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Mrs.Anteater said:
Kudos, @PilgrimsProgress , for taking Ritas hostility with grace.
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Rita is not being hostile ... she is just prone to pointing out more than one interpretation of events leading up to the present predicament. Trusting the powers that should not be ... that did what they did to indigenous peoples ... to not do it globally to all of humanity now ... now that they have the technology ... first they came for the socialists?
 
Thanks. Interesting. My daughter works in forestry and they do quite a lot of controlled burns. To remove unwanted plants primarily. And they talk about this a lot in forest maintenance
 
Northwind said:
And yet you seem to feel the need to dictate to others or determine what they should do.
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Perhaps you might stop demanding that I tell you what we should do.
Northwind said:
I'd also like you to answer the question I asked upthread. What is a "critical" pre-existing condition?
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It seems being in a LTC home is the most significant ...

Significant enough to report on and then silently censor even themselves when people take note ...
 
Ritafee said:
Perhaps you might stop demanding that I tell you what we should do.
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No one is demanding anything of you. You have though been asked what you think is a good solution since you clearly have opinions. I guess you're better at bitching and complaining than you are at possibly offering something constructive
 
Northwind said:
No one is demanding anything of you. You have though been asked what you think is a good solution since you clearly have opinions. I guess you're better at bitching and complaining than you are at possibly offering something constructive
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I am not bitching and complaining ... I am giving evidence that the measures being enforced have no basis in science and are not a rational response. If you are adverse to looking at the truth of the situation from both sides ... continue to ignore it. The truth does not change according to your bias or my own. It is what it is.
 
BetteTheRed said:
I'm not sure what that's a response to. All I know is that if you have a planet with 7.8 billion people, if you don't congregate them in large cities with dense housing, you're either living in totally inhospitable environments, or you've got no leftover land for agriculture, so everyone starves.
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In Texas' second-largest city, the San Antonio Food Bank distributes eight semi-trucks full of food every day, but still was forced to resort to rationing due to soaring need.

"Covid-19" has taken so much, people's jobs, their loved ones, and now we're just trying to stop it from taking Thanksgiving," San Antonio Food Bank CEO Eric Cooper told CNBC. "Pre-pandemic we were feeding around 60,000 people a week, and now we're seeing around 120,000... and most of those are new to the food bank. They've never had to ask for help before."


www.commondreams.org

'Hunger Like They've Never Seen It Before': US Food Banks Struggle as 1 in 6 Families With Children Don't Have Enough to Eat | Common Dreams

"We're now seeing families who had an emergency fund but it's gone and they're at the end of their rope," said one Texas food bank director.
www.commondreams.org www.commondreams.org
 
Rita you're against the vaccine and you don't agree with masks and I'm not sure if you even agree with social distancing.....so telling people to grow food is not going to stop the virus and doing nothing to address that will only prolong the increased need for food....so how would you suggest Covid 19 be stopped?
 
Our social structures have replaced quality agricultural land with concrete. Family farms have been displaced by corporate agri-business. Our cars and factories have infected our air and our water. They are sick to the point of death.

We are at this time not able to grow and share food. Perhaps the ideas of a natural social economy can take root in our personal and collective imagination? This opening to a new relationship with the natural order and healing of our wounded human being. Either that or side with corporate giants now ruling the planet and its peoples.

We are in the valley of decision. On one side stands life. On the other side stands death. Why would anyone choose the way of death?
 
GeoFee said:
Our social structures have replaced quality agricultural land with concrete. Family farms have been displaced by corporate agri-business. Our cars and factories have infected our air and our water. They are sick to the point of death.

We are at this time not able to grow and share food. Perhaps the ideas of a natural social economy can take root in our personal and collective imagination? This opening to a new relationship with the natural order and healing of our wounded human being. Either that or side with corporate giants now ruling the planet and its peoples.

We are in the valley of decision. On one side stands life. On the other side stands death. Why would anyone choose the way of death?
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Sounds like a social psyche ... that wouldn't go over well with the individuals that cannot stand collective socialism if you gather that much from them!
 
This week I recorded a message, in the context of some singing and such, focused on the precepts of Anabaptism as a way forward in hope. The Anabaptists lived simply, collectively, and in right relationship with the natural order. Much as did indigenous peoples on all continents.

 
As an anarchist I am dedicated to freely chosen cooperation serving the whole. As an anarchist I resist conformity with the rule of law. Two of my key exemplars, Socrates and Jesus, refused conformity to the rule of law. Both were executed by the ruling powers.
 
Ritafee said:
In Texas' second-largest city, the San Antonio Food Bank distributes eight semi-trucks full of food every day, but still was forced to resort to rationing due to soaring need.

"Covid-19" has taken so much, people's jobs, their loved ones, and now we're just trying to stop it from taking Thanksgiving," San Antonio Food Bank CEO Eric Cooper told CNBC. "Pre-pandemic we were feeding around 60,000 people a week, and now we're seeing around 120,000... and most of those are new to the food bank. They've never had to ask for help before."
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Rita, I'm really trying, but it's hard to converse somehow, when you answer a question with an unrelated statement.

I said, "can't support 7.8 b people without large dense cities".

You said "bulls**t".

I responded with some facts about world population density, to which you headed down yet another rabbit hole, this one about food banks in Texas.


It's simple math, rita. You can't get 7.8 B people on the planet without cramming a large proportion of them into dense cities, which are natural vectors for disease.

If your answer is a somewhat Malthusian "well, then a bunch of people have to die so that we'll fit more loosely", then it's sorta ironic that you're a pacifist. If we're going to get the planet down to sustainable levels of population, I suspect some level of violence will ensue.

What would make the biggest difference in our population challenge would be to ensure equal rights for women and girls, including the right to be educated, and full and free access to safe birth control. A steadily decreasing population will, however, have all sorts of social and economic impacts. Free market capitalism cannot cope with a shrinking economy. Its very engine is expansion.
 
GeoFee said:
As an anarchist I am dedicated to freely chosen cooperation serving the whole. As an anarchist I resist conformity with the rule of law. Two of my key exemplars, Socrates and Jesus, refused conformity to the rule of law. Both were executed by the ruling powers.
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Didn't Jesus say give to Ceasar what is Ceasars? Doesn't that make him respectful of some laws?
 
Yes, followed by give to God what is God’s. Each much choose between the way of Caesar and the way of God. I stop at red lights, keep the speed limit, drive in the right lane and respect others driving on the road with me. All while living under the jurisdiction of the spirit. That said, I have on various occasions crossed legal boundaries and been arrested. When the spirit inspires my public witness the law becomes secondary. This fully aware of possible consequence.

Some quote Paul and insist that we must submit to the authority of law. I disagree. My model is given in the book of Acts. Some apostles are arrested and jailed. When released they are told not to repeat their public action. They respond by stating that they will be obedient to God alone.
 
The Scribes and Pharisees enforced diverse protocols to maintain purity. Jesus crossed their boundaries to share God’s care and concern for the poor, the broken and the oppressed. All considered unclean and despised by the governing power.

There is balance to be found in the logic of love God and love your neighbour. I am not afraid of the virus. It is but one manifestation of the multiple ways in which life may be taken from me. Even so, I follow proscribed protocols as the expression of love for my neighbour.
 
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