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"The overall effects of this epidemic have essentially been impossible for the average person to see without a microscope. Hospitals are not overflowing. Bodies are not piling up in the streets.

The dilemma of properly managed public health. If a potential pandemic is managed responsibly, then we're all, like, "what happened?"

I also think we might be in a middle lull, not the end of this, but we'll see. I work away, in my batman mask...
 
The dilemma of properly managed public health. If a potential pandemic is managed responsibly, then we're all, like, "what happened?"

I also think we might be in a middle lull, not the end of this, but we'll see. I work away, in my batman mask...


Public health and education ?????????????/

Are these really needed under the Peter Prin. where cuts and efficiency of the highest order are raised to unreasonable levels of CEO worship ...

Ask AJ Dunlap ... once known as the hatchetman of SUNBEAM and Scott Paper as "chainsaw" Dunlap ... as the term goes round ...

Some do say his Tory repeats ... some can't see it is a factor what-so-ever ... twas the loss of what ... how, when, where, why and hoo ... was sub dude! ... the man in the masque! Between it and the face of it ... intermedia ... may be a hangup for certain hedonistic powers --- Lord Acton!

The remnant demos laughs like de Vails eM doo!
 
Well, if you compare what is happening here to what happened in Italy and Spain, and what's going on south of the border, I've got to say that we appear, at least, to have the vestiges of a decent public health system.
 
Against all evidence and reason, governments were ‘advised’ that they should expect an influx of desperate ‘covid’ patients of all ages, and needed to retool their health care systems in preparation. Apart from removing the (apparently expendable) elderly from hospitals, (for their own protection of course), elective surgeries were cancelled and many hospitals became virtual ghost towns in anticipation of an influx that never came.

The combined effect of the incessant broadcasting of ‘covid terror’ into people’s homes and the furloughing of staff and cancelling of elective surgeries meant that many people with serious health issues were, like the residents of care homes, let to their own devices. And the result?
 
One type of fatality rate was substituted for another.
The wrong rate was then used to predict the likely death rate.
No-one picked up the error?


First, there's the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR). This is the total number of people who are infected by a disease and the number of them who die. This figure includes those who have no symptoms at all, or only very mild symptoms - those who stayed at home, coughed a bit and watched Outbreak.

Then there's the Case Fatality Rate (CFR). This is the number of people suffering serious symptoms, who are probably ill enough to be in hospital. Clearly, people who are seriously ill - the "cases" - are going to have a higher mortality rate than those who are infected, many of whom don't have symptoms. Put simply - all cases are infections, but not all infections are cases.

Which means that the CFR will always be far higher than the IFR.
With influenza, the CFR is around ten times as high as the IFR.
Covid seems to have a similar proportion.


Now, clearly, you do not want to get these figures mixed up. By doing so you would either wildly overestimate, or wildly underestimate, the impact of Covid. But mix these figures up, they did.

The error started in America, but didn't end there.
In healthcare, the US is very much the dog that wags the tail.
The figures they come up with are used globally.


On February 28, 2020, an editorial was released by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Published in the New England Journal of Medicine, the editorial stated: "... the overall clinical consequences of Covid-19 may ultimately be more akin to those of a severe seasonal influenza."

They added that influenza has a CFR of approximately 0.1 percent. One person in a thousand who gets it badly, dies.

But that quoted CFR for influenza was ten times too low - they meant to say the IFR, the Infection Fatality Rate, for influenza was 0.1 percent. This was their fatal - quite literally - mistake.

So, they matched up the one percent CFR of Covid with the incorrect 0.1 percent CFR of flu. Suddenly, Covid was going to be ten times as deadly.

If influenza killed 50, Covid was going to kill 500. If influenza killed a million, Covid was going to get 10 million. No wonder Congress, then the world, panicked. Because they were told Covid was going to be ten times worse than influenza. They could see three million deaths in the US alone, and 70 million around the world.

By Malcolm Kendrick, doctor and author who works as a GP in the National Health Service in England. His blog can be read here and his book, 'Doctoring Data - How to Sort Out Medical Advice from Medical Nonsense,' is available here.
 
I'm just watching the BC briefing. The medical officer has put more restrictions on bars. Liquor can only be sold and bars must close at 11. There are guidelines for music volume as well. I'm sure that will annoy some. I'm glad the province is targeting the restrictions rather than put restrictions on everyone. Most people seem to be doing well. It seems the bar scene is the source of many of our infections.
 
I'm just watching the BC briefing. The medical officer has put more restrictions on bars. Liquor can only be sold and bars must close at 11. There are guidelines for music volume as well. I'm sure that will annoy some. I'm glad the province is targeting the restrictions rather than put restrictions on everyone. Most people seem to be doing well. It seems the bar scene is the source of many of our infections.
How is the mask use there?

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I'm just watching the BC briefing. The medical officer has put more restrictions on bars. Liquor can only be sold and bars must close at 11. There are guidelines for music volume as well. I'm sure that will annoy some. I'm glad the province is targeting the restrictions rather than put restrictions on everyone. Most people seem to be doing well. It seems the bar scene is the source of many of our infections.
I was surprised nightclubs there were open. I've noticed on an app there seemed to be a lot of exposure headlines related to them. That was something here that weren't opened, unless I missed when they did.
I don't understand the curfew, 10 pm seems to have no extra risks than midnight IMO. And actually probably less compared to a dinner hour (masking may be easier to do).
 
I don't understand the curfew, 10 pm seems to have no extra risks than midnight IMO. And actually probably less compared to a dinner hour (masking may be easier to do).

I think most of the problems have been after 10 at night. There have been big parties in Vancouver and Kelowna. I suspect in other places too. Apparently restaurants have not been a source of infection. People are following the guidelines in restaurants. They aren't as easily managed after they've had some alcohol later in the evening. Nightclubs that aren't restaurants are closed now.
 
I think most of the problems have been after 10 at night. There have been big parties in Vancouver and Kelowna. I suspect in other places too. Apparently restaurants have not been a source of infection. People are following the guidelines in restaurants. They aren't as easily managed after they've had some alcohol later in the evening. Nightclubs that aren't restaurants are closed now.
I wish it were just easier to crack down on the aspects that actually create the higher risk - the numbers, but it's easier I guess to notice an issue with something being open when it shouldn't than it is to just notice numbers.
Unfortunate that it's hitting the last bit of patio days too. Nighttime outdoor patio gatherings are safer than many alternatives, and it's coming up to the end of the season for those, would have been nice if they could have just finished that off with the end of season rather than ending early.
 
*sigh* This was the hospital that was closed for a while due to an outbreak.
I understand wanting to have a party. Could it have not been outdoors? Maybe a little smaller too?
Hopefully no transmission, time will tell.
 
Unfortunate that it's hitting the last bit of patio days too. Nighttime outdoor patio gatherings are safer than many alternatives, and it's coming up to the end of the season for those, would have been nice if they could have just finished that off with the end of season rather than ending early.

People can still enjoy a meal and drinks on a patio until 10:00 pm. The issue is the partying.
 
I think most of the problems have been after 10 at night. There have been big parties in Vancouver and Kelowna. I suspect in other places too. Apparently restaurants have not been a source of infection. People are following the guidelines in restaurants. They aren't as easily managed after they've had some alcohol later in the evening. Nightclubs that aren't restaurants are closed now.
They've been cracking down on house parties - mostly young people. One guy in his 20's got fined for having 30 ppl in his apartment, got a sizeable fine (after being warned to break up the party, saying he would, and not following through when the police came back later to check; then he was fined). He went on the news to complain that the rules are stupid and it wasn't fair, and then had another party the next weekend or second weekend later!
 
Yeah, it's the nighttime aspect though. Doesn't need to be a party, just enjoying the end of the summer nights.

Unfortunately some yahoos are ruining for the rest. Several outbreaks have been linked back to bar scenes.
 
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