

This is what he said

"
“China now is building a couple of massive plants where they're going to build the cars in Mexico and think, they think, that they're going to sell those cars into the United States with no tax at the border.

Let me tell you something, to China, if you're listening, President Xi — and you and I are friends, but he understands the way I deal — those big, monster car-manufacturing plants that you're building in Mexico right now, and you think you're going to get that, you're going to not hire Americans, and you're going to sell the cars to us?

No, we're going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you're not going to be able to sell those cars if I get elected. Now, if I don't get elected, it's going to be a bloodbath for the whole — that's going to be the least of it, it's going to be a bloodbath for the country, that'll be the least of it. But they're not going to sell those cars, they're building massive factories.”

You are welcome for the transcription :3

Be aware of your Confirmation Bias, your need to see Trump in a certain way changing how you see the world

You can still think he is an sob and be truthful at the same time :3

I heard the whole thing long before you posted this. I would not have taken it the way republicans explained it, after the fact, at all.
If it's the truth, so be it, then it's a threat to China and Mexico and the word is totally inappropriate for international or national dialogue from a possible future president.

 

[Waterfall]

What about this:
“If this election isn’t won, I’m not sure that you’ll ever have another election in this country.”
And explain the logic of this:

“Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole – that’s gonna be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That’ll be the least of it.”
So he is threatening the Chinese auto industry if he gets elected with tarifs. So, if he doesn’t get elected, nothing happens/ changes so why would there be a”bloodbath”?
He repeated his promise to free people charged with crimes related to the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, whom he calls “hostages,” on Day 1 in office. That supports his threat “ that there will never be elections again- using those violent groups for civil uprising or just to terrorize the country.

Absolutely agree!

 

[Northwind]

From USA today:
"Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will "protect your job." But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.

At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by the USA TODAY NETWORK, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs, coast to coast. Real estate brokers who sold his properties. And, ironically, several law firms that once represented him in these suits and others."

 

[Delightful Life]

What about this:
“If this election isn’t won, I’m not sure that you’ll ever have another election in this country.”
And explain the logic of this:

“Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath for the whole – that’s gonna be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country. That’ll be the least of it.”
So he is threatening the Chinese auto industry if he gets elected with tarifs. So, if he doesn’t get elected, nothing happens/ changes so why would there be a”bloodbath”?
He repeated his promise to free people charged with crimes related to the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, whom he calls “hostages,” on Day 1 in office. That supports his threat “ that there will never be elections again- using those violent groups for civil uprising or just to terrorize the country.

Irrelevant as I was writing specifically engaging on the Bloodbath comment

I do not have telepathy and I am not engaging in Whataboutism to relate every bad thing and Trump's lack of a moral centre etc to bolster my ideas aboot him

As you were, citizens

ps. to give you another read of your quoting " If this election isn’t won, I’m not sure that you’ll ever have another election in this country..." I have heard from non GOP and non Conservatives of a coup in USA and fear of non elections that has nothing to do with GOP or Trump.

The thing is with Trump, remember, he LIES constantly and is a master at manipulating...he is like a constant mad lib...also look up A B testing...O think he does that a lot :3

pps. Just riffing on other possibilities here. Bloodbath for country = how much does USA rely on auto industry? Have you heard how some of the major car manufacturers are apparently pulling oot of electric cars? So Trump = pro cars? We have seen the effects of going less cars is having? Potentially murdering whole herds of cows. Mass farmer protests. France in flames. And so on. Are those Bloodbaths of a sort?

Again, I don't know. I don't have telepathy. I have suspicions

 

[Luce NDs]

Cheating, lying and disposal of lesser folk is very popular in conflict theory ... explaining items that are beyond our comprehension!

 

[Delightful Life]

Telepathy? No, history. Remember January 6? The real time threats and danger to his opponents or DA's, etc. He has a history. He uses words that his followers hear and respond.

Well that really is you organizing facts of the world into a way to support your fear or concern over Bloodbath comment?

50 years of public life shows his character.

Which is immaterial to the Bloodbath comment.

Not everything is a conspiracy. Not everything is a dogwhistle or a special code, though we are good at seeing that (paredolia etc).

Truthful is not a characteristic many would not attribute to the man.

"Justifying" his behaviour doesn't help. He needs to be held accountable just like any human being. His dangerous rhetoric and words need to be called out.

I heard someone speak of the "Biden test" yesterday. Would it be acceptable if Biden said it? I would add, would it be acceptable if a woman or person of colour or LGBTQ+ person said it?

Think about it.

Again, his comment on bloodbath has nothing to do with justifying his behaviour. And him not being truthful has nothing to do with my reading of the bloodbath comment...that is a fallacy of poisoning the well. A cigarette smoker can still advocate against smoking.

I heard the whole thing long before you posted this. I would not have taken it the way republicans explained it, after the fact, at all.
If it's the truth, so be it, then it's a threat to China and Mexico and the word is totally inappropriate for international or national dialogue from a possible future president.

Wether you find it inappropriate or not is immaterial to what he actually said and didn't say.

I don't know how "Republicans" explained it myself as I don't follow the news and also haven't heard from all Republicans ot even most people :3

From USA today:
"Donald Trump often portrays himself as a savior of the working class who will "protect your job." But a USA TODAY NETWORK analysis found he has been involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits over the past three decades — and a large number of those involve ordinary Americans, like the Friels, who say Trump or his companies have refused to pay them.

At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by the USA TODAY NETWORK, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs, coast to coast. Real estate brokers who sold his properties. And, ironically, several law firms that once represented him in these suits and others."

Definitely not a saviour. He lied to those people on Jan 6
People should just know that he lies all the time :3

And maybe I hope people can eventually exorcise him from their heads. He seems to still be living rent free there. But I guess with all the chaos going on around the world, complaining aboot this guy is a stable thing? lol I dunno

 

[Northwind]

Frankly, justifying or "contextualizing" his behaviour potentially gives him more power. He is woefully unsuited for the role of POTUS. I will not be shamed for my views.

Read about strongmen. Ruth Ben-Ghiat has an excellent book on the topic. You will see that the wannabe authoritarian fits many of the characteristics listed.

 

[Northwind]

Another thing. Pay attention to what trump is saying. He's telling you exactly what he wants to do. It's not good.

 

[Mrs.Anteater]

Another thing. Pay attention to what trump is saying. He's telling you exactly what he wants to do. It's not good.

Interestingly, Hitler did the same. Supposedly, it was all written in his book “Mein Kampf” which was written in 1924, well before he came to power. (I never read it.)

 

[Northwind]

Interestingly, Hitler did the same. Supposedly, it was all written in his book “Mein Kampf” which was written in 1924, well before he came to power. (I never read it.)

Have you read "Strongmen: From Mussolini to the Present" (or close) by Ruth Ben-Ghiat? She outlines the characteristics of strongmen starting with Mussolini. She speaks of Hitler and others through time, including current. She makes a good argument that trump belongs in that group.