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@Kimmeo It‘s strange that kids don’t get it , or do they just have no symptoms? We won’t know till there’s an antibody test but it’s a great relief that children are spared.
It’s true. Consider, here, most seniors have also been spared. 35 active cases on the Island - most are elderly. 2 deaths of people 80-90. Think of how many seniors there are in this region. It’s odd, compared to the stats in other places, considering we are right on the Pacific Rim, and a hub for travel and goods from Asia.
 
If a universal flu vaccine were effective at stopping most forms of flu, then it’s not a bad thing.
IF IF IF ... very iffy ... stop saying that I am opposed to all vaccines.

I do not know enough about all vaccines to be able to qualify such an opposition.

What I have been all along in opposition to is what is now happening ...

That a majority are saying yes yes please 'tattoo' us for the 'common good' is terrifying.

TECHNOCRATIC OVERLORD ABSOLUTE CONTROL OVER EVERY LIVING SOUL - PLANNEDEMIC

UNIVERSAL MANDATORY VACCINATION & DIGITAL CERTIFICATION

Hey if that is what you all want ... good for you.

DO NOT TRY TO JUSTIFY BY EXTENSION OF THE POWERS THAT SHOULD NOT BE ...

Your own desire to inflict forcibly 'your consent' on to even one other that 'will not consent'.

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR ... from the tone of the feedback that I get for my posts ... I suspect that there are a number too many here already that are waiting for the 'legal means' to 'subject myself and any non consentual others' to their 'way of consent' - by whatever violence necessary.
 
With respect, I don't think that whilst we're living with the dreadful reality of this world-wide health crisis, this is not the time to discuss political or "pet" conspiracy theories....

So, until we have preferably a vaccine or more successful ways of mitigating the terrible loss of life resulting from this disease, I will be scrolling over -not reading - anything other than health news here.

I intend to use this period of self-isolation to educate myself more on medical issues.

With this in mind -@ChemGal and others in the medical field - I have read that in South Korea people who have been cured of this disease are now getting it again. Does immunity from previous exposure to an illness not always apply? Does immunity apply for varying amounts of time, depending on an illness?
One of the things I have seen suggested is it wasn't new infections, but rather the virus reactivating. Similar to someone who has the shingles after having the chicken pox at some point in their life, or cold sores.
I haven't heard of this for something like a respiratory virus before, which isn't to say that it doesn't happen.

For immunity in general, it does vary. For some vaccines more boosters are needed than for others. And it also varies from one individual to the next.

Right now there's just so much we don't know.
 
@Kimmeo It‘s strange that kids don’t get it , or do they just have no symptoms? We won’t know till there’s an antibody test but it’s a great relief that children are spared.
Kids do develop COVID-19, there's numerous reports of that. They have very low rates of becoming seriously sick with it.

In Alberta, the current count is 165 of those under 19 who have had it.
 
@Kimmeo It‘s strange that kids don’t get it , or do they just have no symptoms? We won’t know till there’s an antibody test but it’s a great relief that children are spared.
Two weeks ago I talked (from at least six feet away, probably 12) to a dad supervising his kids who were pushing a giant ball around in a school field (I was using the path through it and talked to him when I reached the edge where he was standing, where the street began. I was impressed by the giant ball taller than the kids. It looked like they were having a hoot). He said his middle kid who was not playing, had a moderate cold, but he wasn’t allowed to go to the clinic, nor was it recommended that kids be tested. I think kids are still getting it and some have typical mild colds. Their own immune systems seem to be able to handle it and let them recover. Parents don’t seem to be catching it terribly, in droves, from them, either.
 
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IF IF IF ... very iffy ... stop saying that I am opposed to all vaccines.

I do not know enough about all vaccines to be able to qualify such an opposition.

What I have been all along in opposition to is what is now happening ...

That a majority are saying yes yes please 'tattoo' us for the 'common good' is terrifying.

TECHNOCRATIC OVERLORD ABSOLUTE CONTROL OVER EVERY LIVING SOUL - PLANNEDEMIC

UNIVERSAL MANDATORY VACCINATION & DIGITAL CERTIFICATION

Hey if that is what you all want ... good for you.

DO NOT TRY TO JUSTIFY BY EXTENSION OF THE POWERS THAT SHOULD NOT BE ...

Your own desire to inflict forcibly 'your consent' on to even one other that 'will not consent'.

BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR ... from the tone of the feedback that I get for my posts ... I suspect that there are a number too many here already that are waiting for the 'legal means' to 'subject myself and any non consentual others' to their 'way of consent' - by whatever violence necessary.
Not digital certification. No. ...but because health records are computerized we already have that to a large degree. Yours included.
 
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I read too that people are getting the virus again. That is odd relative time what we know of disease and immunity. However sometimes a mild case of a disease doesn’t give immunity. Think of kids you know who get chicken pox twice

this is an odd situation and I am totally supportive of doing things to suppress the curve, even if it doesn’t actually affect how many get the virus but slows down the numbers

but I am also concerned with rules that don’t make sense and the politicians using this to grab power. We have seen it tried once with our very liberal PM. Let’s hope he learned his lesson. It we also know those in power want to keep it at all cost
 
I have a roommate. One of the issues that has come up before is she flushes things that shouldn’t be flushed,or flushes too much at once and has clogged the toilet.

Today, just a few minutes ago, the toilet water level would not go down. I only went pee. It looked clean but there are germs, I realize. So I got out the plunger and I felt a tiny drop of water splash me in the eye. I immediately stopped, washed my hands with soap and water, cupped my hands and rinsed my eyes. Then I got out my visine I remembered I had...not a proven intervention but I thought maybe if I doused my eyes with visine chemicals it would be stronger than plain water - and if then rinsed again, it would rinse any potential bugs out or kill them...it was just an immediate thought, on the fly. So I rinsed again. And I stood a bit further back as best I could and unclogged the toilet. Then washed my hands again. Thoughts? Advice?
 
It does seems somewhat Orwellian but these are not ordinary times.
COVID1984 - In the Records Department of the Ministry of Truth, the job is to rewrite historical documents so they match the constantly changing current party line. This involves revising newspaper articles and doctoring photographs - mostly to remove " unpersons ", people who have fallen afoul of the party.
I don't think that whilst we're living with the dreadful reality of this world-wide health crisis, this is not the time to discuss political or "pet" conspiracy theories....

So, until we have preferably a vaccine or more successful ways of mitigating the terrible loss of life resulting from this disease, I will be scrolling over -not reading - anything other than health news here.

I intend to use this period of self-isolation to educate myself more on medical issues.

With this in mind -@ChemGal and others in the medical field - I have read that in South Korea people who have been cured of this disease are now getting it again. Does immunity from previous exposure to an illness not always apply? Does immunity apply for varying amounts of time, depending on an illness?

I will leave you to Gossip (dish and tattle) between yourselves then.

I am not in reciprocity of the mass media or rumors that meet the required attention span of this thread.

Gossip has been researched in terms of its origins in evolutionary psychology, which has found gossip to be an important means for people to monitor cooperative reputations and so maintain widespread indirect reciprocity.

PS ... If I post in this thread again ... I do hereby give my consent to be 'officially banned' from doing so again ... given that I am not very inclined to self censoring ... forceful eviction may be called for to safeguard many of you from having to 'tolerate' anything that I myself might be inclined to post again that will again 'offend your collective sensibility'... again.
 
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Sorry to keep bringing up the Spanish Flu, but it was thought that the elderly had been exposed to another previous flu in 1889-90, (that the younger generation had not been exposed to), this helped with their immunity.....the Spanish flu virus predominately killed people in their twenties. Although if that were true, why did it also spare those under 14?
Today, is there something that the younger ones were exposed to that the elderly were not? I'm sure I don't know the answers, I can only hope that the scientific community can figure this out.
Here's a study on Age Specific Mortality Rates for the Spanish Flu, which I'm sure @ChemGal probably understands more than I do.

 
Any thoughts on what happened? I just read about visine OD. Though that is when ingested. Eyes can only hold so much then they spill out, plus I rinsed them again with water. I did both eyes so they matched. lol. What a goof I am. Now I am worried about that. So my anxiety is up...
But my whites are white. Lol.
 
I have a roommate. One of the issues that has come up before is she flushes things that shouldn’t be flushed,or flushes too much at once and has clogged the toilet.

Today, just a few minutes ago, the toilet water level would not go down. I only went pee. It looked clean but there are germs, I realize. So I got out the plunger and I felt a tiny drop of water splash me in the eye. I immediately stopped, washed my hands with soap and water, cupped my hands and rinsed my eyes. Then I got out my visine I remembered I had...not a proven intervention but I thought maybe if I doused my eyes with visine chemicals it would be stronger than plain water - and if then rinsed again, it would rinse any potential bugs out or kill them...it was just an immediate thought, on the fly. So I rinsed again. And I stood a bit further back as best I could and unclogged the toilet. Then washed my hands again. Thoughts? Advice?
It's most likely fine. Water/a saline solution is good enough for rinsing out an eye. I think E. coli is something that can cause conjunctivitis, which antibiotic eye drops will clear up if you need that. A prescribing pharmacist should be able to do that, or it's something where a video/phonecall with a doctor would be fine. People tend to rub their eyes with dirty hands all the time without any infection.
 
It's most likely fine. Water/a saline solution is good enough for rinsing out an eye. I think E. coli is something that can cause conjunctivitis, which antibiotic eye drops will clear up if you need that. A prescribing pharmacist should be able to do that, or it's something where a video/phonecall with a doctor would be fine. People tend to rub their eyes with dirty hands all the time without any infection.
What about dousing with too much visine then rinsing again?
 
I am sorry Kimmio you are struggling with roommate issues

I wanted to note, indelicately, but sometimes people who are constipated have trouble flushing.
I think she just uses way too much paper in one flush. I was buying tp and noticed it was going fast (before the toilet paper hoarding crisis). I mentioned maybe she could pick some up and she said she'd just buy her own (and keep it in her room) because she said she uses a lot of it.

Even if she is constipated we have poor communication and that's up to her to address, not my issue. I hate to sound harsh but if we can barely talk to each other it would be rude for me to question her toilet habits with her. With a friend I could talk, even in a joking not too serious way, about it. She already seemed offended and/ or embarrassed when asked not to flush tampons or pads down.
 
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It’s true. Consider, here, most seniors have also been spared. 35 active cases on the Island - most are elderly. 2 deaths of people 80-90. Think of how many seniors there are in this region. It’s odd, compared to the stats in other places, considering we are right on the Pacific Rim, and a hub for travel and goods from Asia.
I‘ve noticed there is not much Covid-19 on the Island. I‘m surprised too. There are a lot of retirees here. The Lower Mainland has the most.

Sometimes things are flukes. I read a report of a small town in the state of Georgia. There was nothing in their town. Then there were two funerals (not Covid related). This brought in a few people in from elsewhere. This was before social distancing advice became widespread.

Within a few days after the funerals, it just tore through the town. One of the outsiders must have brought it. It‘s contagious before symptoms appear. It is extremely contagious.
 
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