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A bit technical in places but worth watching.

Covid is not like flu, inasmuch as health conditions that aggravate it are not so much lung conditions like COPD (although they do increase risk) but a bunch of things that lead to type 2 diabetes and obesity.

This vid discusses how bad high fructose corn syrup is. It’s twice as bad as sucrose (table sugar). Not only does fructose lead to diabetes and obesity, it reduces your body’s ability to metabolize vitamin D.

I didn’t realize how much worse fructose was.

Also, if your diabetic, keeping it under control halves the risk of complications with Covid.

 
Kimmio Laughterlove said:
I don’t want US tourists now. This town - potentially every town on the Island would be a disaster if American tourists brought covid up here. It’s a small city, downtown is small, and everybody frequents the same places. And locals have to serve them. Too risky. If they had not shut down the US ferries and cruise ships initially, we would’ve be slammed by covid.
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I feel much the same. I’m just scared of this virus. It’s way worse than flu. But it is mild for young people. So they have no fear of going out on protests (although many are wearing masks). But some of them may infect their older relatives.

There’s so much we don’t know.
 
I saw plenty of people who looked to be seniors joining the protest here. It was more of a peaceful demonstration with people at the podium, sharing their experiences of racism. It skewed under 50, but there were seniors there. I stayed on the sidelines with my mask on. I couldn’t have gotten further into the crowd if I’d even wanted to.

None of the seniors I know in RL here are scared, or have been...maybe only for a couple of weeks at first. They wouldn’t stay home entirely. They went more places than me. I don’t quite know why - they understood the risk and watched the daily briefings - but that’s been my experience. They didn’t visit in people’s homes or have friends over, but they did a lot of shopping. It’s because they don’t really consider themselves seniors, I think. Even though they technically are.

The Island has faired well. The risk has remained pretty low here throughout. It wouldn’t have stayed so safe if we had people coming from Washington State to the downtown inner harbour early on. Covid would’ve spread like crazy - just thinking of how little area there is, how many locals work in tourism, and go to restaurants and bars concentrated in the downtown area - almost everyone who visits here covers that area - and all the small shops and cafes and tour buses, and B&B’s, the museum, the IMAX, the little tour boats, etc. all within 6 or 8 blocks, really. If that San Francisco cruise ship had come up here, I think it could’ve been really dire. But so far it has not been. I’d like tourism to hold off awhile longer. Skip this summer. Pitch safer “tourist in your hometown” type activities locals can do to make up for some lost business. That’s what I hope happens.
 
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Kimmio Laughterlove said:
I saw plenty of people who looked to be seniors joining the protest here. It was more of a peaceful demonstration with people at the podium, sharing their experiences of racism. It skewed under 50, but there were seniors there. I stayed on the sidelines with my mask on. I couldn’t have gotten further into the crowd if I’d even wanted to. None of the seniors I know are scared, or have been...maybe only for a couple of weeks at first. They wouldn’t stay home entirely. They went more places than me. I don’t quite know why - they understood the risk and watched the daily briefings - but that’s been my experience. They didn’t visit in people’s homes or have friends over, but they did a lot of shopping.
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I didn’t start out scared. I’m not afraid of the flu. But it’s becoming clear that it’s different and it’s more like SARS-1 than flu.

I guess people just react differently. I’ve read so much about it, that may be the difference.

My daughter-in-law says she really has to keep track of her parents. They just don’t see it as dangerous.
 
EasternOrthodox said:
I didn’t start out scared. I’m not afraid of the flu. But it’s becoming clear that it’s different and it’s more like SARS-1 than flu.

I guess people just react differently. I’ve read so much about it, that may be the difference.

My daughter-in-law says she really has to keep track of her parents. They just don’t see it as dangerous.
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How dangerous depends on where you are, and how many can spread it. If no one around us has it, it can’t spread. We’ve faired well in this region. It would be showing up one way or another if we hadn’t been fairing well (lucky).
 
ChemGal said:
Not all, young adults have died and there is the association with MSI-C although it's not clear if it's the cause, it seems likely.
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Yes, according to what I’ve read, young people can get serious things like strokes. But it doesn’t seem very common. I don’t know what MSC-I is and searching for it returns the name of a company. ??
 
EasternOrthodox said:
Yes, according to what I’ve read, young people can get serious things like strokes. But it doesn’t seem very common. I don’t know what MSC-I is and searching for it returns the name of a company. ??
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Sorry, there was a typo. Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children MIS-C.

globalnews.ca

Alberta investigating 1st possible case of MIS-C, inflammatory condition that could be linked to COVID-19 | Globalnews.ca

Dr. Deena Hinshaw announced Wednesday that health officials are investigating whether a child in the province may have an inflammatory condition possibly linked to COVID-19.
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“In the past several weeks, cases of a new condition called multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children, or MIS-C, have been reported in a number of jurisdictions,” Alberta’s chief medical officer of health said at a news conference in Edmonton. “It is similar to an inflammatory disease known as Kawasaki disease and responds to treatments such as steroids.

Hinshaw said while health experts continue to learn about the syndrome that affects children, it seems to develop in some children who have a recent history of COVID-19. She said it appears to be similar to a medical condition known as Kawasaki disease “and responds to treatments such as steroids.”

“MIS-C involves inflammation of multiple organs, including the heart, kidneys, blood vessels and nervous system,” she said. “Fever is a key feature of this syndrome and other symptoms can include rash, vomiting, diarrhea and abdominal pain.
 
In Berlin Potsdam two administrative managers of a hospital are investigated for negligent homicide. They were in charge during the covid outbreak and 138 patients who were admitted for other reasons were infected with covid and 32% of them died. The “ covid crisis team” they initiated did not have anybody from infection control on it and neither did it have a person in charge.
 
ChemGal said:
Sorry, there was a typo. Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children MIS-C.

globalnews.ca

Alberta investigating 1st possible case of MIS-C, inflammatory condition that could be linked to COVID-19 | Globalnews.ca

Dr. Deena Hinshaw announced Wednesday that health officials are investigating whether a child in the province may have an inflammatory condition possibly linked to COVID-19.
globalnews.ca globalnews.ca
“In the past several weeks, cases of a new condition called multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children, or MIS-C, have been reported in a number of jurisdictions,” Alberta’s chief medical officer of health said at a news conference in Edmonton. “It is similar to an inflammatory disease known as Kawasaki disease and responds to treatments such as steroids.

Hinshaw said while health experts continue to learn about the syndrome that affects children, it seems to develop in some children who have a recent history of COVID-19. She said it appears to be similar to a medical condition known as Kawasaki disease “and responds to treatments such as steroids.”

“MIS-C involves inflammation of multiple organs, including the heart, kidneys, blood vessels and nervous system,” she said. “Fever is a key feature of this syndrome and other symptoms can include rash, vomiting, diarrhea and abdominal pain.
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Thanks for the tip. I email links to others if it’s new info. I hadn’t heard of this one.
 
The Scripps Research Institute in Florida is suggesting the virus has mutated (increased spikes on the virus) in some areas and could possibly mean that is the reason that some countries are experiencing more infection rates and deaths. For areas with lower infection rates it may not just be how soon countries respond but also which version of the virus they're dealing with.
These studies from Scripps are currently undergoing peer reviews.

www.scripps.edu

Mutated coronavirus shows significant boost in infectivity

www.scripps.edu
 
Problem with some viruses w.r.t. vaccines,

”But a shadow looms over the global race to develop a pandemic vaccine: a little-known phenomenon called antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE), also known as disease enhancement or immune enhancement.

It refers to a counter-intuitive and potentially dangerous situation: when the presence of antibodies, which are supposed to vanquish disease, worsens rather than quells an infection.

It is a rare but not idle concern. The pandemic virus belongs to the same family of coronaviruses that causes Sars (severe acute respiratory syndrome) and Mers (Middle East respiratory syndrome). The hunt for vaccines for these 21st-century diseases — Sars appeared in 2002, Mers in 2012 — has been stymied by evidence of ADE.

The long road to a Covid-19 vaccine | Free to read
 
Waterfall said:
The Scripps Research Institute in Florida is suggesting the virus has mutated (increased spikes on the virus) in some areas and could possibly mean that is the reason that some countries are experiencing more infection rates and deaths. For areas with lower infection rates it may not just be how soon countries respond but also which version of the virus they're dealing with.
These studies from Scripps are currently undergoing peer reviews.

www.scripps.edu

Mutated coronavirus shows significant boost in infectivity

www.scripps.edu
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This has been feared. Covid is a nasty beast.
 
EasternOrthodox said:
This has been feared. Covid is a nasty beast.
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Let us admit to the enigma (derived from a word of darkness) of how much we really don't know.

It appears we are the primary carrier of a viral trend about trying to wipe out the strange neighbour ... thus as a missal ... we are our own worst enemy! We just don't like much of ourselves ...

It really is seed for the pits ...
 
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