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Kimmio Laughterlove said:
We do. In care homes all the time. With flu outbreaks and norovirus outbreaks and community acquired pneumonia.
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We don't see the types of numbers that are occurring with this.

People don't typically end up in the ICU with norovirus. It can happen, but that level of care isn't a significant number of cases.
 
In BC we have 146 people in hospital, covid related, and 63 in ICU. That's not catastrophic in terms of virus related hospitalizations. On Vancouver Island we've only ever had 14 in hospital, and currently 5 in icu. And 3 deaths. I know for sure two of them were 80-90. Why so low compared to other places? We have a huge elderly population.
 
Which could mean that it isn’t a big thing in B.C. or it could mean that the efforts everyone is doing has slowed the spread enough that hospitals are keeping up

or That people in B.C. are relatively healthy
 
It depends on bed counts, rn counts, vent counts. Space and people and equipment are finite

and I was unaware that you knew about the patient make up of icu. Usually that is confidential info

but I can tell you from my brief periods of covering from NICU to ICU that they are very often no patients with pneumonia. but I guess you should tell us how you know that as well as that data from when this has happened before
 
And while I am not a fan of Doug Ford, he has been very up front about the efforts they are undertaking and the risks to hospitals. Most people are giving him pretty good credit for what he is doing to date
 
One thing ford did discuss last week was moving people around as needed depending on hospital availability

that is something we had to do occasionally in NICU. We could ventilate 20 odd babies. Out of capacity for 47. If we knew premature twins we’re coming over night and we had no bed space that mom was transferred. Hopefully to a TORONTO hospital but not always. Equipment always dictates capacity
 
Lastpointe said:
It depends on bed counts, rn counts, vent counts. Space and people and equipment are finite

and I was unaware that you knew about the patient make up of icu. Usually that is confidential info

but I can tell you from my brief periods of covering from NICU to ICU that they are very often no patients with pneumonia. but I guess you should tell us how you know that as well as that data from when this has happened before
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A loved on was in one, in the thoracic unit. With pneumonia he nearly died from. Bacterial. Hooked up to drainage tubes, oxygen part of the time, surgery and post op care. It was better than a typical icu as there were private rooms. If people with severecovid get to be where he was they will probably survive. All the people in that unit had serious heart and lung diseases.

Why do they mix icu case types together? Peoole are vulnerable to all sorts of things there.
 
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ChemGal said:
And she's not saying, oh this isn't a big deal. We're not anymore concerned about this than the flu. The death rate isn't a concern.
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No but she's not imposing as strict measures and our numbers are lower. I trust she knows what she is doing and won't manipulate this to be authoritarian longer term and will resist if it goes that way. As for the others...I don't trust them.

The only thing is I wish she would take Vancouver Island's low numbers into account and the fact that the island itself is more isolated and let us back off the measures, some. It's not fair to restrict where it's not necessary.
 
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