How to deter dogs.

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I would -
  • Contact Canada Post to report the problem & ask about any responsibility for the property adjacent to their community mail boxes.
  • Contact my city counsellor & public health dept to find out about any local regulations re poop & scoop for animal owners.
  • Contact my local newspaper to ask them about maybe doing a story to create some public pressure about the issue.
  • Post about it on any local facebook groups - eg community, ratepayers groups etc. - see what others are encountering - see if wider interest is there to getting the city to do something about it.
The pepper idea is probably not great - I could see that becoming backlash about you creating 'danger' in public spaces.

Some people are just jerks & will not ever look after this & think their animals should also run free. Others may change when they recognize the health & safety hazard this is to others. Others need that enforcement nudge.
 
Carolla said:
I would -
  • Contact Canada Post to report the problem & ask about any responsibility for the property adjacent to their community mail boxes.
  • Contact my city counsellor & public health dept to find out about any local regulations re poop & scoop for animal owners.
  • Contact my local newspaper to ask them about maybe doing a story to create some public pressure about the issue.
  • Post about it on any local facebook groups - eg community, ratepayers groups etc. - see what others are encountering - see if wider interest is there to getting the city to do something about it.
The pepper idea is probably not great - I could see that becoming backlash about you creating 'danger' in public spaces.

Some people are just jerks & will not ever look after this & think their animals should also run free. Others may change when they recognize the health & safety hazard this is to others. Others need that enforcement nudge.
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Great ideas. I had a day of rest today, but will be ready to make some phone calls tomorrow. We are county, so not as much interest in issues like that as in a city/ town. Will report back what I find out .
 
Called the county today. Talked to the animal control officer. He came and looked at the location and will attach an official sign. There is a post right by the mail box, I am guessing it is going there.
I asked him if he knows/ has any experience with deterrents like using vinegar to eliminate the smell or pepper, but he didn’t. The vet’s office also couldn’t tell, but said pepper would probably just make the dogs sneeze.
 
As a responsible dog owner, I’d be really angry if someone put some sort or deterrent around a public space. That isn’t fair to all the dogs and dog owners who aren’t a nuisance and could cause unfair problems.
 
Greywolf336 said:
As a responsible dog owner, I’d be really angry if someone put some sort or deterrent around a public space. That isn’t fair to all the dogs and dog owners who aren’t a nuisance and could cause unfair problems.
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I don't understand why this would be an issue. Does a dog have to stand right at the mailbox spot?
Dogs actually aren't allowed at all public spaces unless they are service animals. Ie. schools, playgrounds.
 
ChemGal said:
I don't understand why this would be an issue. Does a dog have to stand right at the mailbox spot?
Dogs actually aren't allowed at all public spaces unless they are service animals. Ie. schools, playgrounds.
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Dogs aren't allowed in playgrounds? Last I checked around here, they are if they are on leash.
 
Mendalla said:
Dogs aren't allowed in playgrounds? Last I checked around here, they are if they are on leash.
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Dogs are not permitted in picnic areas, playgrounds or sports fields. Dogs may be walked on trails only if they are on leash. Dogs may be off leash on parkland and trails only if you are in a designated off-leash area.
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I think some of the concern there is whether or not a dog can big picked up after before a kid steps in it when on a playground. Also, not all that hygienic or the safest if they are on playground equipment.
 
Wow, that's some of the strictest dog by-laws I have come across. Don't think it's that strict here. Would put chunks of the riverfront parks off limits to dog walkers for starters.
 
Mendalla said:
Wow, that's some of the strictest dog by-laws I have come across. Don't think it's that strict here. Would put chunks of the riverfront parks off limits to dog walkers for starters.
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I thought it was fairly typical for cities?
Yes, people should pick up after their dogs, but if you let a dog out onto a sports field there is always the risk of stuff being missed, not pleasant in the middle of a soccer game.

The trail rule is there due to ecological & wildlife concerns.
 
ChemGal said:
I thought it was fairly typical for cities?
Yes, people should pick up after their dogs, but if you let a dog out onto a sports field there is always the risk of stuff being missed, not pleasant in the middle of a soccer game.

The trail rule is there due to ecological & wildlife concerns.
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Leash laws are the norm around here. Basically, if the dog is off your property and not in an off-leash park (we have at least two in London that are away from sports fields and such), then they must be leashed. And there are some rules around length of the lead, too. After that, it's "stoop and scoop".
 
Mendalla said:
Leash laws are the norm around here. Basically, if the dog is off your property and not in an off-leash park (we have at least two in London that are away from sports fields and such), then they must be leashed. And there are some rules around length of the lead, too. After that, it's "stoop and scoop".
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Would be interesting the Toronto is like London or more like here.
 
Greywolf336 said:
As a responsible dog owner, I’d be really angry if someone put some sort or deterrent around a public space. That isn’t fair to all the dogs and dog owners who aren’t a nuisance and could cause unfair problems.
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My thought was that the dog(s) have marked their spot/ territory and will continue to do so. Vinegar could eliminate some of the smell, so they are no longer attracted to it. Kind of like you do if you have an indoor ant invasion. I would think that dogs smell well enough to notice it before they stand right on the spot and take a deep breather.
 
My friend said that there are a lot of people who have significant pepper allergies - which I never heard of, so pepper is out.
 
High park in Toronto has a fabulous off leash area for dogs. Trails, a big hill to run around in, shade, water. All of it fenced.

It is amazing

Yet, crazy dog activist types routinely cut the fencing to let their dogs run in the wooded areas. Signs are up that the park is trying to protect fragile eco systems. They simply don’t care and it is infuriating

As a responsible dog owner I get so frustrated by the behaviour of a few

Most days of the week there is no poop around, the dogs are all regulars. But if you go first thing on a Monday morning there is lots. The Sunday visitors from other parts of the city don’t seem to care about our park as much as we do. I will sometimes pick up 8 poops in my hour walk

Signs help. Policing it by volunteers helps. Guilting people helps. Having bags there helps.

If I see a dog going and not being picked up I shout at the person. They almost always say “ sorry I don’t have a bag” and I happily pull one out of my pocket
 
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