It seems to me that @unsafe believes that she and... maybe you and... maybe PG-13 are safe while the rest of us are fit for the pit. I could be mistaken about that. As I recall, however, she does often question whether most here who claim to be Christians truly are. She seems most interested in questioning the validity of faith that doesn't exactly match up with her own. I believe she has set herself up in her mind as the gold standard of true Christianity which the rest of us must match up with or else burn.
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It seems to me that @unsafe believes that she and... maybe you and... maybe PG-13 are safe while the rest of us are fit for the pit. I could be mistaken about that. As I recall, however, she does often question whether most here who claim to be Christians truly are. She seems most interested in questioning the validity of faith that doesn't exactly match up with her own. I believe she has set herself up in her mind as the gold standard of true Christianity which the rest of us must match up with or else burn.
blackbelt1961
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your seems is wrong Jae, Scripture teaches Jesus is the only way, so that is what you or anyone else will get out of me, unsafe, PG_13,
BUT, what we dont claim is what the outcome will be on Judgement day for unbelievers, that Judgement belongs to Jesus
does scripture not speak of , True and False Church, wheat and tears ? Truth & falsehoods ,
blackbelt1961
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I shared my understanding of @unsafe's view of people's current spiritual position. At least for now, I stand by my understanding.
blackbelt said:
What I believe separates the wheat and the tares is belief in Jesus Christ vs. lack thereof - not secondary issues such as what theory of inspiration one happens to subscribe to.
Feelings aren't always accurate are they?
GeoFee
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Hi,
With apologies to seeler, for this digression, let me offer an example of unsafe's accusative voice from this thread.
George
Perhaps your memory is more selective than mine. Over the years unsafe has consistently accused me of being a false teacher. At times she has stated that I will be going to hell because what I speak about in the hearing of various faith communities. In general unsafe gives the impression that persons of faith who do not quote scripture as she quotes scripture are totally lost and confused. She only gets what scripture is saying and because of this her words are equivalent to the word of God. Sorry, not credible from where I sit. To debate this point with unsafe is next to impossible. No matter what I ask or suggest, briefly, she answers with volumes of cut and pasted scripture and opinion from various sources. Always affirming her rectitude and rejecting my insights as false teaching. This falling far short of debate.
With apologies to seeler, for this digression, let me offer an example of unsafe's accusative voice from this thread.
Here seeler is presented as someone who generates "confusion", "speculation" and "contradiction to the Truth of Scripture"; going on to say that "These three things do not come from God ----- they come from Satan." This in the context of seeler's posting of her general insights as she reads through the scripture. Why this judgement of another; someone I know to be intelligent, faithful, kind and caring specific to those who suffer in society? Someone who is loved and accepted by God no matter what her shortcomings may be; just as unsafe is.
George
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blackbelt1961
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blackbelt1961
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we all have short Cummings , that's a given , but our being loving , faithful, kind , ect , does not give validity to Truth, only God does that , lets not lose focus , which in my understanding is what Unsafe is arguing , Truth vs falsehood, not acceptance.
lets not forget , satan is a beautiful angel of Light , he offers wool to keep you warm without the Lamb
blackbelt1961
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You cannot have grace without truth (and vise versa) ; they are different characteristics of the same face of the Creator , John 1:14.
The good seminarian wanted to Justify himself by Law, but it was non other than Truth & Grace before him that would Justify.
The trick for us mortals is to find the proper balance, which is reveled in relationship between God & man.
The heart of man will be Judged in Spirit & Truth By Christ , he alone Knows the outcome, what I do know for sure is that sheep & goats , exist .
unsafe
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Jesus knows the Sheep because the Sheep belong to Him -----when they help others they do it for Jesus and God gets the Glory ---that is why the Sheep are put on the right ----The Sheep's heart is with Jesus
The Goats are away from Jesus and do things their own way ---so when the Goats help others they do it to give themselves Glory not God ---and they are put on the left side of Jesus ------ The Goats heart is away from Jesus ------
The Goats are away from Jesus and do things their own way ---so when the Goats help others they do it to give themselves Glory not God ---and they are put on the left side of Jesus ------ The Goats heart is away from Jesus ------
Pontifex Geronimo 13
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George likes to hold these parables up as evidence that Jesus says you will be saved by your works. The kind of works George has committed his life to.
Does that interpretation stand up to the rest of scripture? Or even this scripture itself?
It could be gone over line by line, but that becomes quickly problematic.
As there are infinite answers to what is 2+2, there is in fact only one correct answer. The rest are wrong. That is how truth works.
Does that interpretation stand up to the rest of scripture? Or even this scripture itself?
It could be gone over line by line, but that becomes quickly problematic.
As there are infinite answers to what is 2+2, there is in fact only one correct answer. The rest are wrong. That is how truth works.
I've learned about these beliefs while earning my bachelor's degree and my Master of Divinity.
blackbelt said:
Ah, there are different ideas as to the nature of the true inspiration and which is correct is a secondary issue to faith in Jesus Christ.
Life is challenging ... and causes some conflict for people that cannot be enlightened about strange things ... extending hostility!
Is God a mystery of passion after all these times that we don't know much due to rules of those directing the orders?
That's the roue's ... like a Joker in the high courts ... satyrs visiting for the fetes ...
Is God a mystery of passion after all these times that we don't know much due to rules of those directing the orders?
That's the roue's ... like a Joker in the high courts ... satyrs visiting for the fetes ...
dreamerman
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blackbelt1961
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Seeler
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I find the theme of Peter's letter similar to that of the epistles to Timothy and Titus - advice and instructions from a senior to a younger person or group, Peter, a Jew, is writing to other Jews advising and encouraging them in their faith in difficult times. His letter emphasized obedience. Women obey ... children obey...slaves obey .
Certainly his message is very different than that of the radical Paul. Paul taught equality between men and women, slaves and free.
Certainly his message is very different than that of the radical Paul. Paul taught equality between men and women, slaves and free.
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