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Ha no.....but in a hospital setting I wear gloves.

Right. My point is that if washing hands under a tap can make hands safe, then washing fruit can make fruit safe. And these are respiratory viruses, not gastrointestinal ones, so likely can't infect us by being ingested. The only risk from food is touching it then touching eyes, etc. and that applies as much to packaged food as fresh. So gloves and washing hands. No reason to avoid fresh food that I can see.
 
With fruits and vegetables, food born illnesses would still be more of a risk than coronavirus. Always a good idea to wash them.
 
That makes the chances of a vaccine in any sort of short order pretty unlikely.

Yep. Get ready to get sick would be my advice. My suspicion is that we can quarantine until we are blue in the face and sooner or later this thing is going to go pandemic. Hopefully the death rate stays relatively low. Though that may actually help with spreading. Diseases like Ebola that incapacitate and kill a high percentage of their victims generally "burn out" faster since it becomes harder for them to spread compared to one like COVID where people can remain active due to being asymptomatic or only mildly ill.
 
@ChemGal or anyone with virus testing experience....is it possible that a home kit could be developed to test for coronavirus? Something you do at home and send to a lab? (Similar to a FOBT?)Just wondering now that there are over 100 suspected cases in Toronto on top of the confirmed ones.
If a vaccine will take years to develop is screening a more viable option for containment?
 
@ChemGal or anyone with virus testing experience....is it possible that a home kit could be developed to test for coronavirus? Something you do at home and send to a lab? (Similar to a FOBT?)Just wondering now that there are over 100 suspected cases in Toronto on top of the confirmed ones.
If a vaccine will take years to develop is screening a more viable option for containment?

It would be nice if they could, eh. I've never heard of any virus screening that works that way, though. And isn't there risk in sending that via mail or courier? I suppose health units could send suitably protected staff to homes to do it. That might be the closest we could get.
 
@ChemGal or anyone with virus testing experience....is it possible that a home kit could be developed to test for coronavirus? Something you do at home and send to a lab? (Similar to a FOBT?)Just wondering now that there are over 100 suspected cases in Toronto on top of the confirmed ones.
If a vaccine will take years to develop is screening a more viable option for containment?
It's certainly possible, I don't know how much they are working on it. All the samples are getting the official test done in Winnipeg, so they are being sent out anyway.
 
Oh oh....now there's two strains of the virus. One more aggressive than the other. It has mutated.
 
At what point do you become unable, or unwilling to tolerate any more fear?

Hopefully, you see the never changing pattern: You are but a receptor site for para-governmental transnational corporate demoralization campaigns.

What happens to the collective human spirit when we are attacked via mass media with fear bombardment about “the virus.”?

What happens is that everything that makes us human gets reduced to a cockroach-mindset. It becomes a spiritual war of all against all.

When people are in that state, they are extremely controllable.

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A Chinese company just launched a full body plastic shell bat-like suit, “structured like the wings of a sleeping bat,” which isolates them from others and sterilizes their breathing air with ultra-violet radiation technology. It’s called “Be a Batman,” and it promises to make people popular because not only will they not spread “Corona,” they will, during “contact,” help kill it.

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Welcome to the future. Politics can’t trump culture, and our culture is now a Corona culture. A far cry from hippies spreading free love in muddy tents at Woodstock half a century ago, the whole thing now is about contagion, survival, isolation, and the final surrender of all human needs, at least if said needs involve contact with other humans.

Globalism is a religion that propels itself on the notion that all there is to this life is staying alive; The more dutifully afraid you are, of everything, (Climate Change, Brexit, Trump, Trump supporters, words, opinions you disagree with, and now, “Corona,”) the higher your status as a modernist/globalist.

Not one of the doom predication’s of the HIV “pandemic” was born out, despite it being a trillion dollar industry today, designed to float in perpetuity. The vaccine was supposed to be ready in 1985. That’s 35 years ago. Here’s a snapshot of the cost, for a single year:

“According to a 2018 report, $845 million was spent on HIV vaccine research in 2017. And to date, more than 40 potential vaccines have been tested.” [Healthline.com]

An Asian man video-recorded keeling over on a NYC street. In South Korea and Australia, it’s impossible to find a roll of toilet paper. A round-table meeting with POTUS at the NIH centers on the rush to develop vaccines (plural.) A story that a young man who allegedly tested positive for Covid-19 and is in quarantine, shook Vice President Mike Pence’s hand within recent weeks. Panic buying across the world and across the US.

There is one set of numbers I am very interested in, which mainstream media is not interested in at all: The Recovered.

Most who have died have been over 70, many over 80, and had underlying respiratory and other problems. The survival rate for people under 50 has been calculated to be 99.8%.

More than half the number of “confirmed” cases in China have recovered: 47,204.

And this is without a clear “cure.” People mostly recover. Very few die.

I’ve yet to see a death outside of China that is not in a person who was elderly, and had other health complications.

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Well SARS killed around 750 people worldwide in 8 months.....we're dealing with close to 4,000 deaths worldwide since January....
And I'm not sure that just because it's mostly the elderly or compromised dying that it makes it less relevant.....are the elderly not valued as much?
I'm just hoping the numbers in Canada are not going to multiply as fast as China did.....we seem to be at the beginning of an upswing.
 
Well SARS killed around 750 people worldwide in 8 months.....we're dealing with close to 4,000 deaths worldwide since January....
And I'm not sure that just because it's mostly the elderly or compromised dying that it makes it less relevant.....are the elderly not valued as much?
I'm just hoping the numbers in Canada are not going to multiply as fast as China did.....we seem to be at the beginning of an upswing.
It seems as if you want it to be more serious than it is. Am I wrong?
 
It seems as if you want it to be more serious than it is. Am I wrong?
Ha hardly, this is an information thread.....I'm like the rest of the world....not too worried until it gets to close(as in self or family)....Complacency is just as bad as over reacting IMO.
 
What's not to be complacent about ... it is just another 'name' in the 'common cold' game. If you get it ... you are more likely to get over it. You make every effort not to spread it and you take care of yourself to the best of your ability. If it becomes complicated you seek medical treatment as it is available. So how is this different? It is not ... just the level of panic is. They are not cancelling the Olympic Games over it ... the show must go on!
 
The common cold, which is many different viruses, is a coronavirus. They are generally somewhat less deadly than influenza viruses, just because they don't target quite as large a spectrum of organ systems.

It's actually pretty mathematical; the more organs targeted by the symptoms, the larger the population likely to develop complications. It's rarely the virus that kills someone, but rather the symptomatic effect on an already vulnerable organ, due to age, disease status, immune status, etc.
 
With all the rumours, misinformation and hype many people seem to have forgotten to use the power of their frontal lobe! Me? I'm over 70 with COPD. IF I get it I'll likely get pretty sick - maybe die. Just using regular caution and thinking I'm alive and I'll enjoy that state rather than waste time worry warting.
 
What's not to be complacent about ... it is just another 'name' in the 'common cold' game. If you get it ... you are more likely to get over it. You make every effort not to spread it and you take care of yourself to the best of your ability. If it becomes complicated you seek medical treatment as it is available. So how is this different? It is not ... just the level of panic is. They are not cancelling the Olympic Games over it ... the show must go on!
If you were in Wuhan would you say the same thing? I think the panic is probably from the world watching the exponential growth in China over a short time and realizing it might happen elsewhere......and if it does become complicated for many, there may not be enough beds or staff to handle it.
 
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