What does the Bible mean that we are not to judge others?

[Northwind]

There are 2 judgments ---worldly and Spiritual -----

Spiritual Judgment is concerned with the person staying out of Sin and being keeping them from bring duped in what is right and wrong in God's eyes -----

Northwind -----your quote ----That's a completely different situation. Of course----

unsafe says ----No it is not ---you have a Babe in Christ one who was in the world and is now living differently than they did -----they are prone still to their old ways and need guidance as to the proper actions to suit God not this world -----

There is no difference ----it is rightly judging right from wrong and guiding them to safety in the world they are in and in this case it is the Spiritual -----

if you can see that then ??????

Nope. I do not see what you are saying at all. Not even close.

 

[Northwind]

Spiritual Judgment is concerned with the person staying out of Sin and being keeping them from bring duped in what is right and wrong in God's eyes -----

While I agree with the idea that there is a difference between spiritual judgement (discernment) and worldly judgement, I don't see how it works in your example.

Spiritual discernment to me involves prayer and meditation. Reflection on the message and how it applies to my life. It does not involve blindly accepting what is being thrown at me

Worldly judgement might involve situations like the child safety example. The nuts and bolts of living day to day.

We all make decisions based on our experiences and the consequences of our choices. Some believe god is telling them to not eat pork or to wear their hair unshorn. Others express their faith differently.

I fail to see how throwing bible verses around is guidance. It's using the bible as a weapon, not as a tool to guide.

 

[unsafe]

The purpose of posting scripture is to make people aware that there is scripture to support the Thread topic and I am here to share scripture ----and as far as God's word being a weapon goes -----it was Redbaron who started that conversation not me -----I answered his post to me -----that what got that started -----This Thread is on righteous Judgment and it turned into the weapon scene -----

this is that post
Redbaron ------your quote -----
turning the bible into an aggressive weapon....
Who around here does that?


Northwind ---your quote ------Spiritual discernment to me involves prayer and meditation. Reflection on the message and how it applies to my life. It does not involve blindly accepting what is being thrown at me

unsafe says -----well that is your belief ----mine is different ----it is all about knowing what God's word says ----anyone who has the Holy Spirit indwelling in them had the proper guidance already there ---and will be directed rightly as long as they know what the scripture says to rightly judge the wrong behaviour for a brother or sister in Christ ----- but you have to be aware of God's will for right living in His domain -----and that means knowing what His word says ----Praying is great but discernment is a fruit of the Spirit -----

For example ---this scripture is great for showing spiritual discernment and rightly judging ------no prayer was need as Paul knew what was right and Peter was acting wrongly -----Paul knew the truth that was in the Good News --he did not have to pray about it ----the Holy Spirit guided him by the Truth ----and the Holy Spirit will guide the True Christ-ian to the truth to correct the wrong action ------Knowing Scripture and What God expects of His Disciples is key in correction and we have to know the word very well -----

Spiritual discernment is knowing right and wrong actions and prayer is definitely good to do ---but we need to be aware of the word as well so that when a brother or sister falls ------we can quickly correct the wrong action -----


Galatians 2:11-14 (CEV)
Paul Corrects Peter at Antioch
11 When Peter came to Antioch, I told him face to face that he was wrong.

12 He used to eat with Gentile followers of the Lord, until James sent some Jewish followers. Peter was afraid of the Jews and soon stopped eating with Gentiles.

13 He and the other Jews hid their true feelings so well that even Barnabas was fooled.

14 But when I saw that they were not really obeying the truth that is in the good news, I corrected Peter in front of everyone and said:

Peter, you are a Jew, but you live like a Gentile. So how can you force Gentiles to live like Jews?

This is how I see it ------

 

[chansen]

This is a critical point. Discernment can't exist where there is black and white thinking. It involves nuance and critical thinking skills

Using the child safety example, we teach children to assess the safety of the situation so they can decide whether to cross the road safely.

Discerning the message we are receiving is equally important. If we blindly accept what we are being "taught" we are being brainwashed.

This.

 

[Northwind]

---it was Redbaron who started that conversation not me -----I answered his post to me -----that what got that started -----This Thread is on righteous Judgment and it turned into the weapon scene -----

this is that post
Redbaron ------your quote -----
turning the bible into an aggressive weapon....
Who around here does that?

Um, you were the one who posted the picture of the bible shaped as a gun.....

-it is all about knowing what God's word says ----anyone who has the Holy Spirit indwelling in them had the proper guidance already there ---and will be directed rightly as long as they know what the scripture says to rightly judge the wrong behaviour for a brother or sister in Christ ----- but you have to be aware of God's will for right living in His domain -----and that means knowing what His word says ----Praying is great but discernment is a fruit of the Spirit -----

You are reflecting and praying to know gods will when you do that. You may call it listening or knowing, it's still the same thing.

 

[chansen]

I never saw the picture before I assume it was removed, but googling "bible shaped like a gun" makes it plain that this is not a new idea.

Wow.

 

[Northwind]

I never saw the picture before I assume it was removed, but googling "bible shaped like a gun" makes it plain that this is not a new idea.

Wow.

Yes, it was pretty odd. To say the least.

 

[Northwind]

@unsafe help me to understand how your life has been changed by following "the truth" How do you live your life outside of here. We can make this a different thread if you want to respond. I'm also willing to have a private conversation about this if you prefer. I don't want to derail.

I'm still interested in knowing this @unsafe

 

[Luce NDs]

Unsafe must have me on ignore. She doesn’t reply to me anymore.

If one lives in an state of ignore mode for considerable time ... what is the consequence?

Is it like living in a stonewall? It seems it resembles hard set and like a statute ... unable to independently flex with learning ...

There would be pious objections for sure!

 

[Ritafee]

unsafe says -----As a Born Again Holy Spirit Filled Chrst--ian I will never leave a babe in Christ to float around this wicked world who is trying to become a steady and stable follower of Christ and who is trying to strengthen their faith in their walk with Christ ----I will always use discernment and direct them in the right path towards their goal of being a True Disciple of Christ -----being a True Christ is very --very hard and one has to build up thick skin and be Rooted and Grounded totally in God's word AND Faith to be able to withstand the storms that Will come against them -----

That takes years to accomplish and lots of practice ------

Are you accounting for the difference in speed between 4G and 5G?

 

[revsdd]

I needed a break from WC2 (and other social media) for a whole lot of reasons. I drop in today for the first time in weeks and one of the first things I come across is a meme of the Bible in the shape of a handgun. Sick. Truly sick. I may leave again for several weeks after that. Truly sick.

 

[Northwind]

I needed a break from WC2 (and other social media) for a whole lot of reasons. I drop in today for the first time in weeks and one of the first things I come across is a meme of the Bible in the shape of a handgun. Sick. Truly sick. I may leave again for several weeks after that. Truly sick.

Please don't let that scare you away.

 

[ninj]

I needed a break from WC2 (and other social media) for a whole lot of reasons. I drop in today for the first time in weeks and one of the first things I come across is a meme of the Bible in the shape of a handgun. Sick. Truly sick. I may leave again for several weeks after that. Truly sick.

I put in a report saying the image was disturbing.

 

[BetteTheRed]

We've all agreed it is a horrible image; purple has been applied and there's been conversation with unsafe. Would everyone feel better if I edited the two posts they appear in (Unsafe's and waterfall's - describing it as gross) to remove the image?

 

[Luce NDs]

The veil of the gun and 7 angels of Spann/spam are used to kill something ... consider the hamm we get from other powerful leaders ... thus we eat crow!

 

[GeoFee]

Hi,

That takes years to accomplish and lots of practice

This has certainly been the case in my experience. I committed myself to the way of the cross, having counted the cost, at the age of thirty. Following in the way of truth revealed in the gospel of Jesus, I began a process of sanctification. As silver is refined seven times in a furnace of earth. The dross burned away and the presence of God revealed.

We like to talk the talk but not so much like to walk the talk

I could not agree more. Perhaps you could, briefly, tell us how you walk the walk? What kinds of persons do you meet along your way? How is grace manifest as you engage such persons? Are you an advocate for justice in the public square? These questions are all rooted in the example of Jesus. As his followers, surely our actions should resemble his? Of course, if you like, I can begin the process by sharing just a few examples of my experience along the way of the cross. Let me know how we can go forward together in hope!

God loves and forgives us all - unconditionally!

George

 

[Ritafee]

We've all agreed it is a horrible image; purple has been applied and there's been conversation with unsafe. Would everyone feel better if I edited the two posts they appear in (Unsafe's and waterfall's - describing it as gross) to remove the image?

Removing a a photo shopped image of an image of a book ... righteous judgement call?

Who also has made able ministers of the testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter kills, but the spirit gives life ?

"...after those days, I will put My teaching within them and write it on their hearts."

 

[Luce NDs]

Removing a a photo shopped image of an image of a book ... righteous judgement call?

Who also has made able ministers of the testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter kills, but the spirit gives life ?

"...after those days, I will put My teaching within them and write it on their hearts."

First the persons have to learn of NU things ... which considered strange would make them scared ... mimicking God-Fear!

 

[Luce NDs]

Knowledge is evil ... says so in the bible! I 've been instructed that by a born-again!

What can you conclude from such rationale?

 

[Ritafee]

The “Bible as word of God” .... spending endless hours arguing about who Jesus was, comparing scriptures, finding hidden meanings, proving their interpretations right, and proving the interpretations of others wrong ... all to bypass 'Doing'?. I have no problem with searching the scriptures but I also like to suppose ... if there was not one copy of scripture left in print ... would 'God' be literally dead or spiritually dead?