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Waterfall said:
This is amazing considering what Australia has achieved without vaccines.....might be some learning in there for Canada, seeing as ours are being delayed.
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I realize that with our huge, porous land border to the South, we would be hard-pressed to closed things down as tightly as Australia and New Zealand, but surely we have could have done more than we did. Again, how much did economics trump (not intended as a pun) epidemiology in our handling of some matters?
 
I think we are very used to our California strawberries and lettuce, and given the grief I'm currently getting over massively increased grocery prices, if you'd also seriously limited selection (it's actually a bit screwed up already, if you watch carefully), there'd be riots.
 
And I would hope that these farm workers are vaccinated in the first groups


of course, that Depends on us actually getting vaccines
 
Given the great honesty of the manufacturers of Covid vaccine ... what appears to be the enigma about the supply from those that claim to be first in supplying the best opinion ... that could be purely emotional as an opinion ... given what we know!

What we know appears to be in question ...
 
Mendalla said:
I realize that with our huge, porous land border to the South, we would be hard-pressed to closed things down as tightly as Australia and New Zealand, but surely we have could have done more than we did. Again, how much did economics trump (not intended as a pun) epidemiology in our handling of some matters?
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Economically, Australia's strategy has been if you concentrate on locking down on the virus -the sooner you can address the economic issues. It seems to be working, economically we're doing comparatively well.
 
@PilgrimsProgress -- I'm curious about air circulation. Do most of your buildings have windows that open? What are your office towers like? How about large apartment towers.

I do feel that part of the problem in our locations for offices and housing is around air exchange.
 
Pinga said:
I'm curious about air circulation. Do most of your buildings have windows that open? What are your office towers like? How about large apartment towers.
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Many of our office towers and hotels have windows that don't open. This is now being addressed with the knowledge of covid and aerosol infection. The corridors are a particular problem - as often air conditioning is sub-standard in corridors.

But, our climate is favourable - to take lunch-hour walks outside and in the park in all seasons. Also, working from home when possible was advised and many complied.
At present the federal government is working on expanding a purpose built quarantine site just out of Darwin. It ticks all the boxes - it's a bus ride from a large airport, yet it's isolated and there's plenty of fresh air.....
 
PilgrimsProgress said:
Many of our office towers and hotels have windows that don't open. This is now being addressed with the knowledge of covid and aerosol infection. The corridors are a particular problem - as often air conditioning is sub-standard in corridors.
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Interestingly enough, you don't mention apartment towers. Is such housing popular in Oz, or is less dense housing the norm?
 
BetteTheRed said:
Interestingly enough, you don't mention apartment towers. Is such housing popular in Oz, or is less dense housing the norm?
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Yes, apartment towers are now a feature of our largest cities - as land values are high. Yet, once again, our climate is suitable to go outdoors year round.

I remember being amazed in Toronto city area how there seemed to be city underground, as well as on the surface - but I guess it would be needed in your Winters?
 
PilgrimsProgress said:
Yes, apartment towers are now a feature of our largest cities - as land values are high. Yet, once again, our climate is suitable to go outdoors year round.

I remember being amazed in Toronto city area how there seemed to be city underground, as well as on the surface - but I guess it would be needed in your Winters?
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It makes it much easier to get around in the winter. My ex-brother-in-law and his partner live in a downtown condo (with a beautiful cottage a couple of hours away). In the winter, she can work to her job in a bank without going aboveground, and she can get a lot of her shopping done down there as well. I don't know about G., but he also works downtown area, I think, so maybe the same.

Toronto winters are the worst I remember. Up here, an hour north, it generally gets fairly cold and stays that way, although it's been a little less so in recent years. In Toronto, they get a little bit of snow, but it's very quickly churned into slush, and so one's feet are always wet. And because Lake Ontario doesn't usually freeze over, there's a constant damp cold wind wooshing around the wyrd wind tunnels created by too many highrises, particularly those with wyrd shapes.
 
I always liked the PATH in the underground tunnels and shopping. I usually got lost figuring out what road I was at, but it was great to walk under ground from union station almost to the Eaton center on a rainy day. Hubby used to drive to underground parking and never needed boots. He kept them in the car for the drive but all the shopping and restaurants could be accessed from below. Mostly
 
Lastpointe said:
but it was great to walk under ground from union station almost to the Eaton center on a rainy day.
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Brrr. The slush was the worst. I lived in Parkdale and had to wait for the Queen car at University. Wind whipping up from the lake, wet frozen feet, slush everywhere, the first streetcar that looks like you will fit on is short-turning. Coldest winters I ever spent.
 
PilgrimsProgress said:
Yes, apartment towers are now a feature of our largest cities - as land values are high. Yet, once again, our climate is suitable to go outdoors year round.

I remember being amazed in Toronto city area how there seemed to be city underground, as well as on the surface - but I guess it would be needed in your Winters?
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Calgary has a pretty good +15 system downtown. The university has a mix of those and underground tunnels.
 
Yes - that underground PATH in Toronto is quite amazingly complex. I used to get a bit lost in it too, venturing northward from Union Station. But I"m hearing that since COVID, with the office towers & Eaton Centre mainly/completely empty now - the impact on the businesses along the PATH has been devastating. I think a few of the big hospitals on University Ave & elsewhere have tunnels between buildings also. We had a grungy one at one my hospitals - always weeping a bit of water, smelling a bit, seeming a bit spooky ... we always hurried through it!
 
Several hospitals are connected. Because they share testing. We used to walk underground from sick kids to TGH for my son to get bone scans. It was a very sketchy tunnel with odd little doors
 
I used to know a lot of those paths between the hospitals. I was secretary to the "Hospital-University Research Co-ordinating Committee" (I worked for the Associate Dean, Research, Faculty of Medicine), and sometimes agendas, etc., had to be hand-delivered (long before e-mail). That was often my job, so I'd trot around downtown Toronto, scooting between buildings underground if the weather was nasty or it was somehow easier/quicker.
 
Lastpointe said:
Several hospitals are connected. Because they share testing. We used to walk underground from sick kids to TGH for my son to get bone scans. It was a very sketchy tunnel with odd little doors
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Knowing subway environments, I am suspecting those tunnels get frequently used to relief oneself. In Berlin they are pretty disgusting.
 
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