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BetteTheRed said:
What does? This particular resurrection? In his 30 years on earth, he resurrected ONE person, who was his good friend, who is going to die again some day anyway, and Jesus also makes his friend's sisters suffer for a full two extra days. I'm not seeing compassion, love or mercy in this story. I am, however, seeing, exhibitionism, cruelty, random/biased do-gooding.
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if one believes in the promises this man we call Jesus who raised this one Lazarus , millions will resurrect and In a new shinny body too !

I believe it
 
BetteTheRed ----with all due respect ----God says this about the Natural Person -----

1 Corinthians 2:14 (ERV)

14 People who do not have God’s Spirit do not accept the things that come from his Spirit. They think these things are foolish. They cannot understand them, because they can only be understood with the Spirit’s help.




 
Mendalla said:
A new body for playing shinny???:eek: This Jesus is a bit weird. o_O

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Oh, it was a typo, wasn't it? :oops:
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Then the altruistic Jesus is probably alien to those demanding Roman-type conformance ... and that would be undone as an unknown and thus denied ... eliminated? One must remain confined by the conformance box ... outside intelligence thus fades ...
 
Makes me think of:
ALTRUISM --- the belief in or practice of disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others.

Can you believe a religion based on personal success can hold the line with this definition?

It really make an open minded and open hearted person feel corrupt and not wishing to be within this reality ... thus the departure syndrome as the begone essence! That wispy gnawing sensation?

Some don't get it whatsoever ... perhaps just a mental spirit and we all know we are taught the mind is non-existent ... thus departed thoughts ...

Obviously we live in an insane environment contrary to some of the greatest authority ...

Pure BS or just idiotic allegories about what can fly like a missal in the dark ... satyrs? Maybe just asses acting the part of Don Quixote's ... jousting against nothing ... complex metaphors ... deeply layered ...
 
unsafe said:
BetteTheRed ----with all due respect ----God says this about the Natural Person -----

1 Corinthians 2:14 (ERV)

14 People who do not have God’s Spirit do not accept the things that come from his Spirit. They think these things are foolish. They cannot understand them, because they can only be understood with the Spirit’s help.
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So, the point you are making is that if I think the same as you, a "Spiritual Person", I will not see the ugliness in this particular story? Your answer to the "cruelty" charge is "God knows best"? Why would it be recorded this way?
 
BetteTheRed said:
So, the point you are making is that if I think the same as you, a "Spiritual Person", I will not see the ugliness in this particular story? Your answer to the "cruelty" charge is "God knows best"? Why would it be recorded this way?
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Because gods are cruel war mongers ... like Caesars! THen there are others that wander off the field of battle ... pastoral types? Bump kins in the shadows and fringes ... fleeing! They know that war is costly ... thus an oppositional meanness ...

Make jest ... let the opposing due battle ... then there are militant Christians ... an alien burn ... demos in satyr ...
 
@unsafe, quite frankly, if I were to post something with the proviso, "with all due respect" and then tell a person that they are a "Natural" Person versus a "Spiritual" Person, I'd be suffering from hubris, at best, passive-aggression, at least. What exactly do you think you know about my spiritual life?
 
So, might the consensus be that this is a "high Christology" story foreshadowing Jesus' death and resurrection? And his stature? As in, I can do it to my friend, so it is possible with me?
 
BetteTheRed said:
What does? This particular resurrection? In his 30 years on earth, he resurrected ONE person, who was his good friend, who is going to die again some day anyway, and Jesus also makes his friend's sisters suffer for a full two extra days. I'm not seeing compassion, love or mercy in this story. I am, however, seeing, exhibitionism, cruelty, random/biased do-gooding.
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Bette, your posts make me think.
 
BetteTheRed said:
@unsafe, quite frankly, if I were to post something with the proviso, "with all due respect" and then tell a person that they are a "Natural" Person versus a "Spiritual" Person, I'd be suffering from hubris, at best, passive-aggression, at least. What exactly do you think you know about my spiritual life?
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Such Eris then in ancient language as noted in writ ... Eris is dissonance. Use of that word is like dissonance, or destructive interference so that you know there is an anomaly in an area ... like thought in a purely emotional space.

I used that word like that in a writer's group ... causing some retired English Literature Profs to expel me because I used an unknown word in conjunction with "Eros". Never impose unknowns on those the know stuff definitively ... no-names included ... thus the vasti-st unknown is denied ... denial of that support can also keep us ignorant of sex, politics, business and other means of screwing up the demos education ... as we are often told learning and science are evil.

Is not some golden balance required in the Golden Dragon by Rule? That would tip the scales in Tipperary, no ... yet the singular Dimension appears the only way here until we cross the equity line ... as base to those controlling the Moors ...

Recall what makes up the myth and Mithra of the Golden Bull ... altruism, or avarice? Free choice of how you get along in the caldron ... an awesome hole place ... that is abstract ... I.E. missing parts!

If it all come together as we cross the great ultimate would a flash occur of all past time as described in some tales about NDE and OBI's as obvious anomaly? Thus irrational thinking processes that don't conform ... supports science (observation) and fiction (unknown) things ... considering what we know and what some tyrants would keep us from knowing contrary to the biblical directive of teach my children ... that concept made Erasmus a bit erascable ... odd thing, know! Runs parallel to hostile doubletalk by the greatest powers.

Essence of concepts in existential sorts that despise unknown thoughts or stuff they are uneasy about as unknowns ... the Hebrews have great respect there ... then great books of myth are like Golden Bulls and yet few really read into the depths thereof ... and realize there is no Bottom ... missing as' is's? Just carried by the great swirl of mind ... opposing the alternate chaos ...

Yet ignorance and not knowing appears to be winning as the gods wish to put dangerous people down ... altruistic thinkers! Little folk dancing around a large false point ... the Oh ... from which is derived Theo-ism ... and Theodore will not let us out without the Qui word ... as Q ...
 
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BetteTheRed --------- Yes, not so much in two days. Why 4? Don't understand the hymn, really. unsafe says ---Not surprised by your comment ------God makes it very clear in His word that the Natural Man ---Woman will not understand cause Satan has blinded the mind of this world and Jesus actually gives a statement to this effect in this story of Lazarus in verse 9 and by the way verse 4 give the reason Jesus waited --

GWT
4 When Jesus heard it, he said, “The final result of this sickness will not be the death of Lazarus; this has happened in order to bring glory to God, and it will be the means by which the Son of God will receive glory.”


9 Jesus said, “A day has twelve hours, doesn't it? So those who walk in broad daylight do not stumble, for they see the light of this world. 10 But if they walk during the night they stumble, because they have no light.”
 
blackbelt1961 said:
to make such judgement on Christ on one event such as raising Lazarus, is willful bias blindness on who the Fullness of who Jesus is
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I don't think anyone who rejects/judges Christ is doing it on the basis of one event, though.
 
Mendalla said:
I don't think anyone who rejects/judges Christ is doing it on the basis of one event, though.
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I think so, Betty said this :

This particular resurrection? In his 30 years on earth, he resurrected ONE person, who was his good friend, who is going to die again some day anyway, and Jesus also makes his friend's sisters suffer for a full two extra days. I'm not seeing compassion, love or mercy in this story. I am, however, seeing, exhibitionism, cruelty, random/biased do-gooding.


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30 years on earth , did Jesus only preform that one deed in 30 yrs? , Betty's view of Jesus as exhibitionism, cruelty, random/biased is not consistent with His 30 yrs on earth
 
blackbelt1961 said:
I think so, Betty said this :

This particular resurrection? In his 30 years on earth, he resurrected ONE person, who was his good friend, who is going to die again some day anyway, and Jesus also makes his friend's sisters suffer for a full two extra days. I'm not seeing compassion, love or mercy in this story. I am, however, seeing, exhibitionism, cruelty, random/biased do-gooding.


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30 years on earth , did Jesus only preform that one deed in 30 yrs? , Betty's view of Jesus as exhibitionism, cruelty, random/biased is not consistent with His 30 yrs on earth
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Are you speaking of random irrationalism ... an ordinary thing while in an emotional dimension ... terribly spirited state of mind? Thus rational thoughts are displaced ... to where? More unknowns and the unknown heap expands ...

Emotions can be brutal when putting down thoughts and processing entities ... leads to sub conscious ... or underlying cognizance ... reason to dig ... minor, or minas thing ...
 
BetteTheRed -----your quote -----So, the point you are making is that if I think the same as you, a "Spiritual Person", I will not see the ugliness in this particular story? Your answer to the "cruelty" charge is "God knows best"? Why would it be recorded this way?

unsafe says ------No---- the answer is that we humans screwed up and God the Father out of his Agape for His Creation Sent His Only Begotten Son to rectify what we did and to bring us back to where we should be -----you see the cruelty because you are blinded to seeing the Agape side of it ---Satan has done a good job of hiding the truth ----The Problem is we worldly humans think we are all that and we have everything figured out but what a shock many will have in the end when they go before God ----which is a sure thing according to scripture -----

unsafe posted scripture
Philippians 2:8-11 (GNT)
8 He was humble and walked the path of obedience all the way to death—
his death on the cross.
9 For this reason God raised him to the highest place above
and gave him the name that is greater than any other name.

10 And so, in honor of the name of Jesus
all beings in heaven, on earth, and in the world below
will fall on their knees,

11 and all will openly proclaim that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.


unsafe says -----NOTICE ---here it says -----all will fall and openly proclaim ------This is a Promise ----- So do it now or do it later is our choice -----but the thing is ----We will do it ------So keep up BetteTheRed with your worldly thinking while you are here if that is your choice ---you will know the real truth when you pass from this realm -----I have made ny choice

Thanks be to God for sending His only Son to shed His Precious Blood to die on the Cross so all could be reunited back to Him as it was meant to be in the beginning -before we humans screwed the system ------
 
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