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Kimmio Laughterlove said:
It looks like community transmission in BC has slowly been creeping up again, but Vancouver Island has held at the same numbers for over a week. I think we had only a few new cases in months. In BC overall, several of the community transmissions were from a party in Kelowna, and a strip club in Vancouver. Not really a surprise. I’m kind of happy that a large swath of the sex industry might be forced to go extinct (speaking of systemic problems that affect women and racialized Canadians, particularly indigenous women, there’s one - the sex industry, misogyny baked in, is absolutely a systemic problem from the beginning of time). Also, casual hook-ups, tinder, clubbing/ parting and having one nighters, seeing multiple partners - not many doing that these days and not for awhile - which is probably something that needed to change. It’s another “habit” that society needs to rethink - is this necessary?That’s not a bad thing, imo. There are lots of people living without sex partners and they survive. If we can live without hugs, and hand holding, handshakes, arm on shoulder, etc. because it’s not distancing - that’s actually harder than living without sex because it’s lack of even the most basic human, non sexual, touch - humans generally need a bare minimum of some human touch sometimes but don’t need another person for sexual gratification. That’s, for the vast majority of people, more of a selfish desire than a need - at least depending on someone else to fulfill it is. My guess is it will lead to a culture change of people taking relationships more slowly, and thoughtfully. I think that’s good, healthy - not based on religious morality. It’s just mature and healthy, for individuals and families and society - it’s stronger bonding “glue” to hold it together. Maybe courtship will come back in fashion - but more a gender equal version. The romantic in me hopes so.
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That would be another research study- the influence of Covid on the rate of sexually transmitted diseases...
 
Isolationism reminds of of conditions that maybe we shouldn't have been in in the first place!

Masks on desert people???? Imagine diseases imbibed in the desert by soldiers of desert storms! Do the nomads know something we don't? No madness atoll ... just poly MS Understood ... multi Tudes ovid!
 
Realistically society will open. That will result in more infections. That will perhaps cause bars to shut down for a short period

but mainly we will learn to live with it
 
The demos will thus be thoroughly diminished by reality ... the whole point in leaving tyrannical authority standing alone on the savannah ... upright for an instant in the greater narrative!

Autonomous folk may deny powerfully and thus not see it ... raising the question are the autonomous separated or have they denied the alternate? The answer may be anonymous! Proof of what we don;t know ...
 
And Kimm that is something you have been advocating for a long time. Be careful. Watch susceptible people. And learn to live with it

our big news is we are hosting my sons “changed up “ wedding in a month at our farm. Less than 50 people, outside. Ontario has moved to 100 people outside but we don’t want that and don’t have room
lots of hand sanitizer, masks when required. Space. And a lovely (hopefully) August wedding. They had planned on a big bash of 140 people in a Toronto warehouse but that just doesn’t seem safe enough for anyone

fingers crossed for nice weather!
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
Different sub-topic... this is something that crossed my mind several times:

www.thestar.com

COVID-19 exposes the hypocrisy of face covering in Quebec

Despite face coverings being recommended by the Canadian government for health security reasons, the Quebec ban on religious face coverings is still being both upheld and applauded.
www.thestar.com www.thestar.com

Also, wondering if Saudi and Iranian women, for example, in the countries where they are required to wear a niquab, have lower rates of covid transmition.
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Muslim women long perceived as a security threat rolling their eyes on social media.
 
ChemGal said:
I could see in some populations it also going up sadly, as things are done a little less in the open, it can reduce other safety aspects.
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Open?... How many men ever cheated on their wives with prostitutes in the open? Some these days, but not too many, I’m guessing. Most husbands would be thrown out on their asses. How many men have cheated on their wives with prostitutes behind their backs? Lots I’m guessing. That’s practically why it exists. It’s one big reason, anyway. (Systemic misogyny goes so way back it’s subconscious - people need to see that. Even sex workers need to see that they are perpetuating misogyny. I don’t blame them for needing the money. Sex work will stop when predatory capitalism stops, and it will stop someday.)

During covid, it’s not safe for sex worker or John. Sex workers are at risk no matter whether it is open or not. Buying sex is an extra stupid idea during a pandemic. People seeing multiple partners are at risk too, even if they are open about their lifestyle, that doesn’t matter because the virus only needs to be breathed on someone less than 6 ft away, no matter what people are doing.
 
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Lastpointe said:
And Kimm that is something you have been advocating for a long time. Be careful. Watch susceptible people. And learn to live with it

our big news is we are hosting my sons “changed up “ wedding in a month at our farm. Less than 50 people, outside. Ontario has moved to 100 people outside but we don’t want that and don’t have room
lots of hand sanitizer, masks when required. Space. And a lovely (hopefully) August wedding. They had planned on a big bash of 140 people in a Toronto warehouse but that just doesn’t seem safe enough for anyone

fingers crossed for nice weather!
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I’m really against predatory capitalism. Sex work wouldn’t exist without it. It wouldn’t “need” to.
 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
Open?... How many men ever cheated on their wives with prostitutes in the open? Some these days, but not too many, I’m guessing. Most husbands would be thrown out on their asses. How many men have cheated on their wives with prostitutes behind their backs? Lots I’m guessing. That’s practically why it exists. It’s one big reason, anyway. (Systemic misogyny goes so way back it’s subconscious - people need to see that. Even sex workers need to see that they are perpetuating misogyny. I don’t blame them for needing the money. Sex work will stop when predatory capitalism stops, and it will stop someday.)

During covid, it’s not safe for sex worker or John. Sex workers are at risk no matter whether it is open or not. Buying sex is an extra stupid idea during a pandemic. People seeing multiple partners are at risk too, even if they are open about their lifestyle, that doesn’t matter because the virus only needs to be breathed on someone less than 6 ft away, no matter what people are doing.
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Depends on the situations we're referring too. Probably down in some areas, up in others.
 
ChemGal said:
Depends on the situations we're referring too. Probably down in some areas, up in others.
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Online sex work is up, I read last night. That’s less of a big deal. In terms of covid anyway. It’s safer in terms of physical health at least. If women didn’t need the money because we live in a predatory society that leaves them that avenue to make money on par with men (it’s a power play but women still lose in the big picture), and if we weren’t overall so programmed to think men are entitled to whatever/ whoever they want as long as they have enough money, and learn that through the social environment - that men’s desires are entitled to be fulfilled (that’s patriarchy and misogyny, and toxic masculinity - the whole ugly package) even at the detriment of family and community - then sex work wouldn’t exist.
 
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I don’t want to talk about any more related to sex work. I’ve said my piece. It’s not up for debate from me. It never was. I was only commenting. I won’t respond to further discussion about it. So don’t bother pressing me on it.

As for divorce rates, though. Yeah, a lot of couples are probably tired of being stuck at home with each other 24/7 without having any of their own time and interests. If they live in modest sized or small homes, then it would be harder. They’re fed up, tired of each other, the kids are running around getting restless. And they’re getting divorces. The whole things sucks for kids. They can’t see their friends, their parents are arguing and breaking up. I feel sorry for the kids. Covid is going to cause more long term problems that are even bigger than physical health risks. But, hopefully, the kids will learn from it and do better than we did as a society, if they’re not broken.
 
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Waterfall said:
If you really must fly, here's the risk you're taking this includes the flight numbers so far in July:
globalnews.ca

Passengers on 31 flights in Canada may have been exposed to COVID-19 in July - National | Globalnews.ca

Canadians who have recently traveled by plane domestically or internationally may want to check if they have been potentially exposed to the novel coronavirus.
globalnews.ca globalnews.ca
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I would think just going to the airport is a risk. My upstairs landlady/ sil is flying to Alberta. I am worried about it a little because we share the laundry, she has to pass through part of the suite to get to it, and she probably won’t self isolate. She’s a “free spirit” is the best way to put it. She’ll be gone for two weeks, and that’s an iffy amount of time between possible catching the virus and the virus incubating. She needs to go, it’s an important trip, but I really wish I lived alone in a place nobody else enters unless I want them to. I can’t afford it and when I do move, it’ll be back to Vancouver after covid is over. If it’s ever over. I won’t bother moving in this town again, though, because I don’t want to settle here and there aren’t many vacancies or any cheap rentals. Vancouver rent prices were down last month, probably because of covid. They are creeping up, with reopening.
 
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Waterfall said:
Here's a list of the countries that seem to be having a "second wave" of Coronavirus, some after being fairly successful with the first wave, such as Australia and Israel.....did they open too soon?.....are we?

www.telegraph.co.uk

What a resurgence of Covid-19 around the world tells us about the risk of a second wave

Many respiratory disease pandemics hit more than once – but it is not just a winter spike we need to worry about
www.telegraph.co.uk www.telegraph.co.uk
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Well, Israel is taking full advantage of a spying apparatus that was covert until now, there, according to a study I posted. Maybe it’s in some countries’ governments interests to have a reason to use these things.

I thought Australia was not doing well with it from the get-go.
 
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