TRUMP - Some people think......... How do you feel?
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Northwind
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Hearsay? Even Trump admitted he was looking for dirt on the Bidens. That was enough by itself. We've seen him say that.
blackbelt1961
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Crack of what ? My ass ? Blowing you away
Aren't you supposed to be a moderator are you tired of the stupidity you're doing can you like f*** off now
chansen
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Then Trump can release actual verified transcripts of the calls and allow witnesses to appear and that should vindicate him if you're right. Also, Lt. Col. Vindman is in deep trouble and no doubt Trump would love to see the Lt. Col. shown to have lied to congress and be arrested.
By not allowing witnesses and not releasing transcripts, Trump doesn't get exonerated, he doesn't see his accusers thrown in jail, and this drags on. In what world would Donald Trump not want to see all of that happen? The only reasonable answer is the world in which he is guilty of what he was impeached for - this world.
Redbaron
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I'm not doing the stupidity. I'm not denying the reality. I can see Trump for what he is, and what he's doing. Seems you can't.
As the old saying goes, the truth will set you free, but first it will royally piss you off.
Hay, maybe THAT'S why Trump doesn't piss you off. He never tells the truth.
AND WHEN WILL HE RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS??? What is he hiding?
As the old saying goes, the truth will set you free, but first it will royally piss you off.
Hay, maybe THAT'S why Trump doesn't piss you off. He never tells the truth.
AND WHEN WILL HE RELEASE HIS TAX RETURNS??? What is he hiding?
chansen
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You don't write your own property descriptions for MLS, do you?
blackbelt1961
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You know why I don't engage in conversation with you as well cuz your an AHole loves to instigate
You know you're an arsehole on the religion thread as well
blackbelt1961
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You just can't stop being an ass hole can you ? I mean it's in your blood
Northwind
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This is an excellent article.
You foolish evangelicals, Trump has bewitched you
"You foolish evangelicals, Trump has bewitched you. Stop calling him good when he is evil, light when he is darkness. Have nothing to do with him."
You foolish evangelicals, Trump has bewitched you
"You foolish evangelicals, Trump has bewitched you. Stop calling him good when he is evil, light when he is darkness. Have nothing to do with him."
Ritafee
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I am not bewitched but I must admit I am often bewildered ... and not just by Trump.
“…I knew there were no nuclear weapons in Iraq. It just wasn’t there….The intelligence did not show that that was the case. So, I knew it was a misrepresentation to the public. But having said that, it was, in my view, not a ground for impeachment.”
“…I knew there were no nuclear weapons in Iraq. It just wasn’t there….The intelligence did not show that that was the case. So, I knew it was a misrepresentation to the public. But having said that, it was, in my view, not a ground for impeachment.”
chansen
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Evangelicals are evil hypocrites. It's not that Trump has them fooled - it's that they're a lot alike.
blackbelt1961
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Another good Read, what do you think ?I am not bewitched but I must admit I am often bewildered ... and not just by Trump.
“…I knew there were no nuclear weapons in Iraq. It just wasn’t there….The intelligence did not show that that was the case. So, I knew it was a misrepresentation to the public. But having said that, it was, in my view, not a ground for impeachment.”
Is the United States on the brink of a revolution?
The United States is exhibiting several of the signs that have historically resulted in uprisings and revolutions. Is another American revolution looming?
theconversation.com
blackbelt1961
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Here is Nancy Pelosi explaining how to be a professional liarI am not bewitched but I must admit I am often bewildered ... and not just by Trump.
“…I knew there were no nuclear weapons in Iraq. It just wasn’t there….The intelligence did not show that that was the case. So, I knew it was a misrepresentation to the public. But having said that, it was, in my view, not a ground for impeachment.”
Redbaron
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Well, if you're in the mood to read, here is an excellent example of Trump's brain at work. Happy pondering.
www.newsandguts.com
Quote Of The Weekend: Donald Trump - News & Guts Media
The President appeared before the conservative group Turning Point USA over the weekend. Beyond his usual complaints about Democrats and impeachment, he went hard after windmills. Here is what he said. Try to follow along. From Mediaite: “I never understood wind,” Trump said. “I know windmills...
www.newsandguts.com
chansen
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Yeah, you tried to post the same clip of Pelosi in a different video before:
The "wrap up smear" is a favourite Trump tactic that she was explaining. In the same way that people try to explain to you the evidence of Trump bribing Ukraine. The tactic is you smear someone with false allegations, the press reports the allegations, then you point to the press as corroboration of the allegations that *you* started in the first place.
Trump often says "a lot of people are saying" to float smears in the media. Once they report what Trump alleges, now Trump can say it's been reported. It's stupid how people fall for this. But you certainly do.
Note this does not describe the Kavanaugh confirmation hearings or anything of the sort. It does describe the allegations that Obama had Trump wiretapped.
Did Nancy Pelosi Admit Democrats Use a Tactic Called the 'Wrap-Up Smear?'
Unreliable sources claimed Pelosi admitted on video that Democrats use such a tactic, but in reality she ascribed it to Republicans.
www.snopes.com
Ritafee
Is Being Human
Members of both parties are routinely involved in grossly immoral activities from corruption to propping up the permanent warfare state to covering up the ugly deeds of empire. People are occasionally made examples of but more often than not criminal behavior is simply ignored legalized or grounds for promotion. I think for now I have read enough. This empire is on it's last leg. Trump or no Trump … Merry christmas to all and to all a good night!
revjohn
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blackbelt1961 said:
Hearsay is indirect.
The Whistleblower, not being a party to the call, offers hearsay. Which is why the Democrats did not call the Whistleblower to testify.
Why do you think Trump and the Republicans wanted the Whistleblower called?
Lt. Col Vindman was part of the call. He doesn't offer hearsay. He offers eye-witness testimony. He recalls what Trump said.
Taylor and Williams were also part of the call and their testimony corroborates Vindman's.
That is three eye-witnessed agreeing that Trump presurred Ukraine.
Three.
Verses the absolutely none who testified that Trump did not pressure Ukraine.
Sondland testifies to an actual pressure campaign outside of the call and he details the energy invested in trying to get Ukraine to cave and announce the investigation into Biden.
That is a fourth witness providing testimony that Trump wanted Ukraine to give him a big fat juicy prize. And it was clear that Ukraine did not have to follow through with an investigation, they only had to participate in the farce of alleging an investigation to damage the Biden name.
That is four eye-witnesses.
Not hearsay.
And one if those eye-witnesses is a Trump crony who got his ambassadorship based not on any actual diplomatic experience but because of the size of his donation to Trump's campaign.
Presumeably others could tell a different story under oath.
The President will not permit that.
The Senate will not allow that.
Only you, thus far in this thread believes that screams innocence. And when pressed you allege hearsay, which is not what Vindman, Taylor, Williams or Sondland offer. You claim "feelings" where the others have provided facts.
Nowhere do you offer any rebuttal to the allegations made by eye-witnesses. You cannit even point to testimony offered under oath which calls the eye-witness testimony into question.
So go ahead. Disprove the testimony offered. Demonstrate how Vindman, Taylor and Williams are wrong about their interpretation of the phone call. Demonstrate how Sondland, in his testimony regarding his own role perjured himself and reported about his activity from a hearsay position.
I'm open to hearing how individual A can testify about their own actions and have that regarded as hearsay.
revjohn
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The Flag in the Whirlwind: An Update from CT’s President
Why our editor in chief spoke out against Trump, and why the conversation must continue.
www.christianitytoday.com
Respect.
This certainly will not dismantle Trump's base. It is going to show that there is more sand than rock.
It may not drive any to consider a Democrat. It might cause more than a few Republicans to stay home on election day if Trump is the Republican at the top.
The House flipped because the democrats were able to motivate their base.
The Senate sitting on a pile of bills passed through congress and serving notice that they intend to forgo impartiality with respect to impeachment isn't going to motivate many.