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ChemGal
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When I saw it, I really was questioning of the historical context, but obviously that wasn't the point of sharing it. Good to get the real background on it.
Pneumococcal Disease, invasive
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"Pneumonia without bacteremia is not reportable" (in other words other cases of viral pneumonia could be being presumed to be covid - in my skeptical opinion). We are also not hearing about secondary bacterial pneumonia following milder cases of covid. Which is a risk with all colds (which include other corona Viruses) and flus. It's all just being called covid, or presumed to be covid, and people are told to stay home and are not being tested.
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Does the drop in (presumed) influenza activity coincide with the increase in presumed covid activity?
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There is no data on current flu activity for Alberta, Sask. and Manitoba and only sporadic activity for most other places.
I am skeptical about skewed stats for covid. I just am. Of course I don't want to catch or pass on covid or anything else and I am of two minds in that I am being very careful but I always am. I never want to catch the flu or bad cold and pass it on either. Now just more so.
FluWatch report: March 22 to 28, 2020 (week 13) - Canada.ca
Influenza surveillance report from March 22 to 28, 2020, published by the Public Health Agency of Canada.
There is no data on current flu activity for Alberta, Sask. and Manitoba and only sporadic activity for most other places.
I am skeptical about skewed stats for covid. I just am. Of course I don't want to catch or pass on covid or anything else and I am of two minds in that I am being very careful but I always am. I never want to catch the flu or bad cold and pass it on either. Now just more so.
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ChemGal
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They are still doing testing, someone from work was told they had influenza this week.Does the drop in (presumed) influenza activity coincide with the increase in presumed covid activity?
FluWatch report: March 22 to 28, 2020 (week 13) - Canada.ca
Influenza surveillance report from March 22 to 28, 2020, published by the Public Health Agency of Canada.
There is no data on current flu activity for Alberta, Sask. and Manitoba and only sporadic activity for most other places.
I am skeptical about skewed stats for covid. I just am. Of course I don't want to catch or pass on covid or anything else and I am of two minds in that I am being very careful but I always am. I never want to catch the flu or bad cold and pass it either. Now just more so.
I've never been tested for the flu. Me and my doctor if I saw one, presumed it was the flu if it started with a fever and I felt really sick and tired more quickly than a cold. I just rode it out. Maybe got a doctors note if it dragged on. Last I remember being that sick was 2013. I didn't get a shot that year. I also wasn't tested for flu.
Seems to me we are under lockdown based on a lot of presumptions - and that is irritating.
ChemGal
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Your experiences can't be expanded to what happens to everyone.
I hope they get widespread tests and antibody tests soon so we're not just left guessing about the real numbers while under lockdown. It's not right.
BetteTheRed
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Kimmio, I think we're under lockdown to prevent what's happened in other parts of the world from happening here. I'm deeply involved in a medium-sized UCCan congregation. They are my family, my friends. Far too many of them are elderly. I'm terrified of who will be gone at the end of this.
I don't think I know anyone who has actually been tested for the flu - except maybe my ex when he was hospitalized for pneumonia and they had to determine the cause. It was bacterial - respiration pneumonia caused by inhaling bacteria.
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Are you that afraid during cold and flu season when kids are coughing in church? Elderly are susceptible to pneumonia of all kinds including pneumonia secondary to the common cold.
It wasn't that long ago that employers expected people to work with colds, and not be off longer than 3 days - and the ethos was "suck it up". I disagree with that but that's how it was. Now, people are suddenly aware. But I don't think a future of social distancing and lockdown for every potential pneumonia causing virus sounds healthy either.
I want to see available testing for everyone, and antibody testing - or I will remain an obedient, hand washing, locked-down skeptic.
Who here has ever been tested for the flu? That is - you were in your normal health - knew you had come down with a bad cold or flu - they were going around - and your doctor actually sent you for lab-work to see what kind of virus it was (when s/he had seen several cold and flu patients already and you were obviously one of them)? Be honest. Has anyone actually been sent for flu or cold tests?
If they don't offer tests to everyone as soon as possible, to seperate those with covid from those with other illness and those who already have antibodies, I think we're getting screwed around.
ChemGal
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The sample was done on site, and yes I have.
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I've said this before. Here I go again. Comparing this to the flu really bugs me. Covid is highly contagious. Non-symptomatic people spread it. Sure, they're citing something like a 2% fatality rate. If only 5% of a community of 90,000 get Covid that will be 4,500 people. If only 2% of those people die, that's 90 people. It seems that many more than 5% of the population will get sick without the stay at home measures. That means more than 90 people will die. It's not like the flu.
Well I know you have. You probably asked for testing because you're curious that way.
Anybody else?
I'm skeptical about whether the presumptive cases can be attributed to covid. They are not widely testing and everything seems to be being attributed to covid.